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Jimmy "Smeagol" Carter plays the worn race card

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Jimmy "Smeagol" Carter: opposition to Obama is racist

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Former president Jimmy Carter told NBC's Brian Williams in an interview Tuesday that he believes race is at the core of much of the opposition to President Obama.

"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African American," Carter said. "I live in the South, and I've seen the South come a long way, and I've seen the rest of the country that shared the South's attitude toward minority groups at that time, particularly African Americans"


Continued Carter, who is famously from Georgia: "And that racism inclination still exists. And I think it's bubbled up to the surface because of the belief among many white people, not just in the South but around the country, that African-Americans are not qualified to lead this great country. It's an abominable circumstance, and it grieves me and concerns me very deeply."
ARTICLE: Carter Cites 'Racism Inclination' in Animosity Toward Obama | 44 | washingtonpost.com

Question for the group: "If Jimmy carter got Alzheimer's, how could we tell? "
 
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I just lol'd my spleen to dust. Thank you!
 
Mmmmmyyyy preccciousss.
 
LBC is talking about this right now (Alot of Brits are phoning in crying racism lol) and James has raised a interesting and excellent point to slap them all back down

I'm sure there are some who dislike Obama because he is Black or non white but how can we be sure when criticism of the President is racism when it may be legitimate. Are Africans now only allowed to criticise Obama to escape the 'racist' tag? Where is the line between racially motivated criticism and valid ones?
 
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LBC is talking about this right now (Alot of Brits are phoning in crying racism lol) and James has raised a interesting and excellent point to slap them all back down

I'm sure there are some who dislike Obama because he is Black or non white but how can we be sure when criticism of the President is racism when it may be legitimate. Are Africans now only allowed to criticise Obama to escape the 'racist' tag? Where is the line between racially motivated criticism and valid ones?

Its the same for every political issue that involves a minority. For example, is calling on for tighter immigration and a tougher stance on illegals a racist viewpoint or a viewpoint one believes is for the well being of the state? It could be one or the other. But its wrong to label one person as a Xenephone for there views through an assumption, which i find to be an act of ignorance. Many Europhiles try and play the Xenephobe card on me, as hypocritical as that view is considering its coming from their mouths (dont worry i make sure they know it too), but my point is based on the fact that its for the wellbeing of the state. If you can proove everybody who is anti-socialized medicine are redneck confederate racists, then you have a point. Otherwise, you have no ground to say opposition is based on race. America is very capitalist and fears socialized medicine will increase debt and lower quality, and it doesnt want more inflation. These are of course all valid points though i do not neccessarily agree with their views in general.
 
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Although the comparison is pretty funny I think the daily show's comparison of McCain to Gollum was more on the target

about 1:50 in

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Are Africans now only allowed to criticise Obama to escape the 'racist' tag? Where is the line between racially motivated criticism and valid ones?

And that's a problem now...Now because a handful of over zealous fanatical PARANOID people, stereotypes spring up:

-everyone on the left will play the race card in this administration
-everyone on the right is a racist
-everyone on the right is NOT a racist
-NO ONE on the left is a racist

What a sweet time in our political history to be partisan to these ideologies. :roll:
 
Frankly, I hardly ever think about his race, unless one of his supporters brings it up.

I think most Americans are long past the point where race is a huge, daily, "front burner" issue.

Interestingly, I think light situation comedies on television had more to do with it than any education or indoctrination. It's hard to maintain strong prejudice against people who laugh at the same family issues, even those contrived for T.V., that you do.
 
As an aside, I wouldn't overstress the "Confederate" part of your description. Yes, overt racism in the South was much more pronounced when I was a boy there, and we were frequently reminded of it by commentators, particularly in the North.

Oddly though, when I got older and traveled, I found it with a different flavor, perhaps more bitter in the North; more bitter, because the practitioners were in an odd denial.

People who would admit to me that Blacks, Italians, or Irish, weren't "allowed" in one neighborhood or another, with an implied suggestion that they might be killed if they “trespassed,” still assured me that Racism was a wholly Southern condition.

“Beams and motes,” of course.
 
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As an aside, I wouldn't overstress the "Confederate" part of your description. Yes, overt racism in the South was much more pronounced when I was a boy there, and we were frequently reminded of it by commentators, particularly in the North.

Oddly though, when I got older and traveled, I found it with a different flavor, perhaps more bitter in the North; more bitter, because the practitioners were in an odd denial.

