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Rush Was Punked: “Obama Thesis” Hoax

Good Lord.

Rush is an entertainer. He has an opinion show, not a news show. He got punked. He admitted he got punked. Yet the blind rage directed towards him is all out of proportion to common sense.

We hear blatant lies from the President's own mouth damn near every night. We hear the same from Congress and the House. Where is the outrage? Why no protestations against these elected liars? They have the ability to take money out of our pockets for whatever they wish to do with it. Rush just entertains people and has no ability to harm me or you. So why the outrage at him?
 
I disagree 1easy.

Spreading hate and lies IS certainly harmful.

But I do agree that there are liars in more powerful positions. That is just a given, however.
 
I'm sorry that you dont see the difference in standards between a netweork news service and a political entertainer.

Of course I see the difference, but you left out the part that I really object too, is his kind of entertainment has given permission for some people to be rude when disagreeing about political issues by saying this:

"That is how the ultra right wing does business and why I refuse to try to have a civil conversation with them about politics, because it is never civil."

I'm certainly not going to say the left is better, it's that when I disagree with a left winger, unless they are ultra PC, I don't experience them spitting venom.

The truth be told, I don't have much use for either extreme and believe, since the advent of talk radio and Internet extremism, that this country has become more divided then anytime I can think of in my 58 years on this planet. That includes during the Vietnam war where I could have a civil conversation with a republican or democratic hawk and we'd still remain friends, despite our differences. Now I have learned to keep my trap shut, till I can feel them out to see where they stand. If we are like minded, then we can probably talk, but even then I'm taking a chance.

One of things I love about this site is we can debate all we want, civility is a must. While it is not perfect, nevertheless there are limits to free speech when it is used to beat up the opposition through verbal intimidation and lack of respect, then it is no longer free speech, it is censorship by mob rule.

Rush sets the example, the rest follow.

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I just find it funny that after he found out it was a hoax, he tried to justify his seething rage by indicating that "there is a kernel of truth" behind it.

Perhaps there is, I am just amazed that Rush has a following at this point. The staunchest right-wingers I know in real life even think he's a buffoon.

And despite the fact that he isn't a "real" newsman, many people take him as such. Same with the talking heads on TV, if it's on a news channel, and politics are involved, some will always equate commentary with "news".

obama's the one who takes rush so seriously, deadly seriously

obama feels the same about fox, self evidently

presidents probably shouldn't lower themselves to debating those they've determined are "bufoons," as you put it

especially when the nation is undergoing such turmoil on so many different fronts

oh well
 
Remember a few weeks ago, the MSM using a fake quote or two to label Rush a Racist?

What do you think he did with this when he learned it was a fake?
 
obama's the one who takes rush so seriously, deadly seriously

obama feels the same about fox, self evidently

presidents probably shouldn't lower themselves to debating those they've determined are "bufoons," as you put it

especially when the nation is undergoing such turmoil on so many different fronts

oh well

Prof, let me ask you this.

Do you this the Rush ditto heads take his entertaining rants as gospel or at least in a serious manner?
 
Prof, let me ask you this.

Do you this the Rush ditto heads take his entertaining rants as gospel or at least in a serious manner?
ah....his rants aren't entertaining, they're annnoying. ;-)
 
It is what one would expect of a blow hard high school graduate challenging a constitutional scholar. More humiliation for El Rushbo! First the NFL telling him to take his money and go home, and now this!

"Limbaugh graduated from Cape Central High School, in 1969. His father and mother wanted him to attend college, so he enrolled at Southeast Missouri State University. He dropped out after two semesters and one summer; according to his mother, "he flunked everything", even a modern ballroom dancing class."
Rush Limbaugh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I disagree 1easy.

Spreading hate and lies IS certainly harmful.

But I do agree that there are liars in more powerful positions. That is just a given, however.

In that case we can expect to see you seriously criticizing Obama on nearly a daily basis. He has been lying to us from day one of his campaign, not just about what he believes and does but about others as well. He has damaged racial relations with his position on the professor/cop situation, he has tried to divide the country along racial lines, ideological lines, regional lines and financial lines.

There is nobody with a bigger bully pulpit audience than Obama, yet everyone is pointing fingers at Rush. Sounds like some people need to get a sense of perspective.

