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Trump calls Black Lives Matter a 'symbol of hate' as he digs in on race

MSgt said:
So, even with clear statistics provided for you, clearly proven to be a liar and purposefully obtuse, you still choose to shamelessly show the world that you are entirely worthless.

Don't you have any self-respect at all? Surely, the people around you see a much better person than what you present here.
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Anecdotal accounts comparing cities like Chicago and Detroit and other high crime areas to others that are predominantly low crime is a ruse. Thing is that known high crime danger areas have police on the alert and edgy. Your stats also don't show the color of the cop who does the shooting. Some of them are ALSO black and most probably are because blacks are heavy in the minority areas. But, you hold onto those false illusions of systemic racism if it makes you hate America more.
 
Schism said:
No, you will not twist my words. The media is trying to water down BLM's radical message. The violence is being shown to support the narrative of systemic racism among police officers nationwide.
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I'm not clear on what you are saying.

- I don't see "the media" watering down anything, though I don't watch opinionated news. I read.

- I know radical right-wing media sources (to include FOX News) is entirely focused on riots and statue desecration, while burying the message, thus belittling the message for its viewers who like to politicize everything.

- I see conservatives and liberals within the demonstrations. Even in my conservative stronghold in Highlands Ranch I see families on street corners doing their sign thing.

- I do not see how showing riots supports the narrative of systemic racism among the police. Off the top of my head, I recall the cop who shoved over the 75-year old man. Clearly, that was not about racism. But it was a clear example, as was the obnoxious police defensive response afterwards, of the unprofessional behavior within the police force that abets issues like systematic racism.
 
trixare4kids said:
Back in 2016, there was an online petition to designate BLM as a terrorist group. The petitition reached the amount of signatures needed for the WH to respond... Ironicially, President Obama said this about the group four years ago. Say what? He was clearly wrong when he said the group was not anti-Police.

"I think it's important for us to also understand that the phrase 'black lives matter' simply refers to the notion that there's a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed," the president said last week, talking to a Washington, D.C. gathering of enforcement officials, civil rights leaders, elected officials and other activists on the issue of racial disparities in the criminal justice system. "We shouldn't get too caught up in this notion that somehow people who are asking for fair treatment are somehow, automatically, anti-police, are trying to only look out for black lives as opposed to others. I think we have to be careful about playing that game."
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The last thing BLM is "asking" for is fairness.
They are violently attempting to make America bend the knee to their marxist, anti-American, revisionist-history, victim-culture, wholesale destruction of our country.
 
Paradoxical said:
The death of a black man at the hands of a white cop was just a smokescreen for Antifa, BLM and Marxists to oust Trump and bring for a Socialist Utopia. They are npt anti-cop.They are anti-America and everything it stands for. They want totalitarian rule.
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Blah blah blah
 
At this point, he only has race as a foundation. He is nothing without it. I take that back, he still has Sean and Tucker.
 
Acadia said:
The last thing BLM is "asking" for is fairness.
They are violently attempting to make America bend the knee to their marxist, anti-American, revisionist-history, victim-culture, wholesale destruction of our country.
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Yeah yeah, and you're supporting a second holocaust. Make America White Only.
 
Ouroboros said:
My phone won’t display post numbers so later for that. As for the other two, do either of those purported actions really pay off on Putin’s alleged investment? Wouldn’t it be a little more to the dictator’s advantage to, say, get Trump to block aid to Ukraine?
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He tried and got caught. Thus, he was impeached. He's also on record saying that Russia's invasion of Crimea was Obama's fault.
 
Paradoxical said:
Anecdotal accounts comparing cities like Chicago and Detroit and other high crime areas to others that are predominantly low crime is a ruse. Thing is that known high crime danger areas have police on the alert and edgy.
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Ah, so you have gone from ignoring the documented truth to excusing the documented truth by shrugging off a culture of unnecessary use of force as merely being "alert and edgy." Strange how military troops can maintain their professionalism in actual combat zones without getting "edgy." Those that do, routinely see Court Martial. Cops, who merely walk the street of America, have often enough proven that they are trigger happy and seek the system for protection.

