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Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

Tell me, why should a poor person vote for a party that constantly shifts tax burdens onto them and the Middle Class

And when did this happen?
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

Tell me, why should a poor person vote for a party that constantly shifts tax burdens onto them and the Middle Class, in order to practice the famously failing "Trickle-Down," economics?

Trickle-down economics did not survive all the way through Reagan's administration as a serious idea. Even most republicans admit(quietly) that it was a bad idea.

By the way, economics is not the only issues that republicans have. There are a fair number of republicans who are republicans over the abortion issue for example.
 
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This is just one crazy stupid old woman, she does not represent conservatives or republicans as a whole. Anyone could find 10 videos of liberals doing equally nasty things, same with conservatives. There is enough dirty laundry. I am against health care reform, but I hate neither Jews nor Israel. This is just some crazy old woman who wants her fifteen minutes of fame.

Don't think this bitter old hag is the mascot for the republican party.

And hardcore polarized conservative/ liberal talk show hosts are not the leaders of political parties either. The only people who are heavily influenced by political loud mouths are the people who do not bother to make their own decision, but simply goes with what their party tells them to do.
 
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This is just some crazy old woman who wants her fifteen minutes of fame.

Don't think this bitter old hag is the mascot for the republican party.

Unfortunately, she seems to be the norm, not the exception.

Thousands of disinformed nuts are showing up at these town hall meetings spouting views that they get from Fox News, right-wing radio, and even the mainstream right-wing websites.

Sorry but it looks like the right has jumped almost completely in the crazy pool.

If you don't want these people to be the norm, then you on the right need to distance yourselves loudly and clearly from them.

I know there are many smart, thoughtful conservatives out there.

Somehow you're going to have to take the reins back.
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

Good grief.

If you think those things are a "whole new level of crazy," then you've been ASLEEP during the last eight years, and you haven't poked around much on this board, either. Many, many, many examples of Lefties Gone Wild Caught on Tape of exactly the same type of crap.

Of course, you seem to think that any opposition to Leftie policy is a "lie" or a "deception," so that's not too surprising.

So, you do the typical right wing move and say "but they did it!" No move to condemn what is going on in your own party?
 
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Lets get real here. Both sides have nutjobs in their base, but its quite obvious that the Republicans right now have a significantly larger number of nutjobs in their base then the Democrats have in their base.

Being you are up there in NYC, I don't think you really have an accurate picture of how extreme many in the Republican base have become. Those New York Republicans, they are anomalies. They are not representative of typical Republican activists in the south and parts of the midwest. The birthers, the deathers, the fundimentalists, that's your party's base right now. So yeah, you can find plenty of examples of extremists in the Democratic base, the types that called Bush a war criminal and protest WTO meetings and the like, but it's not a majority of the Democratic base like the nutjobs are not a majority of the Republican base.

To get an accurate picture of what they base of the Republican Party looks like you need to get out of NYC and go to an Assemblies of God revival down in Tennessee or Arkansas. Talk to those people for a little while about current events. Get to know them, that is the party base. So don't get mad when someone points out the nutjobs in the party, its not like they put them there.

And I would argue that from your position, you don't see what the real left-wing of the democratic party is like. Come to bushwick or the UES sometime, or ****, just read the comments on the NYT website. I've seen more socialist (literally socialist) parades than I have regular parades in this city.

These are people who legitimately believe that the entire Bush administration should be hung for perpetrating 9/11 and for killing JFK Jr. They're ****ing nuts.

Ours certainly get more press though, I'll give you that.

So, you do the typical right wing move and say "but they did it!" No move to condemn what is going on in your own party?

Have you been asleep through this whole thread? Everyone coming on here has said the same thing: What this person did was terrible and wrong. It's a shame you can't understand that.
 
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You must not get out much because the south is largely the epicenter of the birthers and the epicenter of the deathers.

I live in the South and I haven't seen anymore of that here than anywhere else. Nice try as pigeon holeing Southerners, though.
 
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And the typical crowd that Obama attracts is the type of person who was out in the streets in 04 carrying a "Bush = Hitler" sign, and who is part of the Workers World Party.

See how easy it is to make stupid comments?

Yep. Just as idotic no matter which side is doing it.
 
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Please stop. I am a hardcore liberal, and even I don't think this is Rush's fault, or that namecalling is going to do anything but make our side look like assholes. If we leave the namecalling to the other side, we will look alot better, and be more persuasive in our arguments.

Agreed. "Rush blah blah...Palin blah blah..." just makes one look like they have no pertinent points to offer and are instead seeking refuge in hyper partisanship. And as a liberal who doesn't believe the answer to every issue is to try and hang it on Rush Limbaugh, I feel deeply embarrassed by the behaviour of such people.
 
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Agreed. "Rush blah blah...Palin blah blah..." just makes one look like they have no pertinent points to offer and are instead seeking refuge in hyper partisanship. And as a liberal who doesn't believe the answer to every issue is to try and hang it on Rush Limbaugh, I feel deeply embarrassed by the behaviour of such people.

Now don't get me wrong, there are times when it is appropriate to use Rush and Palin against righties. Usually when they have just mindlessly parroted a Rush or Palin talking point. This just is not one of those times.
 
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Now don't get me wrong, there are times when it is appropriate to use Rush and Palin against righties. Usually when they have just mindlessly parroted a Rush or Palin talking point. This just is not one of those times.