(This is a reply to Dr Gonzo but is not aimed at him personally. I have no beef with Dr Gonzo. :))
 
I am not obsessed with Rush.

I am more concerned about lies from the PotUS. And if you continue to debate with me, you'll see that even though I don't think Obama is any worse than any other PotUS of recent times, I will call him out when I disagree.

I am not a knee-jerk kind of guy, and the whole idea that the President is so concerned about Rush, Fox News, etc., just validates their twisted ideology, imo.

So, I think Obama should drop it, and just realize that as long as there is a love affair between he and the MSM, there will undoubtedly be some who take an extremely adversarial stance against him.
 
I am not obsessed with Rush.

I am more concerned about lies from the PotUS. And if you continue to debate with me, you'll see that even though I don't think Obama is any worse than any other PotUS of recent times, I will call him out when I disagree.

I am not a knee-jerk kind of guy, and the whole idea that the President is so concerned about Rush, Fox News, etc., just validates their twisted ideology, imo.

So, I think Obama should drop it, and just realize that as long as there is a love affair between he and the MSM, there will undoubtedly be some who take an extremely adversarial stance against him.

I agree that Obama and team should have just let this go, and not said a damn word.
 
But I saw the footage. I think many of these people who follow Rush in a blinded manner are not savvy enough to tell the difference.

I gotta agree and reminds me of people who think Colbert is like some kind of Dan Rather or something. :rofl
 
Good Lord.

Rush is an entertainer. He has an opinion show, not a news show. He got punked. He admitted he got punked. Yet the blind rage directed towards him is all out of proportion to common sense.

We hear blatant lies from the President's own mouth damn near every night. We hear the same from Congress and the House. Where is the outrage? Why no protestations against these elected liars? They have the ability to take money out of our pockets for whatever they wish to do with it. Rush just entertains people and has no ability to harm me or you. So why the outrage at him?

Were you this angry when Bush was commiting crimes in the name of our good Country?

Also for you to say that Rush has no ability harm? Not true. That crap about sticks and stones is so untrue. Ever heard the phrase word is bond? What do you think the saying a man is only as good as his word means? Nothing? Words can and do cause many harms.

Take Religion. But that is a whole other topic:shock:
 
In that case we can expect to see you seriously criticizing Obama on nearly a daily basis. He has been lying to us from day one of his campaign, not just about what he believes and does but about others as well. He has damaged racial relations with his position on the professor/cop situation, he has tried to divide the country along racial lines, ideological lines, regional lines and financial lines.

There is nobody with a bigger bully pulpit audience than Obama, yet everyone is pointing fingers at Rush. Sounds like some people need to get a sense of perspective.

(This is a reply to Dr Gonzo but is not aimed at him personally. I have no beef with Dr Gonzo. :))


Please show me proof that Obama has tried to divide the country along racial lines. If the cop/professor thing is all ya got? Do not even bother replying cause that was worked out.
 
Were you this angry when Bush was commiting crimes in the name of our good Country?

Also for you to say that Rush has no ability harm? Not true. That crap about sticks and stones is so untrue. Ever heard the phrase word is bond? What do you think the saying a man is only as good as his word means? Nothing? Words can and do cause many harms.

Take Religion. But that is a whole other topic:shock:
Why bring religion into this? Why bring Bush into this? Why not reply to the question that was posed, instead of ignoring it and posing your own as you drag Bush into yet another thread not...about....Bush? I mean beyond the obvious knee jerk to ideological reasons?

The harm boogie man Limbaugh can inflict on you, me or anyone else is infinitesimal compared to the harm the corrupt politicians running the whole Washington DC dog and pony show have over you, me and everyone else and can inflict. Where is the outrage? Oh yeah, directed at Fox News, Rush the left's favorite boogie man Limbaugh and let's not forget religion too.

Keep those boogie men close, they are much easier to discuss than that other stuff. :doh:doh

Please show me proof that Obama has tried to divide the country along racial lines. If the cop/professor thing is all ya got? Do not even bother replying cause that was worked out.
Oh here is a good case in point, please show us proof of the "crimes committed" by boogie man blah blah blah.
 
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Prof, let me ask you this.

