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Trump calls Black Lives Matter a 'symbol of hate' as he digs in on race

Rogue Valley said:
I'm not aware of any police officers being killed or ambushed by BLM. Citation?

I am however aware of police officers being killed by the Boogaloo Boys who intended to blame it on BLM.
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BLM is promoting violence against the police and some people will respond.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
The cops started behaving like thugs?
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Yes.

Fred C Dobbs II said:
How many?
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Doesn't matter when the whole seeks to defend and cover up as a matter of routine unprofessional behavior. Amazing how the police across the nation are declaring that they need to reform. They seem to know more about this than you.

If they held each other accountable, "how many" could be argued as the exceptions. As it is, the more professional have decided to allow the bad apples to define them. There's a reason accountability is a huge in the military. The piece of **** does not and will not get to define the whole. Not so true in the police force. Without the protesters, the cop who murdered George Floyd would have simply been filed away. <--- THIS, Fred, is what America is fed up with. Why should it take a protest for a bad cop to see justice? When a cop screws up, the rest should stand up and demand that their reputations be protected from his act.

Fred C Dobbs II said:
And how many protesters are behaving like thugs?
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Doesn't matter when the thugs are the ones who are not trusted to carry a badge and not expected to be professional. It's amazing how thugs are expected to be thugs and cops are not. By all means, let our troops start hacking off heads on camera.

Your zeal to protect the thuggery within the police force has you excusing their misbehavior. <--- THIS, Fred, is what America is fed up with.
 
MSgt said:
Yes.



Doesn't matter when the whole seeks to defend and cover up as a matter of routine unprofessional behavior. Amazing how the police across the nation are declaring that they need to reform. They seem to know more about this than you.

If they held each other accountable, "how many" could be argued as the exceptions. As it is, the more professional have decided to allow the bad apples to define them. There's a reason accountability is a huge in the military. The piece of **** does not and will not get to define the whole. Not so true in the police force. Without the protesters, the cop who murdered George Floyd would have simply been filed away. <--- THIS, Fred, is what America is fed up with. Why should it take a protest for a bad cop to see justice? When a cop screws up, the rest should stand up and demand that their reputations be protected from his act.



Doesn't matter when the thugs are the ones who are not trusted to carry a badge and not expected to be professional. It's amazing how thugs are expected to be thugs and cops are not. By all means, let our troops start hacking off heads on camera.

Your zeal to protect the thuggery within the police force has you excusing their misbehavior. <--- THIS, Fred, is what America is fed up with.
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Have you EVER complained as vociferously about WHITE people being hassled and/or killed by cops. Or do you just shrug and say, "Oh, he was white. Doesn't fit my agenda"?
 
lurchadams said:
Post as many pictures as you want. No one supports rioting except the ones rioting. You want to superglue the rioters to the Democrats, we understand that. You see the poll numbers and trump constantly steeping on his own junk and you're desperate.
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If the Democrats didn't support the rioters then they would not have allowed to happen and continue. They even tried to sell it as a 'Summer of Love'! Can you not see what's happening in Democratic run cities?
 
lurchadams said:
Post as many pictures as you want. No one supports rioting except the ones rioting. You want to superglue the rioters to the Democrats, we understand that. You see the poll numbers and trump constantly steeping on his own junk and you're desperate.
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What is your party doing about it? The Trump poll numbers will rise when Biden comes out of the basement and tells the country how he is going to make it better
 
CaughtInThe said:
Dude. If people sympathize with white supremacists then that means they sympathize with their views. Do you really not get that?
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You’re the one not following the drift of the conversation. Who are these sympathizers, and what have they done to support white supremacy movements?

Come on, surely you can provide one lousy piece of evidence.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
If the Democrats didn't support the rioters then they would not have allowed to happen and continue. <snip>
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I realized after the first sentence the rest of the post was going to be utter crap.
 
Conservative said:
What is your party doing about it? The Trump poll numbers will rise when Biden comes out of the basement and tells the country how he is going to make it better
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Sorry, the only one holding super-spreader events is the mango menace right now. Biden's is talking plenty, and yet the orange bunker-boy's numbers are dropping like a stone. Heck, even some long-time wing-nut sentators' seats are in play. Hold on to your red hat, my friend. This could be a bloodbath!
 
