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Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

ptif219 said:
When they force it on 5 year old children. I have a gay family member. The point is she doesn't talk about it and we do not discuss it. We also accept her partner at family functions.

If gays would just live their lives and stop making demands no one would care. The point is you are trying to force society to accept gays as normal when most of the country does not see gay that way.
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How are they forcing it on 5 year olds? Sex of any kind with a 5 year old is illegal, and there are plenty(most?) of hetero pedophiles, so I don't think you are talking about that. Explaining to 5 year olds a bit about gays so they understand the "two mommies" or "two daddies" bit? I can't see the harm in that, and can see the positives.
 
Redress said:
Being gay is, if not normal, not particularly exceptional. Lots of people are gay, somewhere in the 5 % to 10 % range. They are less exceptional than, for example, redheads.

It is ok to be gay. You may not like it, but who really cares what you like. There is nothing wrong with being gay, gay people are harming no one.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
 
gays who mind their own business aren't harming anyone, in my opinion

but mr jennings sure is

he's hurting obama

with his fist
 
ptif219 said:
You have proof for those statements?
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1. I can only speak from my own experience, and that of my mates, but I was not the only one who had full sex when I was 13. So teens have a lot more sex than you think.

2. You simply cannot 'turn' someone gay by giving them gay books to read. You get turned on by chicks, and there's nothing you can do about that. You do not get turned on by guys unless you are gay, and you cannot choose who turns you on. Sure someone can mess with you when you are a kid - been there, but it didn't turn me gay. You are gay or you are not, and if you're not, nothing will make you want to bonk another guy, no matter how horny you are.

It's just common sense - what sort of proof do you want?
 
Redress said:
Being gay is, if not normal, not particularly exceptional. Lots of people are gay, somewhere in the 5 % to 10 % range. They are less exceptional than, for example, redheads.

It is ok to be gay. You may not like it, but who really cares what you like. There is nothing wrong with being gay, gay people are harming no one.
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So that small of a minority should have this much power over our Children?


Fox News thinks Jennings is an issue.

FOXNews.com - Obama's Safe Schools Czar Tied to Lewd Readings for 7th Graders
 
ptif219 said:
Show where the article is false
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I have already pointed at a specific example and reminded you of this before when you simply ignored it. Instead of asking me to provide details because you were not aware of this, you accused me of denying facts. lol
Anybody can state something on a blog or in an article, this does not make it factual - you have the burden of proof.
To question the source is legitimate, specially when out of the ordinary claims are made in a condemning and inciting manner on a site which is known to be leaning in favour of the opinions expressed.

ptif219 said:
Read my links
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That's an unreasonable request.
If you are unable to specify what is "harmful" about being homosexual, point me to the relevant paragraphs in the texts you linked, at the very least point to the particular article, you have linked to quite a few in this thread.
ptif219 said:
Read my link it tells of diseases and depression this costs all taxpayers if they can not afford treatment.
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Oh, homosexuals are having diseases and depression, and taxpayers have to pay for it if they are uninsured and cannot afford treatment? Well yes, I am in favour of obligatory insurance as well....or what is your argument here?
That other people are not, or that they have different diseases, or are gays perhaps diseased longer or more often?
Does this apply to everybody who is homosexual or is this related to specific risk behaviours?
Have you ever considered that the "depression" could be a result of their sexual orientation frequently being called "unnatural" and their lifestyles condemned as "abomination" by the loving Christians in their neighbourhood?
 
Redress said:
The same can be said for any one who does anything the least bit risky. Why are you singling out gays?
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Because this what this thread is about. The gays agenda in our schools. I see nothing that these facts are being taught in the schools. Should students not also know the risks gays face?
 
Redress said:
How are they forcing it on 5 year olds? Sex of any kind with a 5 year old is illegal, and there are plenty(most?) of hetero pedophiles, so I don't think you are talking about that. Explaining to 5 year olds a bit about gays so they understand the "two mommies" or "two daddies" bit? I can't see the harm in that, and can see the positives.
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At 5 years old it should be a family matter there is plenty of basic education a 5 year old should be learning.
 
Redress said:
How are they forcing it on 5 year olds? Sex of any kind with a 5 year old is illegal, and there are plenty(most?) of hetero pedophiles, so I don't think you are talking about that. Explaining to 5 year olds a bit about gays so they understand the "two mommies" or "two daddies" bit? I can't see the harm in that, and can see the positives.
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Note how he avoids to specify what exactly is "being forced" on 5 year olds, the topic title is suggestive that it is "Child Porn", pedophilia has also been alluded to.