Paradoxical said:
Your stats also don't show the color of the cop who does the shooting.
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Well, first, they aren't "my" stats. Those are official stats.

Second, is that supposed to matter? Black Lives Matter is supposed to be only about white cops? Here I thought that police reform was about police reform, not simply white. White cops are more often than not the offender, but the system is full of black cops, black lawyers, and black judges who routinely slap bad behavior on the wrist as merely a matter of being "edgy" in the moment. Somehow, the cop's misbehavior is normally excused because his job is "stressful." Thus, clearly, Black Lives Matter is not simply about white cops. Part of this institutionalized misbehavior comes from an arrogance of superiority that leads cops down unprofessional paths. And given that cops are quick to pull their weapons out and pull a trigger, plenty enough prove too petrified to carry a badge.

Clearly, despite your attempts to accuse all others of the real racism, you are coming at this with just a bi-polar view of things.

Paradoxical said:
But, you hold onto those false illusions of systemic racism if it makes you hate America more.
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Documented evidence and clear statistics do not translate to false illusions. A need to ignore such things do that.

But sure, let us all cling to false notions of reality so that we can design false patriotism around the lies that sustain that delusion. Don't confuse my disgust for certain Americans, who only think they love America, as hating America. This country stands for far more than the lot of you have proven to deserve.
 
d0gbreath said:
BLM does not hate the orange race. If trump wants to play whitey, he needs to wash his face.
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Can’t hate a race that doesn’t exist. The color of someone’s skin should not be used as a reason to hate anyone.

Human skin color - Wikipedia

Color terminology for race - Wikipedia

Can Eating Too Many Carrots Turn Your Skin Orange? – Health Essentials from Cleveland Clinic

The Science Behind The Mysterious Blue People Of Kentucky | IFLScience

Ray Stevens - Purple People Eater Lyrics | AZLyrics.com

"Purple People Eater"

Well I saw the thing comin' out of the sky
It had the one long horn, one big eye
I commenced to shakin' and I said "ooh-eee"
It looks like a purple eater to me

It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater
(One-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater)
A one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater
Sure looks strange to me (One eye?)

Well he came down to earth and he lit in a tree
I said Mr. Purple People Eater, don't eat me
I heard him say in a voice so gruff
I wouldn't eat you cuz you're so tough

It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater
One-eyed, one-horned flyin' purple people eater
One-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater
Sure looks strange to me (One horn?)

I said Mr. Purple People Eater, what's your line
He said it's eatin' purple people and it sure is fine
But that's not the reason that I came to land
I wanna get a job in a rock and roll band

Well bless my soul, rock and roll, flyin' purple people eater
Pigeon-toed, undergrowed, flyin' purple people eater
(We wear short shorts)
Flyin' purple people eater
Sure looks strange to me

And then he swung from the tree and he lit on the ground
He started to rock, really rockin' around
It was a crazy ditty with a swingin' tune
Sing a boop boop aboopa lopa lum bam boom

Well bless my soul, rock and roll, flyin' purple people eater
Pigeon-toed, undergrowed, flyin' purple people eater
I like short shorts
Flyin' little people eater
Sure looks strange to me (Purple People?)

And then he went on his way, and then what do ya know
I saw him last night on a TV show
He was blowing it out, a'really knockin' em dead
Playin' rock and roll music through the horn in his head

Tequila

Roseann:)
 
AlphaOmega said:
No that is factually you supporting a group that factually chants they want dead cops. Disgusting.
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Here's a snope article debunking your claim: Black Lives Matter Protesters Chant for 'Dead Cops Now' in Baton Rouge

There's definitely a number of extremists out there who support the BLM movement, but that doesn't mean that BLM as a whole supports them, what they stand for, and the acts they've carried out. The vast majority of BLM supporters have been protesting peacefully, and the few examples you've listed carried out by a small group of extremists that BLM itself has denounced does not contradict this. Do you have any examples of BLM as a group promoting violence or carrying out violent acts? And please post links to your sources.
 
Jonsa said:
Oh you mean those minority of racist cops that hide behind the "blue wall"? If you ignore what's going on around you and you are paid to uphold the law, you are complicit in breaking it.
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It seems you have the problem in Toronto. Sad to hear that.
 
