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John Prine, dead of Covid. Rest in Peace.

I remember hanging with some friends, acquaintances in a local bar, listening to music, trying to make music, drinking shots of Jack with Bud backs from draft pitchers, winter of 71/72. At the bar, one of the fellows starts raving about this guy who was better than Dylan, and who had left for Canada to avoid the draft but fortunately returned. First time I heard John Prine's name. Had no idea about the Canada story being true or not, nor had I heard any of his songs or heard him perform, and I basically forgot about him that evening. Never bothered to find out if the Canada story was true, but that summer or maybe it was in the fall, during an album buying spree I picked up John's first album, not quite sure why I knew his name. It struck home, hard. I've been listening to John ever since, always ready for more. I know this song has already been posted, but I'm posting it again for my brother who came home to the same self destruction.



I heard John say he wrote this song after leaving the Army, and I believe that Canada story wasn't true, or maybe I'm wrong. He might have changed his mind, returned to serve. Doesn't really matter. His poetry is all that does matter.
 
RIP Mr. Prine
 
OldFatGuy said:
I remember hanging with some friends, acquaintances in a local bar, listening to music, trying to make music, drinking shots of Jack with Bud backs from draft pitchers, winter of 71/72. At the bar, one of the fellows starts raving about this guy who was better than Dylan, and who had left for Canada to avoid the draft but fortunately returned. First time I heard John Prine's name. Had no idea about the Canada story being true or not, nor had I heard any of his songs or heard him perform, and I basically forgot about him that evening. Never bothered to find out if the Canada story was true, but that summer or maybe it was in the fall, during an album buying spree I picked up John's first album, not quite sure why I knew his name. It struck home, hard. I've been listening to John ever since, always ready for more. I know this song has already been posted, but I'm posting it again for my brother who came home to the same self destruction.



I heard John say he wrote this song after leaving the Army, and I believe that Canada story wasn't true, or maybe I'm wrong. He might have changed his mind, returned to serve. Doesn't really matter. His poetry is all that does matter.
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I believe "Sam Stone" is Prine's best work. It's even better IMO, when experienced contemporaneously with the events depicted. From concurrent with or (by dress & hair) just after that little "conflict overseas":


 
What a shame.

Remember when some people said this virus may just go away?

Or that they had done such a great job dealing with it.



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Hatuey said:
What a shame.

Remember when some people said this virus may just go away?

Or that they had done such a great job dealing with it.



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In all fairness, JP was exactly the type of person who often dies from a viral infection. Radiation, chemo, several bouts with cancer, including lung cancer.
 
TurtleDude said:
In all fairness, JP was exactly the type of person who often dies from a viral infection. Radiation, chemo, several bouts with cancer, including lung cancer.
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In all fairness, the virus was going away on its own. That it has killed 15K people in just weeks is impressive.



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Hatuey said:
In all fairness, the virus was going away on its own. That it has killed 15K people in just weeks is impressive.



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I guess that is one way to look at it
 
TurtleDude said:
I guess that is one way to look at it
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Nah, anyone claiming this is just like the flu is an irresponsible troll. I was in Europe when the first French politician was quarantined. One week the Louvre is nearly empty, the next it's deserted. I managed to get on a flight back but the fear I saw in people was justified. Italy just went to something equivalent to 6 x WTC deaths in weeks. North America will see the same if not worse.

That type of sudden loss leaves scars in the psyche of a country.


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Hatuey said:
Nah, anyone claiming this is just like the flu is an irresponsible troll. I was in Europe when the first French politician was quarantined. One week the Louvre is nearly empty, the next it's deserted. I managed to get on a flight back but the fear I saw in people was justified. Italy just went to something equivalent to 6 x WTC deaths in weeks. North America will see the same if not worse.

That type of sudden loss leaves scars in the psyche of a country.


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Because it's not the "flu". It's freakin' SARS!
 
Chomsky said:
Yeah - that does make it a little more exciting while we get to know it, for sure!
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See the meme that has EAT MORE CHIKENS?
 
Chomsky said:
No! But I did see the one where the dog-owner asked his dog for his paw, and the dog refused! :lamo
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yeah in some parts of the world, if you ask someone to WALK your dog make sure they don't think you said WOK!
 
beefheart said:
Please, just stop it.

Lets talk about the loss of a great American songwriter, and leave the BS behind.
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are you disagreeing? and why take issue with my post-
 
Hatuey said:
In all fairness, the virus was going away on its own. That it has killed 15K people in just weeks is impressive.



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When it is your time, it is your time. The cause falls by the wayside into irrelevancy. No matter the cause, the loss is as deeply felt as the love and respect that person earned in this short life.
 
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