MSgt said:
Yes. Doesn't matter when the whole seeks to defend and cover up as a matter of routine unprofessional behavior. Amazing how the police across the nation are declaring that they need to reform. They seem to know more about this than you.
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So the police are thugs but you have no idea whether there is two or two million.
If they held each other accountable, "how many" could be argued as the exceptions. As it is, the more professional have decided to allow the bad apples to define them. There's a reason accountability is a huge in the military. The piece of **** does not and will not get to define the whole. Not so true in the police force. Without the protesters, the cop who murdered George Floyd would have simply been filed away. <--- THIS, Fred, is what America is fed up with. Why should it take a protest for a bad cop to see justice? When a cop screws up, the rest should stand up and demand that their reputations be protected from his act.
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Now you're pointing to what can be a serious problem and the police unions, like other powerful essential service unions, have a great deal to do with that. It can be very difficult to fire a bad cop and often they are just transferred elsewhere.
Doesn't matter when the thugs are the ones who are not trusted to carry a badge and not expected to be professional. It's amazing how thugs are expected to be thugs and cops are not. By all means, let our troops start hacking off heads on camera. Your zeal to protect the thuggery within the police force has you excusing their misbehavior. <--- THIS, Fred, is what America is fed up with.
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Well you got in one sensible point anyway.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
If the Democrats didn't support the rioters then they would not have allowed to happen and continue. They even tried to sell it as a 'Summer of Love'! Can you not see what's happening in Democratic run cities?
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Let's hope that the mayor and City of Seattle along with governor is sued for millions and loses to those killed by BLM and Antifa during the "summer of love".
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
If the Democrats didn't support the rioters then they would not have allowed to happen and continue. They even tried to sell it as a 'Summer of Love'! Can you not see what's happening in Democratic run cities?
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I feel sorry for the Democrats who aren’t just using the riots for self promotion. Some Dems may honestly believe they’re helping redress wrongs. But even the sincere ones are guilty of not seeing that BLM and Antifa are helping no one but themselves.
 
lurchadams said:
Sorry, the only one holding super-spreader events is the mango menace right now. Biden's is talking plenty, and yet the orange bunker-boy's numbers are dropping like a stone. Heck, even some long-time wing-nut sentators' seats are in play. Hold on to your red hat, my friend. This could be a bloodbath!
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What if Trump wins? Do you think the Democrats will then accept the will of the people?
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
What if Trump wins? Do you think the Democrats will then accept the will of the people?
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Yes, if the unlikely happens they will. If trump loses, however, he will do everything he can to burn this country to the ground before January 20th and his sycophants will assist in the attempted destruction. I'm absolutely sure of this.
 
Ouroboros said:
I feel sorry for the Democrats who aren’t just using the riots for self promotion. Some Dems may honestly believe they’re helping redress wrongs. But even the sincere ones are guilty of not seeing that BLM and Antifa are helping no one but themselves.
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Don't know if you saw Tucker Carlson last night but he's risking his safety by naming those who have been destroying public property, attacking the police and others, and even a murder suspect. He made the same point as you that traditional Democrats, good people, have no idea what their party has become. I hope they wake up by November.
 
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lurchadams said:
Sorry, the only one holding super-spreader events is the mango menace right now. Biden's is talking plenty, and yet the orange bunker-boy's numbers are dropping like a stone. Heck, even some long-time wing-nut sentators' seats are in play. Hold on to your red hat, my friend. This could be a bloodbath!
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Then you tell me what a President Biden would do to make this country better, your life and family better? Results don't seem to matter to you
 
lurchadams said:
Yes, if the unlikely happens they will. If trump loses, however, he will do everything he can to burn this country to the ground before January 20th and his sycophants will assist in the attempted destruction. I'm absolutely sure of this.
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Trump's history and words have never suggested he ever wanted to burn the country to the ground but, if he ever tried, he would have no support from anyone. He would be a 'lone wolf' and easily spotted.
 
