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Where do people without health insurance live?

Its all about priorities.
If you choose cable TV and internet over health insurance, then you get what you deserve.

actually, they get what they don't deserve, free health care....
 
I know people, with children, who say that they cannot afford it, but they seem to live well and have all the modern conveniences.
Even their uninsured kids have cell phones !!!
anecdotal....
 
anecdotal....

in your world, perhaps....
The people I know who can afford insurance, but don't buy it, are relatives by blood or by marriage. One even quit a job that had benefits, to take a job that did not....then lost that job.
 
There's no such thing.

yeah, somebody has to pay for it, usually the taxpayer or those with insurance who end up paying high rates to help cover those who refuse to buy into the program...
 
yeah, somebody has to pay for it, usually the taxpayer or those with insurance who end up paying high rates to help cover those who refuse to buy into the program...

Why should you pay for something I don't use?
 
Why should you pay for something I don't use?
and I suppose you never will? good luck with that....
I thought I was very healthy until recently, paid into the system for years with little return on my investment.
Now that I have Parkinson's Disease, at least I can look forward to getting back far more than I paid in....:2wave:
 
and I suppose you never will? good luck with that....
I thought I was very healthy until recently, paid into the system for years with little return on my investment.
Now that I have Parkinson's Disease, at least I can look forward to getting back far more than I paid in....:2wave:

Is there a specific reason you aren't answering my question or was that a general dodge?
 
Is there a specific reason you aren't answering my question or was that a general dodge?

Do you just cling tenaciously to your bible, or do you read it and try to live by what Jesus said? :doh
 
Do you just cling tenaciously to your bible, or do you read it and try to live by what Jesus said? :doh

Ahh so you believe Jesus teaches you to force people to buy you things you don't use.

Can you quote a passage for that?
 
Is there a specific reason you aren't answering my question or was that a general dodge?

You had a question I didn't attempt to answer?

Was it "Why should others pay for what you don't use"?

We need a system of health care, it won't pay for itself. Just because you are not using it now doesn't mean you will never need it. Time comes that you need it, you will be grateful that it is there, regardless of who pays for it.

People who need the insurance, can afford it, and won't buy it, are a bigger part of the problem than most people realize...
 
Ahh so you believe Jesus teaches you to force people to buy you things you don't use.

Can you quote a passage for that?

Take out the word "force" and you will find the teachings....
not that WWJD has any real part in this discussion.
 
Do you just cling tenaciously to your bible, or do you read it and try to live by what Jesus said? :doh
Jesus would clearly want everyone to provide charity for those that need it.
Jesus would never advocate that people force others to provide for those that need it, as, in Christian terms, charity must be a voluntary choice for it to mean anything.
 
We typically pay our own bills with cash, is why.

We don't expect insurance to pay for a yearly physical any more than we expect GEICO to pay for our gas.

If we get a cold we take to MyQuil before heading off to work instead of taking a copy of Time with us to the ER.

Jerry...Words cannot express your wisdom and common sense.

You're a Super Hero or something...
 
You had a question I didn't attempt to answer?

Was it "Why should others pay for what you don't use"?

We need a system of health care, it won't pay for itself. Just because you are not using it now doesn't mean you will never need it. Time comes that you need it, you will be grateful that it is there, regardless of who pays for it.

People who need the insurance, can afford it, and won't buy it, are a bigger part of the problem than most people realize...

If I use it someday then I understand why you should have to pay for it someday, but if I'm not using it now why should you have to pay for it now?

The government allows pre-existing conditions, so if after I pay for a physical I find that I have Parkinson's and need public assistance, then I will need you to pay for something.

Until then, I'm not incurring a bill, so why should you pay anything?
 
If I use it someday then I understand why you should have to pay for it someday, but if I'm not using it now why should you have to pay for it now?

The government allows pre-existing conditions, so if after I pay for a physical I find that I have Parkinson's and need public assistance, then I will need you to pay for something.

Until then, I'm not incurring a bill, so why should you pay anything?

You aren't making much sense, but I suppose you get off on that....
Short answer is, I shouldn't have to pay anything for YOUR illnesses, or your insurance, but those who don't pay their own way take from the system without putting anything into it. If those people enjoy good health for their entire lives, good for them....but in reality, that is not typical. If you want to wait til you need heart surgery to buy insurance, good luck with that. No company will sign you up given today's system.
Insurance spreads the risk, sadly those of us who pay into the insurance pool are helping to support those who do not. Funny, it is the DEMS who want everyone to have insurance and help pay their own way, and the GOP that is fighting it. Guess on this issue, the DEMS are the conservatives, and the GOP are the idiots who want their children and grandchildren to pay later for the bills we incur today...
 
The White House just released this response to the thread:

This is where people without Government Health Insurance live.

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The White House just released this response to the thread:

This is where people without Government Health Insurance live.

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:rofl
When the little freaky dude in a body suit and Dr bizzaro face mask ties you up and oils you down, you're having a very bad day.
 
Ahh so you believe Jesus teaches you to force people to buy you things you don't use.

Can you quote a passage for that?

You didn't answer my question...;)
 
Take out the word "force" and you will find the teachings....
not that WWJD has any real part in this discussion.

WWJD has everything to do with Jerry's uncharitable response to your post stating that you now have Parkinson's disease. He didn't acknowledge, sympathize or appear to give a ****. :doh
 
You aren't making much sense, but I suppose you get off on that....
Short answer is, I shouldn't have to pay anything for YOUR illnesses, or your insurance, but those who don't pay their own way take from the system without putting anything into it. If those people enjoy good health for their entire lives, good for them....but in reality, that is not typical.

I'm not creating a bill at all, so why should you pay anything?

If you want to wait til you need heart surgery to buy insurance, good luck with that. No company will sign you up given today's system.

No that's a separate issue.

If Obama wants to mandate that everyone buy catastrophic medical insurance at least, the medical equivalent of basic liability for cars, I'm all for that. But what you don't see is anyone forcing the public to buy Municipal auto Insurance, single payer auto insurance laws, or forcing you to buy more coverage than you actually need.

Insurance spreads the risk, sadly those of us who pay into the insurance pool are helping to support those who do not.

I'm not incurring a bill for anyone to need to pay anything, though.

Funny, it is the DEMS who want everyone to have insurance and help pay their own way, and the GOP that is fighting it. Guess on this issue, the DEMS are the conservatives, and the GOP are the idiots who want their children and grandchildren to pay later for the bills we incur today...

No the Dems aren't going to be on any of the policies they are enacting, neither will the GOP.

One might tell both parties that since this legislation doesn't affect them in any way they need to butt-out.
 
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You didn't answer my question...;)

WWJD has everything to do with Jerry's uncharitable response to your post stating that you now have Parkinson's disease. He didn't acknowledge, sympathize or appear to give a ****. :doh

I guess I just don't understand what you're asking, what you're talking about, or how any WWJD reference relates to anything on this thread in any way :confused:

I don't understand the biblical reference in your question, to understand your question and then choose to not answer it.
 
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