Yeah, if someone comes along saying "Palin/Rush said [insert controversial statement here that the poster hasn't researched but has just taken as gospel]! It must be true!", then yeah, I'll be right in there with you discussing my (over-whelming negative) opinions on both. This though, is just getting ridiculous, to the point of being tinfoil hat-ish; "Omg, I stubbed my toe! Palin plot!"
 
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Again, I am not going to say that those people are anything shy of assholes, but I think we need to keep in mind the concept of personal responsibility. Just because Rush compares liberals to nazi's does not some how make those who act on it less culpable. By focusing on Rush and crew, we are making it easy for conservatives to dismiss what we are saying, because people are responsible for their own actions.



Pelosi compared protesters to nazis. Why are you focusing on Rush's defense of these protesters as if that is where it started?
 
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I'm saying we are seeing crazy on a widescale level, not the random nut.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZxKO0ePNw"]YouTube - Protest Warrior Part 1[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xldzMVL6Iqk"]YouTube - Protest Warrior[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPsehkTZb8Y&feature=related"]YouTube - Debating a Moonbat at Protest Warrior Operation "Snow Melt"[/ame]


I can do this for days.


Millions marched in hundreds of war protests, with almost no incidents. And that was based on factual evidence that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11

Really? so no glass broken on stores? no highways blocked? etc... really? is this how you want to come across?


Then you use that same strawman the left came up with regarding 911 and iraq? please. :roll:


The stuff we are seeing now is largely based on disinformation and people who can't get over the election results.

This is dumb.


It's the kind of stuff we used to only see in Jerry Springer shows. It's a little scary that we have so many mentally unstable people that have fallen for all these conspiracy theories.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSpD_5kgi8A&feature=related"]YouTube - Moonbats Unhinged: When Liberals Attack[/ame]


indeed
 
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Now don't get me wrong, there are times when it is appropriate to use Rush and Palin against righties. Usually when they have just mindlessly parroted a Rush or Palin talking point. This just is not one of those times.




I have yet to see anyone on the left prove a "rush talking point"?
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

Pelosi compared protesters to nazis. Why are you focusing on Rush's defense of these protesters as if that is where it started?

Hey Rev, if you read what you quote, you won't make such silly mistakes. I said the protesters where at fault themselves. I am denying it is any one but their fault. Pay attention.

By the way, Pelosi said that there where swastika's at rallies, which in fact was true. Your need to make this about left wing politicians proves your overly partisan need to attack instead of debate.
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

I have yet to see anyone on the left prove a "rush talking point"?

I have yet to see any one on the right prove a Rush talking point either. What exactly is your point, except trying vainly to insult those who disagree with you?
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

Hey Rev, if you read what you quote, you won't make such silly mistakes. I said the protesters where at fault themselves. I am denying it is any one but their fault. Pay attention.

By the way, Pelosi said that there where swastika's at rallies, which in fact was true. Your need to make this about left wing politicians proves your overly partisan need to attack instead of debate.





She said they were "carrying swastikas" infering that nazis were on parade.


And no, the only visual of a swastika at the time was a swastika with a line through it. She was dishonest in her reccollection of said matter.
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

I have yet to see any one on the right prove a Rush talking point either. What exactly is your point, except trying vainly to insult those who disagree with you?




Please list "Rush Talking points"...... Are they anything like that "party of no" crap we hear daily? :lol:
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

She said they were "carrying swastikas" infering that nazis were on parade.


And no, the only visual of a swastika at the time was a swastika with a line through it. She was dishonest in her reccollection of said matter.

You are calling her dishonest for being correct, but missing a detail she may or may not have noticed, and yet are insisting she was "inferring" that protesters where nazi's, when you have to read into her words to get that?
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

Please list "Rush Talking points"...... Are they anything like that "party of no" crap we hear daily? :lol:

"Party of no" is a talking point, yes.
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

Talking point is a fancy term used by both sides for any particular complaint or comment about an issue or politician that is said by more than one person on a particular side.

Its obnoxious and both sides tend to use it more to not answer or comment on things more than anything else.

The funniest part of it is though recently is that the "That's just a Rush talking point" or "That's just a White House talking point" has in and of itself became a "talking point" to counter the "talking points" thus having people insult "talking points" through the use of "Talking Points".

I hate everyone
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

You are calling her dishonest for being correct, but missing a detail she may or may not have noticed, and yet are insisting she was "inferring" that protesters where nazi's, when you have to read into her words to get that?



From here. her inference is clear.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_h7iKQ3Xps"]YouTube - Nazi Pelosi claims Health Care Protesters are carrying SWASTIKAS to Town Hall meetings[/ame]
 
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I have seen the video, and I don't see the inference. Note I don't care for Pelosi and think she harms us liberals by being so polarizing, so I am not just defending her because she is a liberal. I have in fact attacked her at times over the whole CIA briefing thing.
 
Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

I have seen the video, and I don't see the inference. Note I don't care for Pelosi and think she harms us liberals by being so polarizing, so I am not just defending her because she is a liberal. I have in fact attacked her at times over the whole CIA briefing thing.




IF you listen to the way she says it, either on purpose or on accident, she makes it sound like the protesters are the nazis not that the protesters were calling liberals policies fascist.
 
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