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58% Say Next President Likely To Be Republican

The uninsured.

Wrong! If the uninsured actually paid for their own costs, we wouldn't have premiums being taken out of private to pay for them, we wouldn't have hospitals eating increasingly large amounts of costs!


Aww, look, another person who didn't bother to read his own article!

At stake is about $31 million in payments the hospitals argue they should have received for the years 1994 to 2000 and potentially millions more from later years, said Del Nord, a Medicaid compensation specialist in the Spokane office of Quality Reimbursement Services of Arcadia, Calif.

Do you really think $31 million will cause hospitals around the country to go bust?

Furthermore, all your article does is point out that Medicaid is slow on the reimbursement.

While about 700 working Hoosiers each week lose health insurance during the declining economy, local hospitals and doctors are left to figure out how they can continue to treat more and more uninsured....

And regardless of the number of uninsured patients doctors see in hospital emergency rooms, the majority of the uninsured's health care bills are never paid. Lipinski said the Sisters of Saint Francis are mission-driven hospitals and would continue to care for whomever walked in their doors.

More uninsured patients cause struggle for local hospitals

So much for your belief that the uninsured pay their way.

The remaining $14.5 billion in uncompensated care not paid by government sources.....

Uncompensated care is health care that is not fully paid for, either directly out of pocket
by individuals or by an insurance payer. Two different sources of data yield very similar
estimates of the amount of uncompensated care in 2008: $57.4 billion (from provider
and government program data) and $54.3 billion (from national household survey
data) leading to the conclusion that the total is most likely about $56 billion.
Hospitals, community providers, and physicians all provide care to the uninsured. While
physicians and community clinics see more uninsured patients, over 60% of
uncompensated care is generated in hospitals because medical needs requiring
hospitalization are the most expensive.

www.kff.org/uninsured/upload/7810.pdf

Guess who's paying for that? You and me. Well, me for sure. I don't know if you actually have a job and pay taxes.

That's ALOT Of money. Easily enough to kill hospitals.

Enlighten me with a link.

You need more then a link. You need a full on education.

No you did'nt....You distorted what I said.

Are you trying to pull a Apdst on me?

Let's see your quote again:

'I could go on and on but I'm sure you get what I'm saying.'

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ident-likely-republican-8.html#post1058355225

Tell me how that is different from:

'I could go on and on but I'm sure you get what I'm saying.'

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ident-likely-republican-8.html#post1058355236

Looks the same to me, but then again, I can read. I know for a fact a great many people here can't. The question now is if you are one of them.

Yeah your right....People arent falling dead in the street in the numbers advocates claim.

Well, at least not in ways that rile up the public. Now, infants being strangled to death by their cribs, that's enough to rile the public up...despite only 2 in a year with millions of the same cribs sold.

No,design jobs would have zero benefit to low income industrial workers.

You seem to be exceedingly unaware of how economics works in historical development. Perhaps we should not BE in certain low income manufacturing industries? The same way the Europeans abandoned textiles manufacturing after them good-for-nothin' Americans undercut them. Please look up comparative advantage before replying.

Do you think these "green" jobs would be any different?

Yes, because much of it would be installing stuff here. You can't outsource that well. Furthermore, much of that would be in design which America, at least right now, still does well. If we can figure out efficient batteries, that would create mountains of proverbial jobs.

I would love to see these statistics after Crap and Tax is passed.

That can be alleviated by simple slapping on pollution taxes to imports from polluting countries. In many ways, the market is perverted because costs that no one in particular bares, pollution is not included. A sizable amount of true cost is not in the price and that distorts prices. To create an actual level market, we'd need to enforce the introduction of costs that previously were not included.

Provide a link that directly disproves it.

Uh..do you even understand what opportunity cost is?

I find it amusing how you think you can talk about such subjects yet not even grasp the basics of them. perhaps that is why you labeled your self "very" Conservative?

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost]Opportunity cost - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Educate yourself.

Show me that the capital that was spent on Spain's Green infrastructure would have created the jobs allegedly lost in the study. I'd love to see someone prove that the jobs would have been created rather then the actual underlying concept that there was merely potential. You might just turn economics upside down if you could prove that.

I can see why you spend so little time in the Econ forum.
 
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And still no conservative could beat him. Does not speak very highly of conservatives does it?

How would you know? No conservatives ran against him.
 
Obama will be out of the running. Instead, the Democrats will run a Jewish lesbian and the Republicans will run a conservative Jewish lesbian who is staunchly pro-Israel, hard on crime and tough on terror. Republicans can always be counted on to brilliantly reach out to their natural base!
 
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He ran against weak kneed moderates.



They were the best the conservatives could come up with that had a chance in hell of winning.