Do you this the Rush ditto heads take his entertaining rants as gospel or at least in a serious manner?

hi

you'd have to ask them

i don't presume to speak for others

and i don't worry over irrelevent radio runts

obama himself, the president, has pretty much said he takes rush's rants seriously

obama i listen to
 
Please show me proof that Obama has tried to divide the country along racial lines. If the cop/professor thing is all ya got? Do not even bother replying cause that was worked out.

there's no proof

but jimmy carter, on obama's behalf, called the critics of the current occupant racists

and the present prez did not tell the peanut planter to shut up
 
hi

you'd have to ask them

i don't presume to speak for others

and i don't worry over irrelevent radio runts

obama himself, the president, has pretty much said he takes rush's rants seriously

obama i listen to

I believe Rush and his style of entertainment is harmful to this country, our way of life, individual freedom and thought, and even his followers because he is teaching them, by example, to be bullies which is divisive and alienates people, even those that would be swayed by their beliefs. They are their own worst enemies, they preach to their choir, but do not speak to the people except to lecture, like a control freak parent does with their adult Children.

I think that is what Obama is so upset about. Maybe he does have a point.

What I do know is I wish Rush and his ilk (there are plenty of them all over the airwaves, both left and right) would STFU and understand their style of politics is not inclusive but dividing this great country of ours in ways I have never seen in my 58 years on this planet.

We are no longer politically civil, we are political bullies and if we can't have it our way, then go jump off a cliff. One of the most egregious examples is the refusal of the anti abortionists to even consider working with the Choice people to help make abortion legal, safe and RARE. The legal and safe part they want to eliminate through unenforceable law which shows just how out of touch they really are and how anti individual they are. To make abortion rare will take a lot of effort by all sides. Law is not the answer, but law is what they want, the hell with common sense. Stupid, really stupid.

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I believe Rush and his style of entertainment is harmful to this country, our way of life, individual freedom and thought, and even his followers because he is teaching them, by example, to be bullies which is divisive and alienates people, even those that would be swayed by their beliefs. They are their own worst enemies, they preach to their choir, but do not speak to the people except to lecture, like a control freak parent does with their adult Children.

I think that is what Obama is so upset about. Maybe he does have a point.

What I do know is I wish Rush and his ilk (there are plenty of them all over the airwaves, both left and right) would STFU and understand their style of politics is not inclusive but dividing this great country of ours in ways I have never seen in my 58 years on this planet.

We are no longer politically civil, we are political bullies and if we can't have it our way, then go jump off a cliff. One of the most egregious examples is the refusal of the anti abortionists to even consider working with the Choice people to help make abortion legal, safe and RARE. The legal and safe part they want to eliminate through unenforceable law which shows just how out of touch they really are and how anti individual they are. To make abortion rare will take a lot of effort by all sides. Law is not the answer, but law is what they want, the hell with common sense. Stupid, really stupid.

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You ascribe powers to Limbaugh he does not have, that is of course IF you believe he has "followers" and is a teacher. Never mind that his listeners are already adult and that are (by demographics) well educated and upwardly mobile. Limbaugh though an entertainer, engages in what makes this country great; the open and free discourse of political ideas and commentary and the right to disagree and have free access to the same airwaves that make such possible.

It is not Limbaugh trying to silence his opposition, nor is it Limbaugh sitting in a job he sought out, knowing full well the level of scrutiny that said job entails, crying like some spoiled brat upset that someone dares engage in second amendment activity. That cry baby is Mr. Obama and his thin skinned administration. As history has proven, had one of the big three mainstream news sources been punked as Limbaugh was, it would be weeks and numerous investigations in the making, before a "sorta" admittance he was punked would be presented to the public. In this case, said admission of error was in the very same hour and same show said event occurred in.

Meanwhile the Obama administration continues to whine and try to cajole, bully and berate a news organization and any journalist who dare be critical of him and his administration, which is their actual JOB. And you say it is Limbaugh who is engaged in bullying? Right.:doh
 
You ascribe powers to Limbaugh he does not have, that is of course IF you believe he has "followers" and is a teacher. Never mind that his listeners are already adult and that are (by demographics) well educated and upwardly mobile. Limbaugh though an entertainer, engages in what makes this country great; the open and free discourse of political ideas and commentary and the right to disagree and have free access to the same airwaves that make such possible.

