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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post




    If the police beat these people into the ground.

    And I was on the jury who tried them. I'd say not guilty, and would never budge.

    Jury nullification.
    Well, at least the bar you set, it easy to step over.

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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

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    Prove it.
    All ER's must accept patients whether or not they have a means to pay.

    Well, that was easy...
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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    And yet, you don't know if they are NOT out there. Maybe they just left their guns home this time. Maybe they changed from camo to black clothes.

    Tell me...how would you know if they were there or not?
    It's weird to see the same people who screamed about the "violent" lock down protest because weapons were present find the most pressing issue for them in all of this was that lack of armed civilians at a protest.

    Pay no attention to their darling Antifa burning cities down....
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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I am saying that these people that were supposedly protesting the government's tyranny of stay at home orders during a pandemic are nowhere to be found when the government kills unarmed black men in front of god and everyone. If these guys care about freedom so much, then why do I not see them at any of the peaceful protests against police brutality here in KC? They sure as **** were protesting not being able to go to a restaurant or get their hair cut during the lockdown, so why are they not out there with everyone else protesting police brutality?

    You can't pretend to care about freedom and not be outraged by the government killing unarmed minorities in front of god and everyone. So if you don't support the protests against this, the peaceful protests, not the riots, then drop the bull**** about caring about freedom.
    Police officers are employed and managed by local government. Officers like other first responders are good people overall. The politicians that supervise them, not always. Why isn't there a protest in Chicago every Monday at the Mayor's failure to protect the citizenry over the weekend? To mix topics a bit, the ineptitude and outright corruption of big city government is a big reason voting from those precincts is so suspect.

    I can understand the rage, but it can't be a blind rage. It needs to be focused. There were 2 black entrepreneurs from Atlanta interviewed this morning. ( Atlanta mayor is doing a good job imo re: the rest) Their clothing retail business had survived the 3 month Covid19 lockdown. They were set to open today. They lost everything last night, stolen or destroyed. Watching the carnage, watching businesses being destroyed seeing the Lincoln Memorial, WWII memorial churches defaced. Should be the source of rage. DeBlasio and mayors and governors around the country put up tip lines for citizens to report Covid19 order violations how about they enforce the law with equal zeal. Business people were jailed for opening a soft touch was ordered for burning and pillaging.

    Looks like the disciples of Cloward Pivin and Alinsky are going to get the visual they want. Martial Law. Military and equipment in the streets. Blackhawks in the sky. Instead of mobilizing hospitals building jails. To quell an insurgency.

    Hope Democrats and the Democrat media are proud. It has gotten the pandemic off the TV. Anyone see the SpaceX launch? Pretty cool




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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Those videos were of the police attacking people peacefully protesting and in some cases, people that were not even protesting. As to who loves America. You support a guy that regularly showers praise on this country's enemies. Trump has showered Kim Jong Un with praise, a dictator that has tortured to death American citizens. So quit pretending to love America, because if you loved America, you would not support a man that showers this country's enemies with praise.

    Moreover, don't pretend to love freedom. Because if you love freedom, you would not be for the police killing and beating unarmed civilians. You have exposed your true beliefs so man up and own it.
    My freedom, and the freedom of other law-abiding Americans, is enhanced by measures to quell disorder. If that requires the police to use violence against people who won't obey their instructions, so be it.

    As for Trump, I get that you don't like him or his foreign policy, but I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I watched a commentator reviewing what's going on regarding the riots.

    His background is in the military, law enforcement and the Secret Service.

    He said that in any crowd control situation, agitators causing possible problems are easily identified by expert observers and then the agitators are removed and the situation cools down.

    He noted that in Minneapolis, this was not done. In fact, the situation was allowed to fester and get worse by not addressing it as it was starting.

    From what I've heard, the riots were allowed to blossom over a multiple day (night?) period.

    The Minneapolis law enforcement seems to have made two BIG mistakes. One to kill a defenseless citizen and the other to not protect citizens that depend on them to maintain order.

    BOTH mistakes are producing the response we see now.
    There's two elements to the riots. On the one hand, professional agitators exist, and have undoubtedly been creating chaos both in Minneapolis and around the country. They weren't dealt with early on (because people in high places support them), thus the current situation. On the other hand, any time large crowds of blacks gather, there's danger of a riot. These two phenomenon have fed into each other.
    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    It would be a miracle if black people didn't riot.
    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I'm sure there are some child molesters that are "fine people".

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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    My freedom, and the freedom of other law-abiding Americans, is enhanced by measures to quell disorder. If that requires the police to use violence against people who won't obey their instructions, so be it.
    That is literally the exact same argument the Chinese Communist Party uses.
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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    That is literally the exact same argument the Chinese Communist Party uses.
    The Chinese Communist Party is also of the opinion that water is wet, that the Earth is round, and that two and two make four. Would that its American counterpart, the Democratic Party, could be so reasonable.
    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    It would be a miracle if black people didn't riot.
    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I'm sure there are some child molesters that are "fine people".

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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Eriech View Post
    Police officers are employed and managed by local government.
    Not always. For example, in KC, the city police is not managed by city hall due to state law.

    Officers like other first responders are good people overall.
    I agree, but the problem is that the 90% that are good, will hardly ever give up the 10% that arent.

    The politicians that supervise them, not always. Why isn't there a protest in Chicago every Monday at the Mayor's failure to protect the citizenry over the weekend? To mix topics a bit, the ineptitude and outright corruption of big city government is a big reason voting from those precincts is so suspect.

    I can understand the rage, but it can't be a blind rage. It needs to be focused. There were 2 black entrepreneurs from Atlanta interviewed this morning. ( Atlanta mayor is doing a good job imo re: the rest) Their clothing retail business had survived the 3 month Covid19 lockdown. They were set to open today. They lost everything last night, stolen or destroyed. Watching the carnage, watching businesses being destroyed seeing the Lincoln Memorial, WWII memorial churches defaced. Should be the source of rage. DeBlasio and mayors and governors around the country put up tip lines for citizens to report Covid19 order violations how about they enforce the law with equal zeal. Business people were jailed for opening a soft touch was ordered for burning and pillaging.

    Looks like the disciples of Cloward Pivin and Alinsky are going to get the visual they want. Martial Law. Military and equipment in the streets. Blackhawks in the sky. Instead of mobilizing hospitals building jails. To quell an insurgency.

    Hope Democrats and the Democrat media are proud. It has gotten the pandemic off the TV. Anyone see the SpaceX launch? Pretty cool




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    No one is in favor of rioting. It's worth pointing out that the vast majority of protests have been peaceful, and there are instances of white supremacists engaging in vandalism in the protests. Moreover, if you actually watch the videos in the opening post article, you will see the police engaging in violence against peaceful protesters and in some cases against people that are not even protesting.
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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    The Chinese Communist Party is also of the opinion that water is wet, that the Earth is round, and that two and two make four. Would that its American counterpart, the Democratic Party, could be so reasonable.
    You are the one praising and arguing in favor of government violence and oppression. Not me.
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    Re: Caught on camera, police explode in rage and violence across the US

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You are the one praising and arguing in favor of government violence and oppression. Not me.
    And you are supporting mob violence and oppression. As a law-abiding citizen, I am more concerned with that.
    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    It would be a miracle if black people didn't riot.
    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I'm sure there are some child molesters that are "fine people".

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