Conservative said:
Then you tell me what a President Biden would do to make this country better, your life and family better? Results don't seem to matter to you
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Sure. Well, the first thing he would have done would have been to appoint actual competent adults in his administration. He wouldn't have disbanded the pandemic task force and as a result, many more Americans would be alive right now. Also, thousands of our Kurdish allies would still be alive and we wouldn't be on the brink of war with Iran.

Why? Because results do matter!
 
lurchadams said:
Yes, if the unlikely happens they will. If trump loses, however, he will do everything he can to burn this country to the ground before January 20th and his sycophants will assist in the attempted destruction. I'm absolutely sure of this.
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Do you realize what a bad case of TDS you have? Trump has done nothing to warrant this hatred. I am sure you are a partisan leftwing radical who truly hates the country in which you live. There is no valid reason to vote for Biden
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Trump's history and words have never suggested he ever wanted to burn the country to the ground but, if he ever tried, he would have no support from anyone. He would be a 'lone wolf' and easily spotted.
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I hope you're correct, but I doubt that you are. trump's hasn't just been a "lone wolf". He's been aided and abetted by his criminal AG and almost all of the criminal GOP congresspeople. It's been a really sad ****-show.
 
Conservative said:
Do you realize what a bad case of TDS you have? Trump has done nothing to warrant this hatred. I am sure you are a partisan leftwing radical who truly hates the country in which you live. There is no valid reason to vote for Biden
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<shaking my head> I accept your surrender. My words have obviously hit home for you and you know I'm correct.
 
lurchadams said:
Sure. Well, the first thing he would have done would have been to appoint actual competent adults in his administration. He wouldn't have disbanded the pandemic task force and as a result, many more Americans would be alive right now. Also, thousands of our Kurdish allies would still be alive and we wouldn't be on the brink of war with Iran.

Why? Because results do matter!
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Right, career public servants with no private sector experience, brilliant. Then the pandemic reaction, testing kits without social distancing and quarantine makes sense only to a liberal, another knee jerk reaction on your part.

So you have nothing here, you believe Biden would put better people in positions within his Administration based upon what? You think things will be better for the country with Biden, how do you know? Your hatred has blinded you to the reality of the actual results generated. Have your parents sent their tax cut back? How about you?
 
Xilnik said:
BLM is a movement, and the ideals it stands for should be something all Americans support. BLM is not really a group even though it has a group of people who are part of the movement. I have no idea if anyone who is actually part of the movement is committing the crimes that we are seeing, or if there is a faction of extremists who claim to support the movement for their own gains. I also feel like Black Lives Matter members providing a lack of a response to concerns similar to your own hurts the movement because it further alienates people who already oppose the movement.
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Everyone should stand for the dissolution of the nuclear family? Because that's literally one of their positions.

And interestingly, that position pretty much guarantees more poor black teens turning to gangs and crime, and never rising out of their socioeconomic bracket. The single best determinant in future success of a child is having a two-parent household. The fact that single motherhood in the black family is so enormous, is the main reason that black communities are still so poverty-stricken.
 
Conservative said:
Right, career public servants with no private sector experience, brilliant. Then the pandemic reaction, testing kits without social distancing and quarantine makes sense only to a liberal, another knee jerk reaction on your part.

So you have nothing here, you believe Biden would put better people in positions within his Administration based upon what? You think things will be better for the country with Biden, how do you know? Your hatred has blinded you to the reality of the actual results generated. Have your parents sent their tax cut back? How about you?
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Dude, look at the chaos that the trump administration has been mired in since even before his inauguration! What is he on his 5th or 6th chief of staff, press secretary, security advisor, sec def, etc.? None of them have a positive thing to say about trump, just the opposite - they say he's an incompetent nutjob.

You want to make this about me, I understand it because it's much simpler to deal with that way. You've obviously been ignoring the 4-year long trumpster fire.
 
lurchadams said:
<shaking my head> I accept your surrender. My words have obviously hit home for you and you know I'm correct.
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What I notice about you is the inability to post data or offer evidence to support your claims. You are incapable of debating issues as results in context don't matter. You tell me how Trump's appointees have affected you and your family? You tell me what actions Trump should have taken that would have prevented deaths in this country from the COVID19 that would have been constitutional?
 
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