CharisRose said:
Can’t hate a race that doesn’t exist. The color of someone’s skin should not be used as a reason to hate anyone.

Human skin color - Wikipedia

Color terminology for race - Wikipedia

Can Eating Too Many Carrots Turn Your Skin Orange? – Health Essentials from Cleveland Clinic

The Science Behind The Mysterious Blue People Of Kentucky | IFLScience

Ray Stevens - Purple People Eater Lyrics | AZLyrics.com

"Purple People Eater"

Well I saw the thing comin' out of the sky
It had the one long horn, one big eye
I commenced to shakin' and I said "ooh-eee"
It looks like a purple eater to me

It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater
(One-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater)
A one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater
Sure looks strange to me (One eye?)

Well he came down to earth and he lit in a tree
I said Mr. Purple People Eater, don't eat me
I heard him say in a voice so gruff
I wouldn't eat you cuz you're so tough

It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater
One-eyed, one-horned flyin' purple people eater
One-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater
Sure looks strange to me (One horn?)

I said Mr. Purple People Eater, what's your line
He said it's eatin' purple people and it sure is fine
But that's not the reason that I came to land
I wanna get a job in a rock and roll band

Well bless my soul, rock and roll, flyin' purple people eater
Pigeon-toed, undergrowed, flyin' purple people eater
(We wear short shorts)
Flyin' purple people eater
Sure looks strange to me

And then he swung from the tree and he lit on the ground
He started to rock, really rockin' around
It was a crazy ditty with a swingin' tune
Sing a boop boop aboopa lopa lum bam boom

Well bless my soul, rock and roll, flyin' purple people eater
Pigeon-toed, undergrowed, flyin' purple people eater
I like short shorts
Flyin' little people eater
Sure looks strange to me (Purple People?)

And then he went on his way, and then what do ya know
I saw him last night on a TV show
He was blowing it out, a'really knockin' em dead
Playin' rock and roll music through the horn in his head

Tequila

Roseann:)
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I loved that song when I was a kid!
 
MSgt;1072201917]Ah, so you have gone from ignoring the documented truth to excusing the documented truth by shrugging off a culture of unnecessary use of force as merely being "alert and edgy." Strange how military troops can maintain their professionalism in actual combat zones without getting "edgy." Those that do, routinely see Court Martial. Cops, who merely walk the street of America, have often enough proven that they are trigger happy and seek the system for protection.
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Ummm, the military is not out to arrest their enemies. They are out to KILL them. Since when was a soldier court martialed for killing a Taliban when we were at war. Are you suggesting that they would wait to see if that guy had a bomb or gun before shooting? The facts are Mr. Sgt that the high crime areas are ruthless which is why they kill so many people, rape, steal and do drugs. Someone in a high crime area who is on parole for murder wouldn't think twice about killing a cop. For that matter in 2019, there were 48 law enforcement officers killed in 2019....FAR more than the mere 8 unarmed black men killed. But, that seems fine with you. There were 56 killed in 2018. There is no mention of their lives being constantly in danger. They never know what is going to happen when they go out on a call.

FBI Releases 2019 Statistics on Law Enforcement Officers Killed in the Line of Duty — FBI




Well, first, they aren't "my" stats. Those are official stats.

Second, is that supposed to matter? Black Lives Matter is supposed to be only about white cops? Here I thought that police reform was about police reform, not simply white. White cops are more often than not the offender, but the system is full of black cops, black lawyers, and black judges who routinely slap bad behavior on the wrist as merely a matter of being "edgy" in the moment. Somehow, the cop's misbehavior is normally excused because his job is "stressful." Thus, clearly, Black Lives Matter is not simply about white cops. Part of this institutionalized misbehavior comes from an arrogance of superiority that leads cops down unprofessional paths. And given that cops are quick to pull their weapons out and pull a trigger, plenty enough prove too petrified to carry a badge.

Clearly, despite your attempts to accuse all others of the real racism, you are coming at this with just a bi-polar view of things.
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I thought this was all about racism. Are you saying black cops are racist against their own race?



Documented evidence and clear statistics do not translate to false illusions. A need to ignore such things do that.

