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The $100 Million Health Care Vote?

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ABC News' Jonathan Karl reports:

What does it take to get a wavering senator to vote for health care reform?

Here’s a case study.

On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”

The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.”

I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.

In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana. (This may also help explain why the bill is long.)

Senator Harry Reid, who drafted the bill, cannot pass it without the support of Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu.

How much does it cost? According to the Congressional Budget Office: $100 million.
The $100 Million Health Care Vote? - The Note

Shocking.
 
Got a source more reliable than a blog?
 
Got a source more reliable than a blog?

Le sigh...

I posted this in BN didn't I... Damn it... do not post after waking up Vic.

Mods, can you move this please.


Also, Redress, can you counter what the "blog" says or not?
 
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Moved to BN - Blogs. :)
 
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November 19, 2009 3:03 PM
ABC News' Jonathan Karl reports:

What does it take to get a wavering senator to vote for health care reform?
Here’s a case study.
On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”
The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.”
I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.
In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana. (This may also help explain why the bill is long.)
Senator Harry Reid, who drafted the bill, cannot pass it without the support of Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu.
How much does it cost? According to the Congressional Budget Office: $100 million.
This is what it costs and likely more to pass this POS. And with 34 hours to read it and 10 hours of debate on Saturday, we're getting quality **** to be sure. :roll:
 
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This is what it costs and likely more to pass this POS. And with 34 hours to read it and 10 hours of debate on Saturday, we're getting quality **** to be sure. :roll:

Typical. Does not surprise me.
 
I saw this on another board and thought I would share it.

"Apparently, we're going to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president that also hasn't read it, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, all to be financed by a country that's broke."
 
The scariest thing is that if the Congress and Obama manage to pass this massively unpopular piece of garbage.....violence may begin to ensue.

To abjectly force, with barely any real thought or debate, a socialized healthcare tax and program on Americans who clearly do not want this, let alone want to pay for this......

Forget the elections, some of these politicians are playing with their own lives. People aren't going to just sit around and take this forever. This is exactly the type of dismissive governmental action that led to the Declaration of Independence. The founders would puke if they saw what we're doing today.
 
saturday---supposedly---is the "big day" to see if reid can get 60 to the floor

that is, it's not that big a day

saturday we'll all learn if the party enjoys the 100% solidarity required simply to start the debate

that is, does he have the 60 he needs merely to get to the floor

that is, NOT passage

that is, he's not sure he can even begin

nelson, landrieu and lincoln are the 3

that is, even if he can get on the expensive carpet, he's FAR from passage

lieberman, bayh and pryor have all savaged the PO

stiff neck nelson will not allow the watering down of stupak

saturday---supposedly---is the big day

either the monstrosity dies then

or a little later

patience

that is, if reid proceeds on saturday like he says he will

how many deadlines has he missed
 
This bill does nothing to contain the spiraling costs of healthcare,but simply adds to that cost and shifts it from "rich" to "poor",and then ultimately to the healthcare providers.
 
This bill does nothing to contain the spiraling costs of healthcare,but simply adds to that cost and shifts it from "rich" to "poor",and then ultimately to the healthcare providers.

Of course not.

The 800-lb gorilla of Messiah Care isn't the costs.

It isn't the health.

It's the power the politicians gain by making a further 1/6 of the national economy dependent on them. When the government owns the hospitals, hospices, and clinics, when the government has absorbed the clerks now employed by the soon-to-be defunct insurance companies, they all get goonionized and SEIU's leadership is given stronger strings to pull.

Power to the people...

....who run the government and the goonions.

That's what the "healthcare" debate isn't debating at all.
 
Doesn't sound so crazy...

Norman Thomas said:
The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.
 
Let's see what did Obama say; President Obama's Pledge Never to Raise Taxes on Anyone Making Less Than $250000 a Year - Google Videos

And what is in the Reid version of Obama's I Don't Really Care Abut Your Health Plan?

1.40% excise tax on health coverage in excess of $8,500 (individuals) / $23,000 (families). Amounts are indexed for inflation by CPI-U + 1% – begins in 2013 – $149 B tax increase
2.Additional 0.5% Medicare (Hospital Insurance) tax on wages in excess of $200,000 ($250,000 for joint filers) – begins in 2013 – $54 B tax increase
3.Impose annual fee on manufacturers and importers of branded drugs – begins in 2010 – $22 B tax increase
4.Impose annual fee on manufacturers and importers of certain medical devices – begins in 2010 – $19 B tax increase
5.Impose annual fee on manufacturers and importers of health insurance plans – begins in 2010 – $60 B tax increase
6.Cut in half (to $500K) the amount of an executive’s compensation that a health plan can deduct from its corporate income taxes – begins in 2013 – $600 million tax increase
7.Impose 5% excise tax on cosmetic surgery and similar procedures – begins for surgery in 2010 – $6 B tax increase!
In total the bill would raise taxes by $370 B over ten years.

Gee this means Obama lied, so what's new.
 
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It took a "perfect storm" to empower the left of the Democratic Party. So many Democratic senators and congressmen seem like they're willing to fall on their swords in order to enact some form of the PO. Maybe that's because they know this moment will not happen again in their lifetimes.
 
The $100 Million Health Care Vote


ABC said:
What does it take to get a wavering senator to vote for health care reform?

Here’s a case study.

On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”

The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.” I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.

In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana. (This may also help explain why the bill is long.) Senator Harry Reid, who drafted the bill, cannot pass it without the support of Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu.

How much does it cost? According to the Congressional Budget Office: $100 million.

According to the article, this looks like a clear cut payoff (read: bribe) to gain Landrieu's key vote on the initial vote to pass the Senate health care debate. Something not contained in the ABC article is the FDA's sudden reversal on it's ban LA oysters, which is now set to be shelved for more "study".
 
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An update:

Landrieu defends state funding in health bill - Live Pulse - POLITICO.com

Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu defended a provision in the health bill that would send $300 million to her state, saying it was not the reason she will vote in favor of moving the bill forward. Insiders questioned whether the money was dropped in as a sweetener to win her vote.

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And, in typical Louisiana fashion, Landrieu corrected reports, based on a Congressional Budget Office estimate, that the provision would cost $100 million. In fact, she said, it will bring home Louisiana $300 million.

Great.
 
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