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Trump blasted for ‘bringing us to the brink of a civil war’ with 4th of July speech: ‘Going full dic

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Lutherf said:
It's really rather remarkable the way the Democrats have managed to not only expose themselves as the party of "Donald Trump is the one that makes me beat my wife!" but they seem to be celebrating the idea that Donald Trump will make them beat everyone else's wife too.
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That's epic right there.
 
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Lutherf said:
Trump is bringing us to a civil war?

How is This Trump's fault? - Reward for info in shooting death of 8-year-old during violent night in Atlanta | News | cbs46.com


How is this Trump's fault? - 8-year-old child injured in Fourth of July shooting in Cleveland, police say - cleveland.com


How is this Trump's fault? - Fourth of July weekend gun violence in Chicago includes 17 killed, including 2 children, and dozens more wounded - Chicago Tribune


How is this Trump's fault? - NYC Shootings Doubled for Third Straight Week; Hundreds Injured in Gun Violence Spike – NBC New York


This **** isn't Trump's fault. It's the fault of delusional, hate filled communists who would rather destroy the nation because they didn't get their way in 2016 than do something positive. It's the result of 60 years of pointing fingers and lecturing about how bad everyone is. It's about a 60 year habit of putting on shows and standing in front of cameras instead of actually solving problems. It's about denial instead of commitment and it's about political power instead of people power.

Go ahead, vote Biden. Get rid of Trump. See if that fixes one damned thing. It won't and the reason it won't is because the assholes you follow around are more interested in PERPETUATING these problems than they are in fixing them because all their political power come from convincing their constituents that there is no hope but through the Democratic machine. It's the political Jesus movement except that God has been erased from the message and an image of whoever the political savior of the day is has been pasted in the blank spot.

Republican voters, most of them, made it a point to stop that crap in their party 4 years ago. Democrats, apparently, see that as a golden opportunity for them to double down on their delusion.
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But it's not "their delusion," And that's what makes it so amoral. Imho, they know full well what they are doing, particularly the old, established elitist Democrats. It's all about power, disgusting but true. Decent, ethical Democratic candidates didn't stand chance and still don't. You watch. Biden is trying every which way to fit Hillary into his Administration, preferably as vice president. He's just not comfortable with anything that doesn't spell the old school Democratic mantra of "do as I say, not as I do, plebeians - oops - I mean, Sweethearts." Then it's "Nancy, I made a gaffe. Can you fix it for me?? Thanks, Lovely, See you at the luncheon tomorrow!!" Thanks!!
 
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joko104 said:
No it's not. The MSM and the Democratic Party is openly promoting civil war within their own cities. Those are all Democrats rioting, looting, blocking highways etc.
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True. Rather inconvenient for the Democratic elite but sure looks that way. Thanks!!
 
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Helix said:
the good news is that most of the morons who want a civil war are out of shape old guys who wouldn't last two weeks camping out and shooting at people after their statins run out. then their phones would die and they couldn't get the fox or internet message boards open to brag about it. of course, they'd all still be spreading COVID, which would suck.
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True!

They would also not have many people to shoot at, because all the people that are actually afraid of them starting a civil war will be safely locked away in their grandmother's basement posting about kombucha recipies and waiting for their supper to be delivered.

Disappointing all around.
 
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ReubenSherr said:
Conservatives weren't tearing down statues, burning police cars, and smashing store windows

I have great respect for Obama, but he was the one changing America, economically, moving it far to the left - He wasn't declaring war on America by any means, but he inadvertedly starting a movement which is causing conservatives to react the way they are
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You didn't answer the question.

Which is all the answer it needs to be :)
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Did you really post a clip and transcript of one paragraph with twitter reactions and consider it serious commentary?
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So, you enjoy and approve of Trump's lying and divisiveness
 
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jet57 said:
So, you enjoy and approve of Trump's lying and divisiveness
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Frankly, way too busy to bother with it, and I don't consider twitter twits informative.
 
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noonereal said:
lol, what a dodge!

dude, i have no interest in this thread but your post was so juvenile I needed to take the time to laugh at it...
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Being honest here, it will not matter what Trump says, it will be painted as divisive. So there is zero point in answering the question presented, its loaded description doesn't allow for any response outside of Trump being divisive.

I have little interest in this thread but your post was so stupidly partisan that I decided you deserve a more nuanced response. Enjoy.
 
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Deuce said:
Didn't think so.
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Hey, I'll get serious as soon as you do.
 