But sure, let us all cling to false notions of reality so that we can design false patriotism around the lies that sustain that delusion. Don't confuse my disgust for certain Americans, who only think they love America, as hating America. This country stands for far more than the lot of you have proven to deserve.
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You bought into a MSM narrative. 8 black men killed is hardly institutionalized racism. Additionally, I have no info on whether or not those 8 may have appeared to have some sort of weapon. STOP the hate. You are infecting other impressionable young minds to riot over NOTHING!!!
 
MSgt said:
I'm not clear on what you are saying.

- I don't see "the media" watering down anything, though I don't watch opinionated news. I read.

- I know radical right-wing media sources (to include FOX News) is entirely focused on riots and statue desecration, while burying the message, thus belittling the message for its viewers who like to politicize everything.

- I see conservatives and liberals within the demonstrations. Even in my conservative stronghold in Highlands Ranch I see families on street corners doing their sign thing.

- I do not see how showing riots supports the narrative of systemic racism among the police. Off the top of my head, I recall the cop who shoved over the 75-year old man. Clearly, that was not about racism. But it was a clear example, as was the obnoxious police defensive response afterwards, of the unprofessional behavior within the police force that abets issues like systematic racism.
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I have not seen evidence of systemic racism among LEO across the nation. Yet, this is the false narrative being peddled in the liberal media.

BLM is a radical and violent Marxist political movement, reincarnated from the Black Panthers and Weather Underground of the 60's.

The media is downplaying BLM's radical message; e.g. "defund police", "release all juvenile offenders", "retry ALL black felons" etc.

The media and Democratic Party leadership is intentionally coddling BLM in hopes of negotiating with them behind the scenes for a more liberal friendly messaging PR. BLM has already gone on the record correcting the media's misrepresentation of their demands.
 
trixare4kids said:
Back in 2016, there was an online petition to designate BLM as a terrorist group. The petitition reached the amount of signatures needed for the WH to respond... Ironicially, President Obama said this about the group four years ago. Say what? He was clearly wrong when he said the group was not anti-Police.

"I think it's important for us to also understand that the phrase 'black lives matter' simply refers to the notion that there's a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed," the president said last week, talking to a Washington, D.C. gathering of enforcement officials, civil rights leaders, elected officials and other activists on the issue of racial disparities in the criminal justice system. "We shouldn't get too caught up in this notion that somehow people who are asking for fair treatment are somehow, automatically, anti-police, are trying to only look out for black lives as opposed to others. I think we have to be careful about playing that game."
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trix,
I have to agree with what Tump said and you quoted:
"I think it's important for us to also understand that the phrase 'black lives matter' simply refers to the notion that there's a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed," the president said last week"

That vulnerability happens to be the preponderance of black people who listen to shysters like Al Sharpton who is always reminding blacks of their victim-hood and how they are constantly being oppressed by white people.
 
AJG said:
Here's a snope article debunking your claim: Black Lives Matter Protesters Chant for 'Dead Cops Now' in Baton Rouge

There's definitely a number of extremists out there who support the BLM movement, but that doesn't mean that BLM as a whole supports them, what they stand for, and the acts they've carried out. The vast majority of BLM supporters have been protesting peacefully, and the few examples you've listed carried out by a small group of extremists that BLM itself has denounced does not contradict this. Do you have any examples of BLM as a group promoting violence or carrying out violent acts? And please post links to your sources.
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We do know that BLM have marched through the streets chanting that they want Dead Cops Now. We also know that they've raised many millions of dollars for the Democratic Party.

What else have they actually done, in real terms, that is helping the Black community?
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
We do know that BLM have marched through the streets chanting that they want Dead Cops Now. We also know that they've raised many millions of dollars for the Democratic Party.

What else have they actually done, in real terms, that is helping the Black community?
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Aside from ignoring the gross amount of population control... I really can't think of any good that the group is doing.
 
Oborosen said:
Aside from ignoring the gross amount of population control... I really can't think of any good that the group is doing.
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I don't know of any good either but they certainly seem to have some influence. I don't know why that's so either. Perhaps someone should ask them.
 
