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Conyers Sees No Point in Members Reading 1,000-Page Health Care Bill

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CNSNews.com - Conyers Sees No Point in Members Reading 1,000-Page Health Care Bill--Unless They Have 2 Lawyers to Interpret It for Them
During his speech at a National Press Club luncheon, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Democratic Congressman John Conyers (D-Mich.), questioned the point of lawmakers reading the health care bill.

“I love these members, they get up and say, ‘Read the bill,’” said Conyers.

“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”
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Who needs to look at details? It's health care reform....Dear Leader said it was....Dear Leader says we need this....Dear Leader has already blessed this.

How is this fitting behavior from a US Congressman? How can Congressmen promise what is and is not in the bill if they can't even read well enough to understand the bill?

Why are the Anti-Republicans electing illiterates who cannot even read legislation to high office?
 
Maybe he's criticizing the bill for being overly complex. Maybe he's saying it's pointless to read the bill when nobody can understand all the legal jargon in it. Just my impression.
 
Binary_Digit said:
Maybe he's criticizing the bill for being overly complex. Maybe he's saying it's pointless to read the bill when nobody can understand all the legal jargon in it. Just my impression.
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Why are the Anti-Republicans so eager to pass a bill into law that they freely admit they do not and cannot comprehend?

Why are the Anti-Republicans claiming to speak with authority about a bill of which they freely acknowledge to know nothing?

Why are their supporters encouraging them in this dereliction of their public duty and their Constitutional oath?
 
It seems to me they wish to pass this bill with no one getting a chance to oppose it. If they really didn't think anyone could understand it then they should have no problem letting anyone read it.
 
There is no point in reading the bill - it is too large and too complicated, just as Conyers stated. And that's exactly the problem. The legislature is falling victim to the bloat and inefficiency that every other corner of the government is

celticlord said:
Why are the Anti-Republicans so eager to pass a bill into law that they freely admit they do not and cannot comprehend?

Why are the Anti-Republicans claiming to speak with authority about a bill of which they freely acknowledge to know nothing?

Why are their supporters encouraging them in this dereliction of their public duty and their Constitutional oath?
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This is not a democrat or a republican problem. Attempting to paint it as such shows nothing except for your personal partisanship
 
Kernel Sanders said:
This is not a democrat or a republican problem. Attempting to paint it as such shows nothing except for your personal partisanship
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As applies to the quality of legislation broadly I quite agree.

As applies to HR3200 specifically, and to Conyers' comments, the promises and the advocacy are emanating from the Anti-Republicans. In other words, as regards the "reform" characteristics of HR3200, the Anti-Republicans are making claims they cannot possibly substantiate.

As regards HR3200, from what I have read, including the CBO analyses, the Republicans' attacks are more fact-based and more accurate than the Anti-Republican defenses.
 
Looks like underlings are learning the benefits of responsibility division.
 
Kernel Sanders said:
There is no point in reading the bill - it is too large and too complicated, just as Conyers stated. And that's exactly the problem. The legislature is falling victim to the bloat and inefficiency that every other corner of the government is



This is not a democrat or a republican problem. Attempting to paint it as such shows nothing except for your personal partisanship
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If they didn't want to read bloated and complicated bills then they should refuse to vote for any bill that is too bloated and too complicated for them to read.After all they should know what they are voting for. They should demand that their colleagues quit writing bloated and legalese bills. It is their job to read the bills and know exactly what they are voting for. Seeing how a lot of these men are college educated they should have no problem reading it.
 
celticlord said:
CNSNews.com - Conyers Sees No Point in Members Reading 1,000-Page Health Care Bill--Unless They Have 2 Lawyers to Interpret It for Them
Who needs to look at details? It's health care reform....Dear Leader said it was....Dear Leader says we need this....Dear Leader has already blessed this.

How is this fitting behavior from a US Congressman? How can Congressmen promise what is and is not in the bill if they can't even read well enough to understand the bill?

Why are the Anti-Republicans electing illiterates who cannot even read legislation to high office?
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It probably won't even apply to Congress, so he can't be bothered to read it.
 
jamesrage said:
If they didn't want to read bloated and complicated bills then they should refuse to vote for any bill that is too bloated and too complicated for them to read.After all they should know what they are voting for. They should demand that their colleagues quit writing bloated and legalese bills. It is their job to read the bills and know exactly what they are voting for. Seeing how a lot of these men are college educated they should have no problem reading it.
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It isn't two separate groups - one writing bloated bills and one voting on them. The members of congress are voting on bloated, unintelligible bills that they themselves wrote. It's the same problem that exists with earmarks - there is absolutely no incentive for congress to change its ways.
 
What his comment means is that the American people are finally getting annoyed at Congress now that they're Messiah anesthesia is wearing off.

Passing laws that nobody can read, that require a lawyer to interpret, and perhaps with luck a judge will agree to that, but laws that also threaten to nationalize the energy industry...with higher taxes, or the healthcare industry, with higher taxes, that are clearly intended to destroy the health care access most people already have....well, hell, why should Conyers read those bills? He's going to vote for them anyway, no matter how much damage they do.
 
Kernel Sanders said:
It isn't two separate groups - one writing bloated bills and one voting on them. The members of congress are voting on bloated, unintelligible bills that they themselves wrote. It's the same problem that exists with earmarks - there is absolutely no incentive for congress to change its ways.
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I never claimed they were two separate groups,which is why I used the term "colleagues".
 
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