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Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

So you admit she was "Wiggling" & pretty much admit she was "dodging" but you fail to offer a single motive for WHY she trying those deceptive acts.

Why do I have to offer a motive? You're the one claiming a "crime." The burden's on YOU, chief.


The most obvious (& really ONLY possible motive) was that she was attempting to hide her GOP affiliation, past or present.

Then 1) she didn't do a very good job of it, considering you have to be IN something in order to LEAVE it, and 2) we come back to the same thing yet again -- even if she was deceptive, there is no evidence she was a plant.

I understand that your totalitarian mindset assumes that anything less than 100% honesty is evidence of a crime (at least for your political opponents), but fortunately, that's not (yet) the prevailing view.



How about some honesty here, like Zyphlin exhibited from your side?

Please provide, in detail, my dishonesty. Or does "dishonesty" merely mean not agreeing with you? (I'll bet it does, in your mind.)
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

So you admit she was "Wiggling" & pretty much admit she was "dodging" but you fail to offer a single motive for WHY she trying those deceptive acts.
The most obvious (& really ONLY possible motive) was that she was attempting to hide her GOP affiliation, past or present.

How about some honesty here, like Zyphlin exhibited from your side?

I'm sorry devil, but when you're continuing to propogate and imply the "plant" thing and stating there's "proof" when there isn't none, you telling people to be honest is a bit disingenuous.

There's numerous motives for why she did it.

This happened after the "shouting" stories already started hitting the news. Perhaps she wished to not bring up her political persuation due to hopes of not putting the crowd/congressman on the immediete defensive based on preconcieved notions.

Its obvious she's very politically minded in general, even if not a member of the party. Perhaps she simply didn't want what she felt to be a legitimate question overlooked because of her party.

Perhaps she thought admitting she's a strong conservative would make the congress person immedietely defensive and slippery in prepping his response, trying to move past her quickly.

Perhaps she wanted to try and get a real reaction out of the person based on her question, and not based on her political ideology.

Perhaps she wanted she had aspirations to get some media attention and was hoping that a "mom" asking such a question would be more likely to get a reporter to talk to her than "A staunchly conservative mother".

Perhaps she didn't even think to disclose every little detail during the town hall question because, you know, most people don't. Then, when asked later by news she felt like "opps, maybe saying that will invalidate my good question" and didn't say it.

Perhaps she's was really, really upset with the Republican party when it prompted her to leave all her positions and thus in her mind what she said wasn't deceptive but flat out true.

Perhaps....

It goes on and on.

Only a hyper partisan person following zombie-like to democrat talking points and refusing to take the blinders off and see beyond their pin prick wide world view could state that being an "operative" or "plant" is the only or even the most likely reason for what she did.
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

I'm sorry devil, but when you're continuing to propogate and imply the "plant" thing and stating there's "proof" when there isn't none, you telling people to be honest is a bit disingenuous.

There's numerous motives for why she did it.

I will agree that what you say is not out of the realm of mathematical possibility but........The only "Court" that will ever hear this case (was she a GOP/HC industry "Plant") will be the court of public opinion which meets (most decisively) on election day.

I will be happy to wait for that "Court" decision which I predict will be yet another sound thrashing of the GOP at the polls.
 
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I will agree that what you say is not out of the realm of mathematical possibility but........The only "Court" that will ever hear this case (was she a GOP/HC industry "Plant") will be the court of public opinion which meets (most decisively) on election day.

I will be happy to wait for that "Court" decision which I predict will be yet another sound thrashing of the GOP at the polls.

This isn't a debate. this is you plugging your ears going lalalalala. I'm exiting this thread, or at least this discussion, because it'd be a stark violation of rule 6 to say what's on the tip of my tongue at this moment.
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

If you were directly asked about why you are there & failed to disclose your party affiliation ....of course I would consider you an operative.

The thing is that I am not currently active in the Democratic party. Like 90% of other Floridians, we are required to register in order to vote in Democratic primaries. I've voted for Dems, I've voted for Republicans, I've contributed to Democratic party campaigns.

But I certainly don't work for them, and I wouldn't be there representing anyone but me.

So, the assumption that I'm an "operative," just because I have been active in the Democratic party is simply false.

Just like, I suspect, it is for this chick.

Your thinking is quite simplistic on this subject.
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

So, the assumption that I'm an "operative," just because I have been active in the Democratic party is simply false.

Just like, I suspect, it is for this chick.

Your thinking is quite simplistic on this subject.


The assumption that she is (not was) a GOP opative is not because of her present or past affiliation with the GOP, it is entirely based on the fact that she lied about it. We've been through this a thousand times & no amount of torturing of the English language will change the obvious fact that she is a liar, trying (poorly I may add) to hide her real reason for being at the meeting spouting the GOP's talking points.
Many of you compatriots have had the honesty & maturity to admit that she was being dishonest. I hear no such honesty from you though. Why?
 
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The assumption that she is (not was) a GOP opative is not because of her present or past affiliation with the GOP, it is entirely based on the fact that she lied about it. We've been through this a thousand times & no amount of torturing of the English language will change the obvious fact that she is a liar, trying (poorly I may add) to hide her real reason for being at the meeting spouting the GOP's talking points.
Many of you compatriots have had the honesty & maturity to admit that she was being dishonest. I hear no such honesty from you though. Why?

What gets me is this underlying, unshakable, and thoroughly unsubstantiated assumption that -- apparently -- Republicans KNOW this bill is all milk and honey for the country and are opposing it simply because they want bad things. After all, you believe that anything good for the GOP is bad for the country and anything bad for the GOP is good for the country. Therefore, there can never be anything but a nefarious motivation behind what Republicans do. Ever.