Deuce said:
Yeah yeah, and you're supporting a second holocaust. Make America White Only.
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Oh, dear, it's not Trump, Republicans, people on the right, conservatives etc. who are supporting another holocaust.
Better check your Democrat radicals oozing antisemitism.

Democrats are the party of "river to the sea".

I wonder if that makes you proud?
 
lurchadams said:
Because I am American and wish to take pride in my nation and it's leadership.
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Again trumpists show they are more like domestic abusers. “Show me where he touched you!”
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
We do know that BLM have marched through the streets chanting that they want Dead Cops Now. We also know that they've raised many millions of dollars for the Democratic Party.

What else have they actually done, in real terms, that is helping the Black community?
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You literally just referenced an example that I debunked in the post you quoted. Please provide an example of BLM as a group promoting violence or carrying out violent acts. Preferably one that hasn't been debunked.
 
Jonsa said:
No its confronting the privilege of a religion that has culturally appropriated their Lord. I guess you can't see the other prespective because you are so full of love peace and understanding yourself.

But I suppose taking provocative rhetorical statements for literal statements of intent is the stuff of fear mongering and reactionary justification.
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In the Biblical narrative the ancestry of Jesus was an “all” mixed race lineage.

The “white” image of Jesus resembles King Charlemagne. Biography: Charlemagne

Jesus did not have long hair but most likely did have a beard.

Since there are no images, paintings or busts of Jesus nobody knows for sure what Jesus actually looked like.

There is no way to know for sure the color of his skin, hair or eyes.

Jesus’s message was important. The color of his skin, hair or eyes was not important and was never mentioned in the Biblical narrative.

Roseann:)
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
I don't know of any good either but they certainly seem to have some influence. I don't know why that's so either. Perhaps someone should ask them.
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They have influence because they are being used by the Democratic Party to bolster the artificial racist meme. Without the artificial racist meme, the Democratic party has to rely on policy differences to set them apart from Republicans. Frankly, they don't have any that are going to be very acceptable to the typical Democratic voter. The Democratic party prefers elitist policies to bolster the nanny state. Democratic leaders like the big parties in the White House and shmoozing the press corp, which is why the press prefers them. But in terms of the poor?? The Democratic party has long relied on gratuitous hand outs but did keep them at a minimum. The party really hasn't done much to help the poor. In fact, the Democrats have been pretty good at raising the taxes on lower middle class Americans, and even the working poor. Thanks!!
 
MSgt said:
And those videos showing cops dancing with BLM protesters simply do not exist, huh? The idea that BLM is simply opposed to the police is a right-wing message to help you ignore the actual message. Clearly, all understand that police are necessary. Simply "opposed" to cops is nonsensical. Clearly, they are opposed to the documented, disproportionate police brutality, where even a cuffed black man is game. They know, as do you, that without the protests, that cop would have just moved on to the next day. Getting away with it is routine among a police force that would rather protect and defend their own, rather than hold one accountable for lowering the standard of conduct.

And in regards to the anger displayed within the crowd, this anger was tempered when they just knelt at football games. White people, especially conservatives, didn't want to hear the message then either. It's a simple formula seen in every culture. Eventually, people get fed up and the power realizes that they could have avoided it all had they simply listened and acknowledged on a proper level when they should have. We can send this formula into terrorism as well. Our country, like most others, seems to have to come to a crisis before mother****ers listen.

So, here's the moral of the study: Ignore this today, and await escalation tomorrow.

That being said, the real question now is why they are still protesting. Police departments and cities across the nation have officially declared a need for reform. A clear transition is taking place in regards to holding abusive cops accountable, which will raise the standards of conduct among the police, who should have always held their own accountable rather than defend them, thus lowering general standards. Towns and cities across the nation have officially sought, and plenty achieved, dismantling rebel celebratory statues. Even Mississippi is moving to remove the treason from their state flag. And even the idiot in the White House has signed legislation about the need for national police reform. In a sense, the protesters have achieved and won. So...go home. For now. In a few years, when/if all of this largely comes to no real change, perhaps you will remember this paragraph.
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This is what people refuse to understand when they try to act like the civil rights movement just asked nicely. Rioting as rather unfortunate as they are is generally the last ditch effort of the unheard.
 
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