It is not Limbaugh trying to silence his opposition, nor is it Limbaugh sitting in a job he sought out, knowing full well the level of scrutiny that said job entails, crying like some spoiled brat upset that someone dares engage in second amendment activity. That cry baby is Mr. Obama and his thin skinned administration. As history has proven, had one of the big three mainstream news sources been punked as Limbaugh was, it would be weeks and numerous investigations in the making, before a "sorta" admittance he was punked would be presented to the public. In this case, said admission of error was in the very same hour and same show said event occurred in.

Meanwhile the Obama administration continues to whine and try to cajole, bully and berate a news organization and any journalist who dare be critical of him and his administration, which is their actual JOB. And you say it is Limbaugh who is engaged in bullying? Right.:doh

I see your argument as the complete opposite of mine.
I think his followers are like sheep, can not think for themselves and need to be constantly reminded of where they stand.

He is a bully, a cry baby, a divider and anti American.

I stand behind that 100% and I used to be a ditto head till I found out he was lying.

The problem with his ilk, and I pointed out that they exist on the left and right, is what percent is a lie, what percent is not-------------there is your problem and that is why I stopped listening to the talking heads. It was amazing when I threw out those people in my life is how much I realized I can think for myself.

That is freedom.

Rush is not.

Nor is his brand of entertainment, except by those that are easily led and an easy catch to be a lemming.

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I see your argument as the complete opposite of mine.
I think his followers are like sheep, can not think for themselves and need to be constantly reminded of where they stand.
Which of course you understand, is simply how you choose to see them. Of course you confirm my point stated earlier, that you choose to ascribe to them the status of followers. Meaning you willingly engage in ignorantly by any standard, stereotyping and generalizing millions of human beings. Clearly because you don't "like" Limbaugh and disagree with his political ideology. In short he is (insert allegation here) and by Gar you'll be the same in return. yay

He is a bully, a cry baby, a divider and anti American.
OK. He is a bully cry baby divider anti American that admitted he got taken in by a hoax. Within the very hour of citing the hoax, which is a new land speed record for a retraction in any medium. Also at the end of the day, so what?

I stand behind that 100% and I used to be a ditto head till I found out he was lying.
Ah I see, so in other words you were at one time a person who could not think for himself and needed to be constantly reminded where you stood. You see there is the problem, if this was the case with you, it is not necessarily so with everyone else.

The problem with his ilk, and I pointed out that they exist on the left and right, is what percent is a lie, what percent is not-------------there is your problem and that is why I stopped listening to the talking heads. It was amazing when I threw out those people in my life is how much I realized I can think for myself.
Fortunately I've always been able to think for myself and never invited people on the TV or radio into my life, as it were.

That is freedom.

Rush is not.

Nor is his brand of entertainment, except by those that are easily led and an easy catch to be a lemming.

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This is true, Rush is just a talk show host. While you might have been a lemming for Limbaugh at one time, you thankfully are not everyone. So the good news is that maybe rather than ignorantly stereotyping millions of people, you are simply guilty of transference.:(
 
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Which of course you understand, is simply how you choose to see them. Of course you confirm my point stated earlier, that you choose to ascribe to them the status of followers. Meaning you willingly engage in ignorantly by any standard, stereotyping and generalizing millions of human beings. Clearly because you don't "like" Limbaugh and disagree with his political ideology. In short he is (insert allegation here) and by Gar you'll be the same in return. yay

Yes I do generalize them, and anyone who follows talking heads as if it is truth. I don't listen because I don't need the constant reminding. Others listen because they do. How many times in how many ways do people need to be told the same crap? There were many reasons why I opt out, one of them was that, the other is because I didn't know what was truth or a lie. And lastly, because it just filled up my head with a lot of useless garbage and hate.

OK. He is a bully cry baby divider anti American that admitted he got taken in by a hoax. Within the very hour of citing the hoax, which is a new land speed record for a retraction in any medium. Also at the end of the day, so what?

Was his really a retraction? From what I understand, his retraction was augmented with excuses. I would give him credit if he made a heartfelt apology, but he did it talking head style.

Ah I see, so in other words you were at one time a person who could not think for himself and needed to be constantly reminded where you stood. You see there is the problem, if this was the case with you, it is not necessarily so with everyone else.

Not altogether correct. I thought what he was saying was making a lot of sense, but I felt uneasy because I felt something was not quite right. It did not take me long to figure out it was truth. Even if was only 5% lie, it still left doubt and that is one of the reasons I tuned out. He has a huge following that tune into his radio show as if it was a religion, those are the people I am talking about and yes, they are lemmings.

