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House GOP is planning on releasing a health care bill tomorrow

Don't Tase Me Bro said:
I think this went straight over my head. I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. :confused:
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What I'm saying is human nature makes most people more positive towards an idea that actually helps them, either in an emotional or tangible way. That doesn't necessarily mean its right, nor invalidates their thought about it.

You tried to invalidate kori's statement by saying he may think differently when he's elderly and needing medical advise.

That is as logically irrelevant as it would be to discredit someone whose wealthy and says the top earners in the country shouldn't shoulder 90% of the tax burden by going "Well, you'd think differently if you were poor".

Just because someone may think differently and want differently in a different situation does not necessarily make their initial feelings/views wrong, nor does it disqualify them from making that determination.
 
Zyphlin said:
You tried to invalidate kori's statement by saying he may think differently when he's elderly and needing medical advise.
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Unless I misunderstood his statement, he was inferring that we shouldn't waste so much medical care on elderly people because they aren't contributing much to society at that point in life. Is that correct?
 
jackalope said:
The House GOP is planning on introducing a health care bill, but in the article summary, I don't see a mention of how to pay for the proposed provisions, other than general reform and cost cutting will pay for it?. I also don't see mention of it being submitted to CBO for a score.

I hope CBO will be scoring it, and to hear details about costs and paying for the bill.
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So did they ever release this bill?
 
WI Crippler said:
Reasonably, the GOP or Democrats shouldn't even be discussing healthcare reform, at all. ... Issues like malpractice laws, tort reform, subsidized programs for the poor, basic preventative care, regulation of the insurance industry, etc..... can ALL be handled by states.
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I really don't give a damn about States' rights and I don't think our nation would be better off with 50 different solutions to our healthcare problems-- especially since the insurance companies all operate in multiple States and would be more capable of manipulating State-level legislation in their favor. There is also the issue of simply withholding service to States that pass more stringent regulations, which is both a real possibility and a very effective bludgeon with which to press their agenda.

I am perfectly comfortable with this issue being addressed at the Federal level.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
I really don't give a damn about States' rights and I don't think our nation would be better off with 50 different solutions to our healthcare problems-- especially since the insurance companies all operate in multiple States and would be more capable of manipulating State-level legislation in their favor. There is also the issue of simply withholding service to States that pass more stringent regulations, which is both a real possibility and a very effective bludgeon with which to press their agenda.

I am perfectly comfortable with this issue being addressed at the Federal level.
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Well I am not. Different states have different population dynamics that requires specific planning on their part. What would work for New York, in regards to provided healthcare, might not work in Arizona and vice versa. You can see this with other federally operated programs like Medicare.

Insurance companies being forced to set up offices in each state, due to the varying amounts of regulation, keeps them from really gaining clout. Imagine if they only had to deal with one bueracracy in Washington, instead of 50?

Healthcare does not have to be provided on a national level. There are plenty of states that do offer affordable state plans, for poor people. Yet uninsured remain.
 
So, where are the grand Republican ideas that were supposed to be put on the table?
 
formerroadie said:
So, where are the grand Republican ideas that were supposed to be put on the table?
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They not released a non existing health care bill? I guess the UPS guy did not get the document from the Healthcare lobby to the RNC on time :)
 
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