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Bush attempting to rewrite history of "disastrous presidency"

The thing that is most concerning (though not altogether surprising) is the idea that history is to remove the perceptions of the main actors altogether simply because they are perceived as biased. Of course they are biased: historians will be analyzing their actions and thoughts! Because George Bush is unpopular, he and his administration should not be allowed to give out their story? That would produce some of the weakest historical scholarship imaginable.

It's difficult to stress the level of idiocy of the original post.
It appears to me that the OP assumes there are too many historians who are stupid and will be duped into writing history books based on single biased sources. If our historians are that stupid, it wouldn't matter how many sources they had, since they'd be too incompetent to interpret anything.
 
It appears to me that the OP assumes there are too many historians who are stupid and will be duped into writing history books based on single biased sources. If our historians are that stupid, it wouldn't matter how many sources they had, since they'd be too incompetent to interpret anything.

Not sure if it's incompetence, or rather a concious method of educating generations in a very biased way. We see this with historical context in some history books where a point of view is conveyed with an interpretation that is designed to provide the student with a predetermined conclusion. Many argue that this bias is unconscious but I think it's just as many times premeditated. It's not just a political or ideological bias either - some are social biases, some are cultural, some are political and some are religious - it really ranges the entire spectrum.

Howard Zinn's Biased History
 
Interesting read.
 
History will be much kinder to GWB than the current liberal left.

This is why the liberal left is so up in arms about this -- they cringe at the thought of history seeing them as nothing more than the partisan detractors that they are.
 
Not sure if it's incompetence, or rather a concious method of educating generations in a very biased way. We see this with historical context in some history books where a point of view is conveyed with an interpretation that is designed to provide the student with a predetermined conclusion. Many argue that this bias is unconscious but I think it's just as many times premeditated. It's not just a political or ideological bias either - some are social biases, some are cultural, some are political and some are religious - it really ranges the entire spectrum.

Howard Zinn's Biased History

Oh Howard Zinn, how I dislike your dick waving.
 
One thing for sure until a week ago we were relatively safe from terrorists under Bush.

Oh My God! Did he just say the wacko Army Major wouldn't have gone all Islamo Terrorist if Bush were still President? No I'm saying that under Bush none did that is just a fact.

The fact that another terrorist attack hadn't happened (at least not on the scale of 9/11) under GW. Bush's watch in a post-9/11 era has more to do with the fact that our security agencies woke the f*** up and have remained vigilant. Even under President Obama, the CIA/FBI have halted a few terrorist plots. You're implying that radical Islam has become more emboden since Obama came into office. I wouldn't agree with that at all. Radial Islam is still trying to cause chaos on our shores and abroad, but I don't see another terrorist plot unfolding on U.S. soil anywhere near the scale of 9/11 again if at all...provided our national security agencies continue to keep their eyes and ears open and act on every lead no matter how outlandish it may seem to some. Except for this Ft. Hood shooting spree which was very unfortunate (and IMO very likely could have been avoided), I'd say they've done a good job.

Does it make him better or smarter than Obama? Hell no but the little mentally challenged downs syndrome 6 year boy old next door is. He just lacks Obama's education and line of Shiite and ability to lie convincingly. I will say that the way Obama is trying to kiss Muslim butt is inviting trouble. Then one day we can all set around and talk about how Obama's trying to rewrite to show he was not the stupid idiot amateur he's been up 'til now. But until it happens I'll just wait and see what does happen next on amateur hour.

Watch it now...your devil ears are showing. Better tuck them back in so we don't suspect you of being too bias or partisian.:roll:
 
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There is another way of looking at this, which is that he gets the opportunity to tell his side of the story, with all of the constraints and influences he had to consider. The fact that most of what gets told about his presidency is from the counter-propaganda perspective of those who oppose him ideologically and who try to discredit all that he did demands a biography from Bush's perspective. There are good reasons for the things he did that he is excoriated for.

This pre-emptive attack to discredit his history is just prepping the ideological battlefield.

Nah.. No one should judge Bush by opinions, they should judge him by actions and results.
Judging him by ideology should come third to those.
 
History will be much kinder to GWB than the current liberal left.

This is why the liberal left is so up in arms about this -- they cringe at the thought of history seeing them as nothing more than the partisan detractors that they are.

Dude, when will you realize that all politicians are crooks?
 
Not sure how that has anything to do with what I said.

You are still in the whole left-right spin circle, saying one side is better than the other. They are all crooks, no matter if they are left or right. There are exceptions on both sides.
 
You are still in the whole left-right spin circle, saying one side is better than the other.
My statement - a statement you have not actually addressed - made no such declaration
 
Oral history of Bush presidency planned - White House- msnbc.com

Really? Does that source help?

I suppose pathetic propaganda networks like Fox will just leave this story be in favour of showing a bunch of pro Republican party crap.

Again, their perspective is needed and should be encouraged. There will be legitimacy to their side of the story, but it will debated about how much legitimacy we will give them for generations. Only an idiot would discourage this.
 
Oral history of Bush presidency planned - White House- msnbc.com

Really? Does that source help?

