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Wessexman said:
Depends on the context.
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No. It does not. And you know this. Please stop? You sound like your age now.

Nobody other then yourself wonders whether you're talking about 'murdering' or 'killing' somebody when you say you want to 'kill' or 'murder' somebody.
 
Hatuey said:
No. It does not. And you know this. Please stop? You sound like your age now.


Nobody other then yourself wonders whether you're talking about 'murdering' or 'killing' somebody when you say you want to 'kill' or 'murder' somebody.
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So you've never joked about such things, say if you're playing a computer game with a mate.

Anyway the point was in the context of this woman's actions. Her actions would have been murder, the use the term killing seemed to me an ambiguity and I read it part of an equivocation of her desired actions because she was "abused".
 
Hatuey said:
Do you know what equivocation means? You admitted that murder is killing.
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With all due respect, he said murder was killing but PREMEDITATED killing. You took his post out of context and failed to read the rest of it.

Killing is any type of act of, well, killing, whether accidental (I ran over the man while not thinking) or on purpose (I put poison in the mans water)

Murder is premeditated, Manslaughter is accidental. Murder=killing, manslaughter=killing, but Murder does not=manslaughter. Murder/Manslaughter are two types of killing.

http://www.answers.com/topic/murder
Murder said:
The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice
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http://www.answers.com/topic/manslaughter
Manslaughter said:
The unlawful killing of one human by another without express or implied intent to do injury
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In the legal world, somebody is not convicting of "killing". They are convicted of murder or manslaughter.


So in this case, it appears the killing was premeditated, therefore the act of killing was a murder.

It was a killing, but calling it a murder would be more specific and accurate.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I just got annoyed.


Back on topic, kudos to Glenn Beck for exposing this. He's been on a roll lately.
 
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Anyone believe that the subject of this thread was supposed to be the exposure of yet another ACORN operative who was a blatant criminal.

I wonder what went wrong :roll:
 
Apparently, the "murderess" is something of a kook and her ex-husbands are very much alive:

Blowback in the ACORN Wars - Political Punch

But when the Press-Enterprise newspaper caught up with ACORN employee Tresa Kaelke, she told the newspaper she was messing with the filmmakers and making it all up.

"They were clearly playing with me," she said "I decided to shock them as much as they were shocking me."

Reports the newspaper: "Since she claimed on the video to have killed her husband, two San Bernardino police homicide detectives interviewed her at the office Tuesday. Police said they have been in contact with Kaelke's former husbands and the homicide claims do not appear accurate.

"'At this point, we can't prove that there's anything to her statement,' said San Bernardino police Sgt. Dave Dillon. 'We can't show that ever happened.'

"One of her ex-husbands, Ronald Kaelke, 66, of Newberry Springs, said he was unaware of any investigation or that his ex-wife had made any claims of murder.

"The couple divorced in 1987, but attempted to reconcile and lived together from 2002 to 2005, Ronald Kaelke said in a telephone interview. In 2007, the couple traded allegations of domestic violence and received separate restraining orders against each other, he said.

"'As far as her murdering an ex-husband, that's news to me,' Ronald Kaelke said. 'She's definitely got problems and goes off the wall sometimes.'"

Other claims made by Tresa Kaelke did not square with the newspaper's reporting.
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Agent_Grey said:
What does she have to do with ACORN? Is it your suggestion that a majority of their memebers are simply immoral people? Why would they be uniquely slanted in that direction?
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Uh, she works for them? She made her statements while working for them? She made her statements while working for them, in their office?

I think the the people working for them are engaged in a criminal enterprise, based on the available evidence, a situation generally deemed to be immoral. Plus, they're detestable parasites, of course.
 
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