Fortunately I've always been able to think for myself and never invited people on the TV or radio into my life, as it were.

I call the TV a mental masturbation machine. I used to be a person that got home from work, watched TV till bed, then watched sports all weekend long. Till one day I realized I didn't have a life, that I was watching other people live theirs, even it was on a stupid game show. That is when I threw out the tube and today only use it to watch DVD's. I refuse to turn it on for breaking news, like 911 because it turns out to be a feeding frenzy if the issue is hot enough, with enough armchair quarterbacking to write a book with every page filled up with two words regurgitated over and over again, blah-blah.

This is true, Rush is just a talk show host. While you might have been a lemming for Limbaugh at one time, you thankfully are not everyone. So the good news is that maybe rather than ignorantly stereotyping millions of people, you are simply guilty of transference.:(

As I said above, I have stereotyped a millions of Americans, because that is what they are (see above), there are people who do question, who want different opinion and those have my respect. Thinking for oneself also means being able to look at all sides and coming to a decision.

I tuned out the talking heads because I simply can not trust them. It is not just subjective lies, it is blatant lies of which every talking head I have come across, from the left to the right, I have caught them at.

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Yes I do generalize them, and anyone who follows talking heads as if it is truth. I don't listen because I don't need the constant reminding. Others listen because they do. How many times in how many ways do people need to be told the same crap? There were many reasons why I opt out, one of them was that, the other is because I didn't know what was truth or a lie. And lastly, because it just filled up my head with a lot of useless garbage and hate.
That is the problem, I've never yet met anyone who "follows" a political radio talk show as if it were a religion. I just met thousands of people who try to paint people who listen to talk radio that way. They do so at pain of exposing their own ignorance and shortcomings IMO. Many people apply the same school of thought to political talk radio as they do news in general. Get it from a variety of sources and compare/contrast and reach your own conclusions. I know I certainly do and have for many many years. People get their "news" from "news" sources and in general get their opinion commentary from sources of the same. And once again, more bluntly, your personal issues and anecdotes are exactly that and not endemic of the millions of people who do listen to Limbaugh.

Was his really a retraction? From what I understand, his retraction was augmented with excuses. I would give him credit if he made a heartfelt apology, but he did it talking head style.
Retraction, admission, he stated that he had been taken in by a hoax. He offered up the comment that it "felt right" which is actually a dig at a famous comment Dan Rather made when he got caught doing all the things you say Limbaugh did. As to the fact that he did it "talking head" style, yeah no shizz eh? And of course...so what?


Not altogether correct. I thought what he was saying was making a lot of sense, but I felt uneasy because I felt something was not quite right. It did not take me long to figure out it was truth. Even if was only 5% lie, it still left doubt and that is one of the reasons I tuned out. He has a huge following that tune into his radio show as if it was a religion, those are the people I am talking about and yes, they are lemmings.
So everyone else listening, as you do, they are lemmings and you are not? Hey do let us know just how ignorant it is you are comfortable looking. Oh and yeah, I see you are back to that idiotic "followers of a religion" fluff. yawn

I call the TV a mental masturbation machine. I used to be a person that got home from work, watched TV till bed, then watched sports all weekend long. Till one day I realized I didn't have a life, that I was watching other people live theirs, even it was on a stupid game show. That is when I threw out the tube and today only use it to watch DVD's. I refuse to turn it on for breaking news, like 911 because it turns out to be a feeding frenzy if the issue is hot enough, with enough armchair quarterbacking to write a book with every page filled up with two words regurgitated over and over again, blah-blah.
I think I am starting to see a serious pattern here. Jeez guy, you really are serving as your own executioner aren't you?


As I said above, I have stereotyped a millions of Americans, because that is what they are (see above), there are people who do question, who want different opinion and those have my respect. Thinking for oneself also means being able to look at all sides and coming to a decision.

I tuned out the talking heads because I simply can not trust them. It is not just subjective lies, it is blatant lies of which every talking head I have come across, from the left to the right, I have caught them at.

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Well I guess you are to be applauded for learning to think for yourself, as oxymoronic as that is. You will still fare better in social situations and discourse if you also can learn to stop transposing your own personal issues and takes on things, as that of the rest of the world.
 
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