I suppose pathetic propaganda networks like Fox will just leave this story be in favour of showing a bunch of pro Republican party crap.

It just says they're going to make a history.

It does NOT say they are going to revise history, as was the claim by Russia.com and the OP.

What evidence do you have that there will be any revisionism occurring at all?






In Soviet Russia - History writes you.
 
It's amazing how powerful the liberal movements propaganda machine worked for eight years. I rarely see anything written that has anything to actually do with Bush. WOW!! It is amazing how even those that are not liberal spout off the same propaganda.

I watch it happen in real time when I was forced to see what was driving a fellow where I worked crazy just after Bush got elected. Everyday he would rant, did you listen to air America or NPR today? After 2 months I finally did and I was amazed to here them promoting basic everyday occurrences in politics as things only done by Bush and his cronies. I calmed him down by showing him that they where lying to him, and that all politics works that way. But then came haliburton and he was gone beyond reasoning with any more.

It was a shocking experience to watch radio shows and TV shows spreading lies and hatred to such a degree just because of the close election with Gore. The lies and hatred were so strong that I watched republicans start to repeat the same propaganda. Or as I would like to say, "Their sniffing to many liberal cool-aid farts".

Bush did not care what People thought of him and thus never defended himself, that part made me very angry. But I guess he realized as I do that a mind full of hate and lies can not be reasoned with. He did give speeches of what he was up to, but they only got 5 minutes of discussion on CNN and 6 minutes on Fox. Not like the days worth when Obama speaks.

I hope he defends himself this time and brings to light all the history that was buried by Fox and CNN and others about the war in Iraq. I know they will make movies someday about this buried history, but for now it would be nice to debate this history in forums like this.

Bush was not the greatest of Presidents, but he was no where near the President promoted by the criminally insane on the left.

This IMHO as an independent thinker.
 
It's amazing how powerful the liberal movements propaganda machine worked for eight years. I rarely see anything written that has anything to actually do with Bush. WOW!! It is amazing how even those that are not liberal spout off the same propaganda.

I watch it happen in real time when I was forced to see what was driving a fellow where I worked crazy just after Bush got elected. Everyday he would rant, did you listen to air America or NPR today? After 2 months I finally did and I was amazed to here them promoting basic everyday occurrences in politics as things only done by Bush and his cronies. I calmed him down by showing him that they where lying to him, and that all politics works that way. But then came haliburton and he was gone beyond reasoning with any more.

It was a shocking experience to watch radio shows and TV shows spreading lies and hatred to such a degree just because of the close election with Gore. The lies and hatred were so strong that I watched republicans start to repeat the same propaganda. Or as I would like to say, "Their sniffing to many liberal cool-aid farts".

Bush did not care what People thought of him and thus never defended himself, that part made me very angry. But I guess he realized as I do that a mind full of hate and lies can not be reasoned with. He did give speeches of what he was up to, but they only got 5 minutes of discussion on CNN and 6 minutes on Fox. Not like the days worth when Obama speaks.

I hope he defends himself this time and brings to light all the history that was buried by Fox and CNN and others about the war in Iraq. I know they will make movies someday about this buried history, but for now it would be nice to debate this history in forums like this.

Bush was not the greatest of Presidents, but he was no where near the President promoted by the criminally insane on the left.

This IMHO as an independent thinker.

I can agree with most of this.

Do you remember how many books came out during Bush's presidency that either talked about his assassination as it might happen, or alluded to the assassination of the U.S. President? Like 3 or 4. Outrage? Only from some people on the right. How many do you think will come out during Obama's presidency? Not many. And if they do, can you IMAGINE the ****storm?
 
I can agree with most of this.

Do you remember how many books came out during Bush's presidency that either talked about his assassination as it might happen, or alluded to the assassination of the U.S. President? Like 3 or 4. Outrage? Only from some people on the right. How many do you think will come out during Obama's presidency? Not many. And if they do, can you IMAGINE the ****storm?


I personally was shocked to see to what level the hatred and lies were inflicted on Bush. Now as the truth is being told about Obama, those same people are filling the media with; "the right is just lying and hating".

What has happen during the last 8 years with the Liberals lying and hating as they did, it destroyed the main street media's trustworthiness. They allowed them to get away with their corrupt ways and only made them more corrupt.

But what bothered me even more, was watching the conservatives turn on Bush, when they couldn't resist "sniffing liberal cool-aid farts".
 
I guess it used to be "Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism" until the people that were using that line got the power back.


Go figure, human nature to throw a tantrum until we get what we want.
 
Anyone else see the humor in a Western European using a Russian site to talk trash about an American President?
 
Anyone else see the humor in a Western European using a Russian site to talk trash about an American President?

No, but I do see the humor of an idiot asking us to constantly see "the truth" when he has no conception of what truth is.
 
No, but I do see the humor of an idiot asking us to constantly see "the truth" when he has no conception of what truth is.

I think he's forgetting who his real opponents are and he's chasing phantoms.
 
It's the nature of conspiracy theorists.
 
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