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Tajik rebels join al Qaeda - The Long War Journal

Members of a Tajik military unit that turned against the government a decade ago have have joined the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan and al Qaeda.

An unknown number of fighters who were loyal to rebel leader Mahmud Khudoyberdiyev joined the regional and global terror groups and have been fighting the Tajik government, the deputy chief of the Tajik National Security Committee said at a regional forum held earlier this month.
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If this is going to be a common occurrence, then our mission is in dire need of a new definition.
 
Neitzluber said:
New definition:

GTFO.
:2wave:

If we stay, we'll just lose.
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Ya just gotta love how a Libbo will stand behind you through thick and thin...waaaaaaaaay behind you.:rofl
 
apdst said:
Ya just gotta love how a Libbo will stand behind you through thick and thin...waaaaaaaaay behind you.:rofl
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or maybe he's saving American lives.

Why are we in the FATA adpst?
 
apdst said:
Or, maybe he has no clue about what he's saying? Leaving could cost more American lives than staying would.
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You have no proof. A.Q., ironically, no longer needs a base to attack you and your family.




To kill the enemy!
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:doh
If you put military troops in almost any part of the world someone is going to shoot at you.
 
Arch Enemy said:
You have no proof. A.Q., ironically, no longer needs a base to attack you and your family.
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That's not true. They have to have a base of operations to plan and train. It's Attack 101.
 
apdst said:
That's not true. They have to have a base of operations to plan and train. It's Attack 101.
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No. They have the internet. There's very little training in strapping yourself to a bomb and running into a market place.

The internet has become AQ's new training program. AQ is no longer a Franchise, as it was during Iraqi Campaign and the opening stages of Afghanistan Campaign, it's now a brand. We beat the AQ rampages in Iraq and now there are AQ establishments in Syria, Palestine, and Libya (others as well, I am just not willing to guess at this point) which have various degrees of measurement to AQ proper.

Syria is former Baathists mixed with former AQ in Iraq; funded (allegedly) by the Syrian gov't.

Libya: Very Non AQ like (new Islamic Jihad Code)
 
Arch Enemy said:
No. They have the internet. There's very little training in strapping yourself to a bomb and running into a market place.

The internet has become AQ's new training program. AQ is no longer a Franchise, as it was during Iraqi Campaign and the opening stages of Afghanistan Campaign, it's now a brand. We beat the AQ rampages in Iraq and now there are AQ establishments in Syria, Palestine, and Libya (others as well, I am just not willing to guess at this point) which have various degrees of measurement to AQ proper.

Syria is former Baathists mixed with former AQ in Iraq; funded (allegedly) by the Syrian gov't.

Libya: Very Non AQ like (new Islamic Jihad Code)
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Strapping a bomb to yourself isn't a tactic that is sustainable. AQ knows that. They also know they have to train in other tactics and they have to have a place to do that. It can't be done on the internet.
 
apdst said:
Strapping a bomb to yourself isn't a tactic that is sustainable. AQ knows that. They also know they have to train in other tactics and they have to have a place to do that. It can't be done on the internet.
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Good Morning Apdst,

It's not a tactic that's supposed to be sustainable, it's supposed to cause as much chaos and as cheaply as possible. It's a tactic to get the more powerful partys to punch holes in the wall. It's to escalate the violence... the more you react the more likely it is for them to use your own momentum to throw you off your feet.

As long as there are young people to see the holes you are punching in the walls, there will be young people willing to strap bombs to their chests.
 
Arch Enemy said:
Good Morning Apdst,

It's not a tactic that's supposed to be sustainable, it's supposed to cause as much chaos and as cheaply as possible. It's a tactic to get the more powerful partys to punch holes in the wall. It's to escalate the violence... the more you react the more likely it is for them to use your own momentum to throw you off your feet.

As long as there are young people to see the holes you are punching in the walls, there will be young people willing to strap bombs to their chests.
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It didn't work for the Japanese, it's not going to work AQ.
 
apdst said:
It didn't work for the Japanese, it's not going to work AQ.
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Two different enemies at two different times.

Not to mention

It took two nuclear weapons and Tokyo's firebombing to make the Japanese stop their hostilities toward the United States.

The Taliban has no transnational or large Imperialistic intention like the Japanese Empire did. The Taliban is not capable of creating any sort of Empire-- Just read their Foreign Policies, they had NO idea how to run Kabul, let alone Afghanistan. They were just the strongest tribe at the time.

To fully beat the AQ hierarchy we are going to have to cross into Western China (where I firmly believe Osama Bin Laden resides). Then we are going to have to figure out which AQ brand will cause problems (as Libyan AQ is actually anti-Bin Laden's AQ; Palestine's AQ is actually anti-Hizb'allah)

We're gonna have to find a way to deal with the Pakistan question and how to eradicate their Pro-Taliban ranking military...

This is just the beginning Adpst. I hope you realize what you are asking for the US Military.
 
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Arch Enemy said:
Two different enemies at two different times.

Not to mention

It took two nuclear weapons and Tokyo's firebombing to make the Japanese stop their hostilities toward the United States.
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It sure did, didn't it? There's a lesson to be learned from historical events.
 
Arch Enemy said:
It took two nuclear weapons and Tokyo's firebombing to make the Japanese stop their hostilities toward the United States.
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Uh not quite. It took the Emperor to end the war. If you read journals and post-war interviews with high to middle ranking officers in the Japanese military, the atomic weapons and firebombing were to them, devastating but hardly reasons to stop the war. In fact the Japanese high command was making plans to mitigate the damage of future atomic weapons and how to marshal whatever resources they had left to repel an invasion. Two nukes and firebombing didn't stop intentions, plans and use of resources in hostilities.

The Emperor was the key. The actual military really has no intention of stopping the war. And there was an attempted plan to stop the Emperor from broadcasting the surrender by members of the military.
 
apdst said:
Strapping a bomb to yourself isn't a tactic that is sustainable.
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Actually it is. When you have essentially an infinite pool of religiously indoctrinated fools willing to die and access to lots of explosives, suicide bombers ARE a sustainable method. If you use one bomber a day for ten years, that's a mere 3,650 suicide bombers. Not a problem when you look at the population of students in Pakistani Madrasses.
 
obvious Child said:
Actually it is. When you have essentially an infinite pool of religiously indoctrinated fools willing to die and access to lots of explosives, suicide bombers ARE a sustainable method. If you use one bomber a day for ten years, that's a mere 3,650 suicide bombers. Not a problem when you look at the population of students in Pakistani Madrasses.
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No, it's not. The investment of personel, vs. effect isn't balanced enough to make it a viable tactic. Like I said, it didn't work for the Japanese.
 
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