Children have learned that a man and a woman live together in a special, loving relationship by the age of 5 - their mommy and daddy, and their friends parents. Why would one expect or demand that gays keep their special bonding hidden, even within the family circle? Is showing affection "pornography", ptif?
 
ptif219 said:
Because this what this thread is about. The gays agenda in our schools. I see nothing that these facts are being taught in the schools. Should students not also know the risks gays face?
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a gay agenda? what about a straight agenda that dosent want kids knowing anything about gays?

kids are taught about std's in sex ed classes (at least here in Australia, i dont know about america) and they are taught that they apply no matter what form of sex you have, oral, anal or vaginal
 
ptif219 said:
Because this what this thread is about. The gays agenda in our schools. I see nothing that these facts are being taught in the schools. Should students not also know the risks gays face?
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You claimed the opposite earlier on, when you were outraged that safe sex is being taught to minors. lol

Make up your mind, it's either immoral to treat this subject in schools, OR it is negligent not to.
 
ptif219 said:
It is an excuse to indoctrinate kids in the homosexual agenda so society will accept their immoral lifestyle.
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What immoral lifestyle. I don't find it immoral at all. I imagine there's like...three people left in the world that actually take real exception to it as immoral. You being one of them.

I find your ignorance, obtuse demeanor, and all around denseness to be immoral. What now?
 
Redress said:
What is the homosexual agenda, and what part of it do you disagree with?
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I would love to know what this homosexual agenda is. I have been trying to get the memo for years since they failed to send me one in my welcome packet. I got my George Michael desk calendar, my Pottery Barn discount card, my free subscriptions to GQ and Details, my cd compilation of house and techno, and my membership certificate. But oddly, they never sent me a copy of the homosexual agenda. What kind of club is this?

Oh, and I guess they failed to send me my fisting kit, too.
 
jallman said:
I would love to know what this homosexual agenda is. I have been trying to get the memo for years since they failed to send me one in my welcome packet. I got my George Michael desk calendar, my Pottery Barn discount card, my free subscriptions to GQ and Details, my cd compilation of house and techno, and my membership certificate. But oddly, they never sent me a copy of the homosexual agenda. What kind of club is this?

Oh, and I guess they failed to send me my fisting kit, too.
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r38x6mHfnwU"]YouTube- Proof of the Gay Agenda![/ame]
 
roderic said:
I have already pointed at a specific example and reminded you of this before when you simply ignored it. Instead of asking me to provide details because you were not aware of this, you accused me of denying facts. lol
Anybody can state something on a blog or in an article, this does not make it factual - you have the burden of proof.
To question the source is legitimate, specially when out of the ordinary claims are made in a condemning and inciting manner on a site which is known to be leaning in favour of the opinions expressed.

That's an unreasonable request.
If you are unable to specify what is "harmful" about being homosexual, point me to the relevant paragraphs in the texts you linked, at the very least point to the particular article, you have linked to quite a few in this thread.
Oh, homosexuals are having diseases and depression, and taxpayers have to pay for it if they are uninsured and cannot afford treatment? Well yes, I am in favour of obligatory insurance as well....or what is your argument here?
That other people are not, or that they have different diseases, or are gays perhaps diseased longer or more often?
Does this apply to everybody who is homosexual or is this related to specific risk behaviours?
Have you ever considered that the "depression" could be a result of their sexual orientation frequently being called "unnatural" and their lifestyles condemned as "abomination" by the loving Christians in their neighbourhood?
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How about a psychologist?

Fernandina Beach, FL, News-Leader newspaper. The local news source for Amelia Island and Fernandina Beach, FL
 
roderic said:
You claimed the opposite earlier on, when you were outraged that safe sex is being taught to minors. lol

Make up your mind, it's either immoral to treat this subject in schools, OR it is negligent not to.
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Not safe sex explicit sexual language
 
jallman said:
I would love to know what this homosexual agenda is. I have been trying to get the memo for years since they failed to send me one in my welcome packet. I got my George Michael desk calendar, my Pottery Barn discount card, my free subscriptions to GQ and Details, my cd compilation of house and techno, and my membership certificate. But oddly, they never sent me a copy of the homosexual agenda. What kind of club is this?

Oh, and I guess they failed to send me my fisting kit, too.
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So are you saying there is no agenda? Then why all the noise from the gay community?


[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_agenda]Homosexual agenda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
jallman said:
Dumbass. Your own link says it was a phrase created by anti-homosexual groups and entered into discourse by them. Jesus Christ please try to read before you post more dumb ****.
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It is the truth. Are you saying homosexuals are not showing an agenda that they want to be seen as normal as the wiki article states?
 
ptif219 said:
He states fact that come from his profession. As usual you slam the source and avoid the facts of the article.
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What facts? It's an opinion piece. Did you not see the big bold letters that say OPINION at the top of the article? :doh
 
ptif219 said:
It is the truth. Are you saying homosexuals are not showing an agenda that they want to be seen as normal as the wiki article states?
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Nah, I'd say that you are extremely paranoid.
 
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