misterman
DP Veteran
- Joined
- Nov 19, 2009
- Messages
- 12,913
- Reaction score
- 2,096
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char
Okay. So don't watch porn.
Why should anyone else care about your concerns?
What about adults?
Now you're regulating degradation?
There is plenty of criminality and sadism in video games and in movies and TV. Children see it alot.
But nobody wants kids to see Max Hardcore either. This is about adults. What about adults?
Ah. At least we're getting somewhere. Now you're censoring video games. What about mainstream movies? The Saw series for instance, where viewers are entertained by watching extreme, explicit torture? Want to ban those? I find them deplorable, sadistic, and degrading, and I think anyone who would watch them is pretty sick. What say you?
LOL.
I hope you end up getting your work banned someday, or prosecuted for obscenity or something like that. Would serve you right.
I am concerned with certain kinds of violence in video games, much as I am concerned with certain kinds of sex in pornography, but I am less concerned with violence in video games for two reasons: first, in most cases the pleasure associated with video games is less intense than that associated with sex, and second, there are much higher barriers to imitating the violent behavior depicted in video games than the sexual behavior depicted in pornography.
Okay. So don't watch porn.
Why should anyone else care about your concerns?
For the most part, I am satisfied simply with keeping criminally or sadistically violent video games out of the hands of children, much as I am satisfied in keeping most pornography out of the hands of children and would only wish to see a relatively small portion banned. I can only name one video game, off the top of my head, that I would have seen banned-- though I'm sure there were more.
What about adults?
It's worth reminding everyone here that it's not sex I have a problem with. It is degradation, and especially the association of degradation with sex.
Now you're regulating degradation?
Violence is something that adults should be acclimated to. My problem with video games is not violence, it is criminality and sadism.
There is plenty of criminality and sadism in video games and in movies and TV. Children see it alot.
It should be noted that I enjoy the Grand Theft Auto games, but I wouldn't allow children to play them.
But nobody wants kids to see Max Hardcore either. This is about adults. What about adults?
A game that depicted sadistic murder as the goal and rewarded players for inflicting additional suffering would cross the line from a game I'd see restricted to adults and a game that I would think should be banned.
Ah. At least we're getting somewhere. Now you're censoring video games. What about mainstream movies? The Saw series for instance, where viewers are entertained by watching extreme, explicit torture? Want to ban those? I find them deplorable, sadistic, and degrading, and I think anyone who would watch them is pretty sick. What say you?
As a designer of roleplaying games, sex and violence are recurring themes in my work-- but I am careful to depict degradation and sadism only in the background, and only as the behavior of the players' enemies. I generally only play with and design for adults, but if I were playing with children or designing a game intended for them, I would also be more careful in my depiction of criminality.
LOL.
I hope you end up getting your work banned someday, or prosecuted for obscenity or something like that. Would serve you right.