People who would admit to me that Blacks, Italians, or Irish, weren't "allowed" in one neighborhood or another, with an implied suggestion that they might be killed if they “trespassed,” still assured me that Racism was a wholly Southern condition.

“Beams and motes,” of course.

Why do they have a problem with Italians or Irish? I thought as long as they where white they didnt really care.
 
Why do they have a problem with Italians or Irish? I thought as long as they where white they didnt really care.

There has been a history of racism against both Italians and Irish in the USA.

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The whole racism card just pisses me off to no end. 99.9% of the time I see it used I see no basis what so ever. When you ask for proof of racism they will fail to produce any evidence.
 
Why do they have a problem with Italians or Irish? I thought as long as they where white they didnt really care.

My grandfather came over from Italy as a boy in 1910. His name was promptly changed from G'Vanni to John. The family settled in Brooklyn for years and picked up thick accents. Later, when my grandfather moved to Boston, he and his brothers had to hide their Italian Brooklyn accents.

When my mom was in high school, even though she was called a wop, she, like the other kids, walked on the other side of the hall when the only black girl in school was walking down the hall. Apparently Italians were scummy, but Blacks were scummier.

I have watched the people in my liberal town cheer on the election of the first black president, but I have yet to see them befriend any black people in this town. I guess it's great for DC, but not in their back yards.
 
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It's amazing how every time Carter opens his mouth I manage to lose even more respect for him.
 
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It's amazing how every time Carter opens his mouth I manage to lose even more respect for him.

He has never been able to see the forest for the trees.

The Ayotollah credits Carter in his memoirs for showing what a paper tiger America was during the iran hostage crisis. Even now carter hasnt clue one. It is completely beyond him and those like him that people want to be free of government in their business and do not want excessive taxes. He has to find some reason people do not want a giant government takeover after a horrid year of the same horrible procedures one after another. People are beginning to wake up and smell the lies for what they are and this entire episode is a JC pathology of narcissism and an inability to understand basic principles of the constitution.


Davy Crockett vs. Welfare
 
You know what? Carter is the Democrats' W. Who cares what he says?
 
You know what? Carter is the Democrats' W. Who cares what he says?

Evidently CNN. They wont STFU about him. I am at work and cant turn it off....Its getting annoying.
 
You know what? Carter is the Democrats' W. Who cares what he says?
Strange how they don't seem to do much to distance themselves from him like the GOP does with Dubya.

I blame Carter's irrational outbursts on senility. What was good as a criticism against Reagan ...
 
LBC is talking about this right now (Alot of Brits are phoning in crying racism lol) and James has raised a interesting and excellent point to slap them all back down

I'm sure there are some who dislike Obama because he is Black or non white but how can we be sure when criticism of the President is racism when it may be legitimate. Are Africans now only allowed to criticise Obama to escape the 'racist' tag? Where is the line between racially motivated criticism and valid ones?

The reason the Dems are screaming racism at every turn, is because it's all they have left. They know their short reign is over, almost before it even began. The country's first crack at Liberalism failed in less than a year. They're desperate. They'll say anything, at this point. The sad part, is that they can't realize that the more they cry racism, the deeper they dig their own graves.
 
Strange how they don't seem to do much to distance themselves from him like the GOP does with Dubya.

I think you assume if Bush came out tomorrow and said something just as incredible, the GOP would publicly scorn it right away.

There's a philosophy in rabid partisan politics in this culture....don't eat your own (yet).
 
I think you assume if Bush came out tomorrow and said something just as incredible, the GOP would publicly scorn it right away.

There's a philosophy in rabid partisan politics in this culture....don't eat your own (yet).
I'm saying that anyone running for office for the GOP has avoided Dubya like the plague. He's persona non grata in the GOP.
 
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Racism is still a pretty strong, if sublimated, current in American culture. I don't see Carter arguing that any criticism of Obama's policies is racist either. He says an "overwhelming portion" is motivated at least partially out of racist sentiment.

Hyper partisan strawmans for the win though.
 
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Racism is still a pretty strong, if sublimated, current in American culture. I don't see Carter arguing that any criticism of Obama's policies is racist either. He says an "overwhelming portion" is motivated at least partially out of racist sentiment.

Hyper partisan strawmans for the win though.

"overwhelming portion" is a vast overstatement.
 
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