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President Trump Says He’ll Sign Order Giving Dreamers a Path to U.S. Citizenship

trixare4kids said:
One would have to be naïve not to believe all presidential candidates and incumbents don't pander.
Trump's economy has helped minorities as well. They're not stupid, but they're also not dumb enough to keep voting for Democrats, especially lifelong Democrats, like do business as usual Biden. Promise them the world, and deliver nothing...
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The “Trump’s economy” you refer to was just riding Obama’s coattails. Obama was faced with a major crisis his first day in office but he worked to get us out of it.

Now that Trump is faced with a crisis many of his actions have only made things worse. Now he’s just washed his hands of the crisis. As a result the economy is in the toilet.


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George50 said:
On the other hand I would certainly believe a random writer who says he spoke to Administration sources before I would believe Trump. Unfortunately the odds are in my favor.
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Hopefully it wasn’t the same random source who confirmed that Bush isn’t voting for Trump, or the same random source that confirmed Kim Jung Un could likely be dead.

I wouldn’t go to Vegas if I were you
 
ReubenSherr said:
Back when he was a Democrat

This is one reason why he switched political parties, he’s now positioned against them.
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LOL! He only switched parties because he knows Democrats would be too smart to vote for him. Republicans were an easier mark.


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Court Jester said:
Maybe if dems cared about the children of these illegal aliens invaders stuck in a legal no man's land, they would have done something for them during the Obummer administration...

ya think?
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Obama did do something, or don't you know where DACA originated?
 
ReubenSherr said:
Hopefully it wasn’t the same random source who confirmed that Bush isn’t voting for Trump, or the same random source that confirmed Kim Jung Un could likely be dead.

I wouldn’t go to Vegas if I were you
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“The deal was done. DACA is going to be just fine. We’re putting it in. It's going to be just fine. And I am going to be, over the next few weeks, signing an immigration bill that a lot of people don't know about. You have breaking news, but I'm signing a big immigration bill," Trump told Díaz-Balart.

Is that an executive order?" the anchor asked.

"I'm going to do a big executive order. I have the power to do it as president and I'm going to make DACA a part of it," Trump responded. "But, we put it in, and we'll probably going to then be taking it out. We're working out the legal complexities right now, but I'm going to be signing a very major immigration bill as an executive order, which Supreme Court now, because of the DACA decision, has given me the power to do.”



“A very major immigration bill as an executive order”... looks like we have an ignorant, lazy, president who doesn’t even know the difference between a bill and an executive order.

As I said earlier Trump is confused. Or maybe you can explain how an executive order is a bill.

Per the cleanup crew:

The White House attempted to clarify Trump's remarks a short time after the interview aired, saying any immigration deal would not include amnesty.

“As the President announced today, he is working on an executive order to establish a merit-based immigration system to further protect U.S. workers," deputy press secretary Judd Deere said in a statement.

Trump says he'll sign order with 'road to citizenship' for DACA recipients | TheHill

Looks like Trump was confused again. Dementia? Ignorance? Too lazy to spend the time to even know what is going on?

Looks like I’m good to go to Vegas. I would be a big winner if I could only bet on whether or not Trump was stating facts or nonsense.


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George50 said:
LOL! He only switched parties because he knows Democrats would be too smart to vote for him. Republicans were an easier mark.
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard the word “Biden” and the word “smart” in the same sentence.

You do know he’s currently the Democratic candidate running for the U. S. Senate, that is, according to him.
 
Puigb said:
Trump is in a tough spot here. If he does sign it, he may peel off some hispanic support from Biden. However, he alienates the radical racists in his base, who will stay home or even vote third party. Either way he loses here, IMO.
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Anyone with a brain won’t buy this. Trump sees that he’s losing to a Biden by yugeee numbers. So what is his plan? Cynically paying lip-service in an attempt to court Hispanics that he’s abused his entire term. He has no intentions on keeping that promise and Hispanics aren’t going to switch from Biden, who is on their side, to Trump because Trump makes a hollow promise.
 
ReubenSherr said:
I don’t think I’ve ever heard the word “Biden” and the word “smart” in the same sentence.

You do know he’s currently the Democratic candidate running for the U. S. Senate, that is, according to him.
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Like the two hunters running from a bear, each hunter doesn’t have to be faster than the bear — just faster than the other hunter. Likewise, Biden doesn’t have to be a genius. He just has to be smarter than Trump, who is dumb as dirt and had to pay a smart kid to take the SATs for him.

Intellectually, Biden is miles beyond Trump who never read a book in his life.
 
George50 said:
The “Trump’s economy” you refer to was just riding Obama’s coattails. Obama was faced with a major crisis his first day in office but he worked to get us out of it.

Now that Trump is faced with a crisis many of his actions have only made things worse. Now he’s just washed his hands of the crisis. As a result the economy is in the toilet.


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Complete nonsense.
 
trixare4kids said:
Complete nonsense.
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Such convincing argument!

Trump had only one economic policy, the December 2017 tax cuts, that were supposed to increase business investment but ended up only increasing stock buybacks.

Trump promised 3, 4, 5 and 6% GDP growth after ridiculing Obama for never getting 3% annual GDP growth. Trump’s growth rate was no better than Obama’s and job growth was the same slope too.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Feelings about illegals. Not legal immigrants
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Well...not really.