Thus, there is no possibility of any reasonable discussion with you, because you are just plain off the reservation and into anti-Republican zombie land. And you can't reason with a zombie. You just try to keep it from eating your brain.
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

The assumption that she is (not was) a GOP opative is not because of her present or past affiliation with the GOP, it is entirely based on the fact that she lied about it.

Epic fail. YOUR CONTENTION is that she lied about it. But, based upon her statements, and the data provided, that can't be conclusively proven. She was a member, but many circumstances could have altered in the past year. She may have become alienated by the Republican Party and become libertarian. She may have dropped out.

Your logical position is flawed. You posit that because she was once a member, she must now be lying. But there are many alternative possibilities.

Haven't they taught you about the use of evidence in law school? Take a debate class, maybe it will help.
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

What gets me is this underlying, unshakable, and thoroughly unsubstantiated assumption that -- apparently -- Republicans KNOW this bill is all milk and honey for the country and are opposing it simply because they want bad things. After all, you believe that anything good for the GOP is bad for the country and anything bad for the GOP is good for the country. Therefore, there can never be anything but a nefarious motivation behind what Republicans do. Ever.

Thus, there is no possibility of any reasonable discussion with you, because you are just plain off the reservation and into anti-Republican zombie land. And you can't reason with a zombie. You just try to keep it from eating your brain.

Your opinion that I think all Republicans & Republican positions are nefarious is just flat wrong. We moderates don't see the world in the rigid black & white the you conservatives evidently do. We know there is good & bad in both parties & all Congressional bills. We have a much more open mind then you think.
I will admit that my preferred debate style is to deliberately overstate & sometimes to bait the other side into anger & mistake. This is a reasonable debate tactic & is often quite effective.

I enjoy our interplay but it is strictly up to you if you wish to stop or resort to name calling.

BTW...I enjoyed you eating the brain comment at the end!:lol:
 
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Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

Epic fail.
What a clever & mature exclamation! (those little 3rd grade outbursts just add so much to the discussion!);)


YOUR CONTENTION is that she lied about it. But, based upon her statements, and the data provided, that can't be conclusively proven. She was a member, but many circumstances could have altered in the past year. She may have become alienated by the Republican Party and become libertarian. She may have dropped out.
She may be an android
She may have been sleep walking.
She may have had temporary amnesia

But, chances are......she's just a plain old, garden variety liar, trying to hide the fact that she's a GOP operative.



Haven't they taught you about the use of evidence in law school?
Never went to law school
 
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Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

Wow, looks like you uncovered a top secret GOP conspiracy. Oooooohhhh!!!!! It's scary to have political operatives working around political events. Democrats never do that. Ooooohhh!!!!


:rofl

Nice to see some of you Brownshirts admit what's going on. Heil!!!
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

Nice to see some of you Brownshirts admit what's going on. Heil!!!
You wouldn't know a brownshirt if he kicked you in the ass. Sich Heil!!
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

You wouldn't know a brownshirt if he kicked you in the ass. Sich Heil!!



Ahh....It's Sieg Heil.:blowup: (you really should listen more carefully at all those meetings);)
 
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Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

Good lord.

You're saying:

1) Covert operatives deceive.

2) Therefore, everyone who deceives must be a covert operative.

:roll:

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No....I'm saying that since no other motives have even been claimed as to why she repeatedly lied.........
& the fact that she was there spouting GOP talking points.....

The most likely assumption (really the only one) is that she was attempting to cover up her GOP operative status.

I think if this case was presented to a jury, their unanimous decision would agree with me.
 
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Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

Nice to see some of you Brownshirts admit what's going on. Heil!!!





Really? REALLY?



Is this what you are reduced to? Sieg hailing other posters? Is this how you debate now?


First you post everything but facts, now you are sieg hailing people?



/facepalm
 
Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

It's something Liberals hate!!

Now you are making sweeping accussations. Bush never let unfriendly "folks" in to his talks, and once they were found, they were removed.
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

No....I'm saying that since no other motives have even been claimed as to why she repeatedly lied.........
& the fact that she was there spouting GOP talking points.....

The most likely assumption (really the only one) is that she was attempting to cover up her GOP operative status.

I think if this case was presented to a jury, their unanimous decision would agree with me.

Zyph already presented you with a LONG list of other possible motives, and no, I do not think a jury would agree with you. But you keep seein' only what you want to see.
 
Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

Your opinion that I think all Republicans & Republican positions are nefarious is just flat wrong. We moderates don't see the world in the rigid black & white the you conservatives evidently do. We know there is good & bad in both parties & all Congressional bills. We have a much more open mind then you think.

:rofl

RIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

Let's try to keep things simple here:

Good economic news is Good for our country but very bad for the GOP. (therefore they will keep praying for another depression)

Bad economic news (which kind stopped right after GW Bush left town) is BAD for our country but great for the GOP



Therefore ( end of the logical syllogism)

What's good for our country is bad for the GOP & what's good for the GOP is bad for our country.


I will admit that my preferred debate style is to deliberately overstate & sometimes to bait the other side into anger & mistake. This is a reasonable debate tactic & is often quite effective.

Me, I prefer stating what I actually think in reasonable, defensible terms; I dunno, call me crazy.

Besides, I have no reason at all to believe you. The only time you ever say anything like this is when the complete asininity of your posts is pointed out in terms you can't possibly wiggle away from. Then you say you're just kidding.
 
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Oh, and what's more, you say you're being deceptive in your posts, and you claim to be a Moderate. You're obviously trying to hide something. What kind of assumptions can we make about YOU, according to your standard? Hmmm. I think you're a Socialist Workers Party operative. What other motive could you possibly have? No jury would disagree with me.

:roll:
 
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