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Protesters set fire at Wendy’s where fatal police shooting took place.

We've tried the other response of: Suspend the officer with pay, file a report, and sweep it under the rug, too many times already. That doesn't seem to get noticed.

Unfortunately, what is getting noticed is the bad behavior. People will remember the rioting and the fires more than the message of the protests. It's just how the human brain works.
 
(Drunk and disorderly, refusing to obey the police who are enforcing the law are crimes. Those crimes do not warrant being shot and killed. )

So your ok with drunk drivers fighting police, and shooting at them, really?
 
From what I’ve read, CHAZ, is a bunch of people getting food, hanging out at the park, painting stuff, having concerts and poetry readings. I’m starting to think it’s really people escaping lockdowns and using BLM as cover.

The Hippies of the 60s who disdain work and responsibilities
 
The bikers will significantly outgun the CHAZ people. What will happen is the parents of the spoiled white kids will call them and tell them to get out of there. It'll probably be uneventful.

It will be uneventful because it won't happen. It's just another fake news article about bikers. I cracked up when I saw one on facebook where the Hells Angles were going to team up with their arch rivals The Mongels to kick protester ass. Yeah, sure.
 
So, you agree Blacks built this country not whites. Nice. So, you are all for reparations, I take it?

BS. Men and women of multiple ethnicities contributed to the construction of this great nation. How dare you conflate your petty bigotry with the making of a nation built on greed, theft, prostitution and booze. Reparations for what? For stealing black people from the cauldrons and killing fields of other black people. People betrayed by their own, long before being sold as slaves to other Africans, Arabs, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Turkish, British and Belgian slave traders. 12.5 million Africans were sold into slavery destined for Central and South America. Less than a half million landed in North America, including Mexico and Canada. By 1860 more than 100 million northern Europeans had migrated to North America, another 10 million Iberian Europeans to Central and South America. Some 85% of African slaves were brought here from the Caribbean, brought there mostly by English, French, Belgian and Spanish slavers. During the same period more than 100k free African men and women migrated by choice to North America.

The schooner Clotilda was last American ship to ply the Atlantic from Africa to the US, from an entire fleet of 11 American slaver ships to do so from colonial days until 1859. Comparatively the British had more than 200 slaver ships during the same period, the Spanish more than 300, the Belgians 200, the French 150. Slaver ships allowed their passengers 5.5 sq ft of space, compared to the plight of later European immigrants in the holds of freighters, who had all of 4 sq ft of space allotted for each passenger.

More than 40% of north Europeans who migrated to North America were forced to do so against their will, deemed criminals by their governments, exported for the labor they could supply the colonies. 30% sold themselves into indentured slavery for 7 years, to escape extreme poverty, especially common among English, French and Dutch immigrants. Less that 10% were fleeing oppression, whether political or religious. The remainder, the bastards and youngest sons of the nobility seeking fortunes.

Reparations to who and for what? Exactly. Today's Africans who remain in Africa, along with relatively recent voluntary immigrants look down on African Americans as not being real Africans, diluted by white, Asian and indigenous American lineages. Sit down with some recent immigrants from Nigeria, or some of Sengalese, and hear their disrespect for African Americans who preceded them.

Your BS about comparing the north American history of African Americans to the purposeful genocide of Jews by Nazis, inclusive of all of Germany's people, along with their Polish and other eastern European counterparts is bogus.

Do not tell me what I think.
 
The vast majority of cop/citizen encounters, end just fine, including involving minorities. One of the problems is that you’re not interested in any of the details when a black person is killed by police. You’ll always deem it unjustified and include what happened to someone like Micah Johnson as being just the same as what happened to George Floyd.

I don't see that as a problem. What are some of the other problems?
 
Unfortunately, what is getting noticed is the bad behavior. People will remember the rioting and the fires more than the message of the protests. It's just how the human brain works.

Thank you for your Psychiatric expertise.
 
Unfortunately, what is getting noticed is the bad behavior. People will remember the rioting and the fires more than the message of the protests. It's just how the human brain works.

I believe it's our duty to not forget those hurt, killed and otherwise ruined because of the riots. The Left will act like it never happened, but we know, without any doubt, that when a black man is killed by the police, there will be tenfold more if riots are permitted to break loose.
 
And to take it a bit further, I realize it would be difficult at times to distinguish between peaceful assembly/protest and riots. If your favorite hockey team wins the Stanely Cup and people want to celebrate in the street depending on where, when and how I probably wouldn't have a problem with that. Celebrating in the street would certainly no qualify as a protest, peaceful or otherwise. But we all know that when a city wins a national championship it often results in rioting and destruction.