“President Donald Trump came out Wednesday for a bill that would reduce legal immigration by one-half over the next decade.

Trump joined Republican Sens. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and David Perdue of Georgia to present a reworked version of the so-called RAISE Act, S. 354 (115), which the senators introduced in February. Like the original measure, the revised bill would, over 10 years, reduce legal immigration to roughly 500,000 annually, down from the current level of about 1 million.”

Of course it was DOA in Congress,

“But the Cotton-Perdue bill faces steep odds of becoming law, given likely opposition from Democrats and pro-immigration Republicans. In a written statement, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said that while "I've always supported merit-based immigration," the bill's halving of immigration "would be devastating to our state’s economy. "

Trump endorses bill to halve legal immigration - POLITICO


Actually it sounds as if the proposed EO as described by the White House cleanup crew is designed to curb LEGAL immigration. Now they are looking to do an EO to do part of what they couldn’t do earlier because it was DOA in Congress.


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JMR said:
Since you bring her up, Melania worked for a while on her first visa that did not provide that option. For others it would be called visa fraud. It is also questionable how her parents are now US citizens.
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she is overdue to explain that to us in the press conference tRump promised soon after he was elected
 
CaughtInThe said:
this President will say anything to save his own butt.
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there are two exceptions:

"i am sorry"; and

"i was wrong"
 
JMR said:
Follow along. One of your peers has stated that Trump can afford to lose his racist white voters. I wonder if that is true. Any thoughts on that?
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where else do they have to go?
not kanye

some may sit home, but i doubt this will cause him to miss many votes from the base

and given he lost the case to end ACA in june, i don't think it will result in many found votes from the hispanic and other minority communities
 
2distracted said:
He had a good deal for DACA a long time ago. The Dems rejected it. They're despicable...care only about politics
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notice the democrats were not the ones who seperated the kids from their parents and placed them in ill-equipped cages
 
Helix said:
I don't believe him.
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What's to believe? First, he can't write legislation, so don't know what "bill" he's pretending to write. Surely, the Congress hasn't put an immigration bill on his desk for signature. I don't think that could have been kept secret. And my big question is, if he wants to give DACA recipients a pathway to citizenship, why did he rescind the EO by Obama that was already in place? Sure, he wanted the legislature to deal with the issue--we all did. But they haven't, and Trump is partly to thank for that, refusing a deal without abolishing other immigration policies like "chain migration."

I don't think most of the people who object to this are "haters," I think they are afraid it will encourage more illegals to give it a shot sneaking over the border with the family in tow.
 
MaryP said:
What's to believe? First, he can't write legislation, so don't know what "bill" he's pretending to write. Surely, the Congress hasn't put an immigration bill on his desk for signature. I don't think that could have been kept secret. And my big question is, if he wants to give DACA recipients a pathway to citizenship, why did he rescind the EO by Obama that was already in place? Sure, he wanted the legislature to deal with the issue--we all did. But they haven't, and Trump is partly to thank for that, refusing a deal without abolishing other immigration policies like "chain migration."

I don't think most of the people who object to this are "haters," I think they are afraid it will encourage more illegals to give it a shot sneaking over the border with the family in tow.
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And once again, he's a hypocrite.

8 times Trump slammed '''chain migration''' before it apparently helped wife'''s parents become citizens - ABC News
 
George50 said:
As I said earlier Trump is confused. Or maybe you can explain how an executive order is a bill.
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I just can't believe this is the line of attack you all are planning against Trump...

Can you explain why Biden was looking forward to "Super Thursday?"

Can you explain how "Poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids?"

Can you explain why Biden told an audience, this year, that he was the Democratic Candidate for the U. S. Senate?

Can you explain Biden's frame of mind when stating that Obama was the first "clean" and "articulate" mainstream black American he's met?

Can you explain why Biden told people to keep their record players on every night?

Can you explain why Biden keeps confusing Trump with Obama, claiming that he was Trump's vice president?

Can you explain how Biden is a Democratic caucus?

Can you explain why Biden had trouble remembering the word "God"?

BTW is there a maximum number of characters we can use in one post? I need to ask a moderator...:lamo
 
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ReubenSherr said:
I just can't believe this is the line of attack you all are planning against Trump...

Can you explain why Biden was looking forward to "Super Thursday?"

Can you explain how "Poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids?"

Can you explain why Biden told an audience, this year, that he was the Democratic Candidate for the U. S. Senate?

Can you explain Biden's frame of mind when stating that Obama was the first "clean" and "articulate" mainstream black American he's met?

Can you explain why Biden told people to keep their record players on every night?

Can you explain why Biden keeps confusing Trump with Obama, claiming that he was Trump's vice president?

Can you explain how Biden is a Democratic caucus?

Can you explain why Biden had trouble remembering the word "God"?

BTW is there a maximum number of characters we can use in one post? I need to ask a moderator...:lamo
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I’ll grant you that Biden slips on a word or two from time to time. But I can guarantee that Biden knows the difference between a bill and an executive order. Obviously Trump does not.

No comment on Trump’s being against legal immigration?

Biden might slip on a word or two, but Trump holds the record for nonstop nonsense. Here’s an example:
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It’s good to know that Trump has solid plans for a second term.


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