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Jay Falcon said:
Obvious deflection is obvious.

The answer you were looking for is "no"
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Obvious deflection is openly laughing at brink of civil war drama idiocy.
 
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Deuce said:
You didn't answer the question.
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The answer is no.

Conservatives were not "declaring war on America" during the Obama administration

If Obama were president now, and conservatives were tearing down statues, burning police cars, and smashing store windows, then the answer would be yes, he would be completely justified in making the same speech Trump did.

Sorry, not sure what your point is...;)
 
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rocket88 said:
This civil war is what the right has wanted since 1865.
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Oh good grief.
 
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Lutherf said:
Trump is bringing us to a civil war?

How is This Trump's fault? - Reward for info in shooting death of 8-year-old during violent night in Atlanta | News | cbs46.com


How is this Trump's fault? - 8-year-old child injured in Fourth of July shooting in Cleveland, police say - cleveland.com


How is this Trump's fault? - Fourth of July weekend gun violence in Chicago includes 17 killed, including 2 children, and dozens more wounded - Chicago Tribune


How is this Trump's fault? - NYC Shootings Doubled for Third Straight Week; Hundreds Injured in Gun Violence Spike – NBC New York


This **** isn't Trump's fault. It's the fault of delusional, hate filled communists who would rather destroy the nation because they didn't get their way in 2016 than do something positive. It's the result of 60 years of pointing fingers and lecturing about how bad everyone is. It's about a 60 year habit of putting on shows and standing in front of cameras instead of actually solving problems. It's about denial instead of commitment and it's about political power instead of people power.

Go ahead, vote Biden. Get rid of Trump. See if that fixes one damned thing. It won't and the reason it won't is because the assholes you follow around are more interested in PERPETUATING these problems than they are in fixing them because all their political power come from convincing their constituents that there is no hope but through the Democratic machine. It's the political Jesus movement except that God has been erased from the message and an image of whoever the political savior of the day is has been pasted in the blank spot.

Republican voters, most of them, made it a point to stop that crap in their party 4 years ago. Democrats, apparently, see that as a golden opportunity for them to double down on their delusion.
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I rhink you're triggered. Your master will be pleased.

What has Trump done to fix any of this? Not a goddamned thing, his strategy is divide and conquer. And you cheer.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Frankly, way too busy to bother with it, and I don't consider twitter twits informative.
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So....don't trust the media. His own words mean nothing. Where, exactly, dk you get your information?
 
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Lutherf said:
Trump is bringing us to a civil war?

How is This Trump's fault? - Reward for info in shooting death of 8-year-old during violent night in Atlanta | News | cbs46.com


How is this Trump's fault? - 8-year-old child injured in Fourth of July shooting in Cleveland, police say - cleveland.com


How is this Trump's fault? - Fourth of July weekend gun violence in Chicago includes 17 killed, including 2 children, and dozens more wounded - Chicago Tribune


How is this Trump's fault? - NYC Shootings Doubled for Third Straight Week; Hundreds Injured in Gun Violence Spike – NBC New York


This **** isn't Trump's fault. It's the fault of delusional, hate filled communists who would rather destroy the nation because they didn't get their way in 2016 than do something positive. It's the result of 60 years of pointing fingers and lecturing about how bad everyone is. It's about a 60 year habit of putting on shows and standing in front of cameras instead of actually solving problems. It's about denial instead of commitment and it's about political power instead of people power.

Go ahead, vote Biden. Get rid of Trump. See if that fixes one damned thing. It won't and the reason it won't is because the assholes you follow around are more interested in PERPETUATING these problems than they are in fixing them because all their political power come from convincing their constituents that there is no hope but through the Democratic machine. It's the political Jesus movement except that God has been erased from the message and an image of whoever the political savior of the day is has been pasted in the blank spot.

Republican voters, most of them, made it a point to stop that crap in their party 4 years ago. Democrats, apparently, see that as a golden opportunity for them to double down on their delusion.
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So you shared a bunch of links about gun violence. You didnt think this through. Democrat's (of which im not) would be first to point out that gun violence is the fault of gun supporters.
 
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rocket88 said:
So....don't trust the media. His own words mean nothing. Where, exactly, dk you get your information?
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Twitter isn't the media. Twitter is people who have absolutely no responsibility for what they post there.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Did you really post a clip and transcript of one paragraph with twitter reactions and consider it serious commentary?
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Well the trick is to omit context and the media and the people that view the media the left mostly I think that everyone else is stupider than they are. you can tell by the way they like to say people are science deniers or they're hateful bigots or whatever.