Looting, destruction and violence do not produce positive results.

On the one hand, I can understand why people became upset because the guy was shot and killed at Wendy's. Drunk and disorderly, refusing to obey the police who are enforcing the law are crimes. Those crimes do not warrant being shot and killed.

People who witnessed the incident had the right to protest - peacefully. The white woman who allegedly started the fire at Wendy's was not a protester. If she did set the fire she is a criminal. Setting Wendy's on fire had nothing to do with protest other than directing the news focus away from the man who was killed. It was counterproductive.

Responsible and lawful responses and irresponsible and unlawful responses can occur at the same event.

I don’t disagree with much here Risky but I do have to say that, of course, DWI and resisting and evading don’t justify killing someone and nobody thinks they do. This young man was not killed as punishment for those offenses, any more than Travon Martin was killed for wearing a hoodie. It’s about what happened during the encounter and, in this one, he took a weapon from an officer. I’m not even saying this is a justified shoot, just that, the reason for the arrest/encounter is largely irrelevant to how things turn out.
 
I don't see that as a problem. What are some of the other problems?

No, I don’t suppose you would any more than you see arson as any kind of a problem.
 
"Protesters set fire at Wendy’s where fatal police shooting took place." Atlanta Journal-Constitution 06/14/2020





I'm sorry, but this is not a solution, it exacerbates the problem.

The Wendy's supervisor/manager rightly called the police regarding a problem with a customer. The police show up, and an incident occurs resulting in the death of the individual.

So what is the response? Burn down a restaurant that services the neighborhood and likely employed people from that neighborhood.

Does anyone actually think this kind of response is justified? Really?


I'm sure the loss of minimum wage jobs will be devastating to the community.

But I think most people are more worried about the guy who got shot.
 
I'm sure the loss of minimum wage jobs will be devastating to the community.

But I think most people are more worried about the guy who got shot.

First part is sense sarcasm. :mrgreen: Second part, most would be concerned on another police shooting.

Unlike the laws of physics, sometimes a personal action does not have an equal and opposite reaction.
 
I don’t disagree with much here Risky but I do have to say that, of course, DWI and resisting and evading don’t justify killing someone and nobody thinks they do. This young man was not killed as punishment for those offenses, any more than Travon Martin was killed for wearing a hoodie. It’s about what happened during the encounter and, in this one, he took a weapon from an officer. I’m not even saying this is a justified shoot, just that, the reason for the arrest/encounter is largely irrelevant to how things turn out.

Maybe we wouldn't have this problem if our police were competent at subduing people without weapons. Or even if they were better at actually hanging onto those weapons, instead of letting drunk people steal them.
 
Damn skippy. I hate cops. Until proven otherwise, all I see is that they are a bunch of bullies with not enough training and too much power.

The entire platform of law enforcement needs to be completely overhauled.


Damn but you are going to hate them even more. When the fail to catch and kill the two meth heads who will break into your home, tie you up and beat you until you surrender all your pin numbers and passwords, then urinate and defecate on you for the pleasure it gives them, and then do the same throughout your house that you've worked so hard on to make a home. And of course, before leaving, they'll chop holes in the walls and floors looking for hidden valuables, and you can hate those bullies even more.
 
Maybe we wouldn't have this problem if our police were competent at subduing people without weapons. Or even if they were better at actually hanging onto those weapons, instead of letting drunk people steal them.

Just out of curiosity, is there ever a point when (someone other than the police) is responsible for what they’ve done?
 
Here we go again.

Are you being paid by the word?

Being confronted by truth insults you? I sincerely hope you enjoyed my previous post to you.
 
Just out of curiosity, is there ever a point when (someone other than the police) is responsible for what they’ve done?

I except stupid drunk people to do stupid drunk people things. I expect police officers to act with a modicum of competency. Clearly I overestimated their abilities in this instance.
 
The Union Generals get a pass.

If this country was built on racism and we’re racist to the core, why do they get a pass? Where’s your commitment?
 
In sum, I am sure your father heard there was a bounty on American soldiers where he was stationed or even his particular unit, but I suspect it was likely a psywar tactic and less an actual bounty..

My father served during WWII and Korea. I served in SE Asia and you were not there. I don't care what you read, you were not there. You didn't see with your own eyes.

To hell with your suspicions and speculations. They are BS.
 
If this country was built on racism and we’re racist to the core, why do they get a pass? Where’s your commitment?

Sorry, I don't know that one. </alexavoice>
 
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