Who else do you suggest run to represent the conservatives?

The Democrats also elected a moderate. Dennis Kucinich would have been the choice of the left.
 
True. Moderates cannot make decisions based on principles because they have none.

Puts you in a tough position since the moderates decide the elections, doesn't it?

I am sure that calling them unprincipled will win them over to your side though. ;)
 
I went back to the original OP and the link. This survey was strictly a survey of whether a Republican is "at least somewhat" likely. Or could be likely or not likely. It really isn't comparing the two parties at all.

Geez, you only got two parties. Its at LEAST SOMEWHAT LIKELY that either a Republican or Democrat will be elected as the next President.

Really, look at the link.

58% Say Next President Likely To Be Republican - Rasmussen Reports

Fifty-eight percent (58%) of likely voters say it is at least somewhat likely the next president of the United States will be a Republican

Come on. Thats a pretty Mickey Mouse poll. :2razz:
 
Come on. Thats a pretty Mickey Mouse poll. :2razz:

And you were expecting???? ;)

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Puts you in a tough position since the moderates decide the elections, doesn't it?
Psssst... they can elect anyone, they just need to be frightened enough. First pick an ill-defined scapegoat and stir up a hysterical moral panic around the group. Put up a charismatic man with a pure and righteous heart who is willing to do whatever it takes to stop the enemy. Hammer on the immediacy of the danger posed by the enemy. Accuse anyone who opposes you of being either in bed with the enemy or being too cowardly to take action. Current options for enemies: "terrorists," "pedophiles," and their alleged sympathizers (even better, maybe just say they're all basically one and the same, all manifestations of pure evil). Also handy as a pretext for rounding up political dissidents once you're in power.

Of course, if people are hungry, that will help things along...
 
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Psssst... they can elect anyone, they just need to be frightened enough. First pick an ill-defined scapegoat and stir up a hysterical moral panic around the group. Put up a charismatic man with a pure and righteous heart who is willing to do whatever it takes to stop the enemy. Hammer on the immediacy of the danger posed by the enemy. Accuse anyone who opposes you of being either in bed with the enemy or being too cowardly to take action. Current options for enemies: "terrorists," "pedophiles," and their alleged sympathizers (even better, maybe just say they're all basically one and the same, all manifestations of pure evil). Also handy as a pretext for rounding up political dissidents once you're in power.

You do have a way with people. Its hard to believe you have not been able to draw more people to your your party! ;)
 
You do have a way with people. Its hard to believe you have not been able to draw more people to your your party! ;)
Well as I'd noted in an edit:

Of course, if people are hungry, that will help things along...

That can actually be a BIG help. :mrgreen:
 
Well as I'd noted in an edit:

Of course, if people are hungry, that will help things along...

That can actually be a BIG help. :mrgreen:

From what I've seen we are the most obese country on the planet. When does the hunger come into play?
 
Puts you in a tough position since the moderates decide the elections, doesn't it?

I am sure that calling them unprincipled will win them over to your side though. ;)

They will have a moment of clarity eventually. It may or may not offset their long periods of insanity.
 
Of course the next US President is going to be a Republican...

And the Republicans will take control of Congress in the 2010 elections.
 
Of course the next US President is going to be a Republican...

And the Republicans will take control of Congress in the 2010 elections.

and then they'll do something stupid, or wrong, or unconstitutional and then the Dems will take over, and the cycle repeats itself until one day we wake up to an oligarchy that suspends elections indefinitely because "Hey, We're happy with the Benevolent Leaders."
 
and then they'll do something stupid, or wrong, or unconstitutional and then the Dems will take over, and the cycle repeats itself until one day we wake up to an oligarchy that suspends elections indefinitely because "Hey, We're happy with the Benevolent Leaders."

When we wake up, we're gonna be singing praises to Chairman Hu and glorious Wal-Mart.

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From what I've seen we are the most obese country on the planet. When does the hunger come into play?
For example, it could come into play next time there is an economic catastrophe on the level of the Great Depression. Picture all those lazy and obese people in a chaotic atmosphere with large-scale disruption of the production and distribution of food supplies. Most Americans are even less self-sufficient now than they were in the 1930s.
 
Puts you in a tough position since the moderates decide the elections, doesn't it?

I am sure that calling them unprincipled will win them over to your side though. ;)

Since when? There has not been a rlieable election since paper(evidence) went away back in the 60s.

ABC Posted Results One Day Before Election Twice

And another thing you do not want an unreliable fellow at your back. Not ever.
 
Catawba, I hate to say it (eh, It pains me to a little) but you should take your hippie ideology, go finish your guitar and let's just leave it at that.
 
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