But they underestimate their opponents at their own peril. Donald Trump has really been rather clever at manipulating the media if he says something that is controversial and it triggers the media, the media will repeat it and repeat it and repeat it and repeat it so that everyone on the planet gets to hear.

They think they're so much smarter than everybody else well screeching helplessly into the void and as they take blow after blow after blow.
 
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Deuce said:
Do you have serious commentary to add about Trump making divisive statements on the 4th of July?
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No. I don't care if he makes what you would consider a divisive statement.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Do you have serious commentary about the looting and anarchy?
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I see your lean is conservative. So FYI simply being conservative is divisive to these people. So if Trump makes what these people would consider a divisive statement then I support it. Because conservativism is divisive to these people.

I'm not trying to pick on you I'm just saying I think a mistake the right-wing makes is treating their opponents as if they are respectable.

They lied about a Supreme Court Justice to try and stop his nomination to the Supreme Court. They lied about Russia they lied about the Ukraine. These people are not respectable.

I hope everything Donald Trump says to this scum is divisive, that's why I voted for him. Because again being conservative is divisive.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Frankly, way too busy to bother with it, and I don't consider twitter twits informative.
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But you approve of Trump's lying and divisiveness right?
 
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jet57 said:
But you approve of Trump's lying and divisiveness right?
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How about posting the most divisive statement trump made then we can talk about whether there was any truth to it.
That's what matters, isn't it? The truth? Or facts?
Biden thinks it's a choice but I hope you don't.
 
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jet57 said:
But you approve of Trump's lying and divisiveness right?
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I don't accept your biased opinion of his words. Thanks for the false dichotomy, though.
 
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ReubenSherr said:
No, far-left Americans trying to bring socialism and anarchy to our country have declared war against Trump ;)

If the far left wants to eradicate our history and transform this country into something it's not, they are the ones starting a "civil war," and they will lose
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I thought we were bringing totalitarian communism?

Do try to stay consistent.

Anarchy and authoritarianism/totalitarianism/plutocracy are mutually exclusive. The former the literal opposite of all of the latter.

You do know that "anarchy" did not always mean "chaos". That is the result of propaganda by "archists" of various stripes.

How can you make enough profit to become the richest most powerful person in the world without the inherent coercion in capitalism?

They're down to just spitting words you react to in the hopes your emotions will override your critical thinking skills.

Which obviously works.
 
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Logophile said:
I disagree. I think the biggest problem with Obama was his lack of doing anything substantive other than Obamacare, which was oligarchic and hence, totalitarian in principle. If he had developed single payer, people would be much better taken care of today, and certainly more secure. But Obama as per most Democrat elitists liked to cozy up to Hollywood and CEO's, liked the big parties and didn't mind these expensive, protracted wars that Trump is trying to actually end. But Obama's liking CEO's is important because it translated into pandering to CEO's, hence Obamacare. I think Obama was a great orator. The fact that he was elected TWICE to the presidency is ample evidence that BLM spews a bunch of bull when it declares systemic racism in America. It wasn't ONLY black Americans that made up the majority that ensconced Obama into office for eight years. BLM is a a racist excuse for to blame others for lack of personal responsibility. I think America has done all it can do to alleviate the black poverty problem. It is now up to black Americans to make the difference in their families and upcoming generations, to teach them respect and kindness and pride within themselves, and so many have that it makes racism pretty much obsolete other than for the Democrats who desperately need that meme. Thanks!!
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Our legislators work for their donors.

Their donors like us poor. Less ability to effect change, being busy trying to keep a roof over our heads. Willingness to accept lower wages.

What's not to like.

But we don't really do anything about poverty regardless of the color of skin.

Easier to buy the narrative that it's all aboit choices, when its really about choices without resources. Rich people make the same exact mistakes. They just have the money to recover from them. They get a cushy rehab. Poor folks get prison and homelessness. The rich could always get safe abortions and always will.
 
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Paradoxical said:
See any conservatives burning and looting and taking over cities and tearing down statues.

OH wait. Wasn't there that "demonstration" in San Francisco that hardly anyone heard of where they were really raucous and had loudspeakers? OMG! I forgot about that. You're right, Duece. I am converting to Marxism. When is the next service?
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Conservatives do have the decency to do those things to others in other places through the government they purportedly despise.
 
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