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Trump Pushes to Knock Hundreds of Thousands Off of Food Stamps While COVID-19 Death Toll Rises

VanceMack said:
You didnt answer the question. The polciy in question calls for able bodied men and women without dependents to work 20 hours in order to qualify for benefits. Do you agree with the policy and just not the timing or do you disagree with the policy altogether?
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Work where? Are you not aware that millions have been laid off in the past 2 weeks? This isn't a black and white situation, do this or do that. This could easily be you or me. Right now I'm lucky and grateful to still be employed.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Work where? Are you not aware that millions have been laid off in the past 2 weeks? This isn't a black and white situation, do this or do that. This could easily be you or me. Right now I'm lucky and grateful to still be employed.
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You arent answering the question. Its not a complicated question but it does speak volumes as to your motivation.
 
VanceMack said:
You arent answering the question. Its not a complicated question but it does speak volumes as to your motivation.
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I answered your question. How can people be required to work 20 hours a week when there is no work?
 
HenryChinaski said:
I answered your question. How can people be required to work 20 hours a week when there is no work?
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When you are left to attempt to answer a question with a question, you arent answering the question. The policy in question calls for able bodied men and women without dependents to work 20 hours in order to qualify for benefits. Do you agree with the policy and just not the timing or do you disagree with the policy altogether?
 
VanceMack said:
When you are left to attempt to answer a question with a question, you arent answering the question. T[SIZE=5]he policy in question calls for able bodied men and women without dependents to work 20 hours in order to qualify for benefits.[/SIZE] Do you agree with the policy and just not the timing or do you disagree with the policy altogether?
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The policy is question is calling for able bodied men and women to work 20 hours a week at jobs that DON'T EXIST because millions have been laid off because there is a world wide pandemic. Who in the **** would agree with such a policy besides you?
 
HenryChinaski said:
The policy is question is calling for able bodied men and women to work 20 hours a week at jobs that DON'T EXIST because millions have been laid off because there is a world wide pandemic. Who in the **** would agree with such a policy besides you?
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Still you refuse to answer the question.
 
HenryChinaski said:
I answered your question. How can people be required to work 20 hours a week when there is no work?
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This reduction in subsidy from the USDA was introduced in 2019, before the corona virus began proliferating across the United States. It would make sense that the start date would be shifted given the current circumstances.
 
HenryChinaski said:
I already answered your question, I Don't support this nonsense that you do.
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No...you havent answered the question. Deliberately so. Its not complicated. The policy in question calls for able bodied men and women without dependents to work 20 hours in order to qualify for benefits. Do you agree with the policy and just not the timing or do you disagree with the policy altogether?
 
VanceMack said:
No...you havent answered the question. Deliberately so. Its not complicated. The policy in question calls for able bodied men and women without dependents to work 20 hours in order to qualify for benefits. Do you agree with the policy and just not the timing or do you disagree with the policy altogether?
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It's two separate issues. The policy minus the 6.6 million unemployment and pandemic is an arbitrary reaction to an issue that isn't black and white. You add the timing to this policy and pressing forward with it is a skummy dick move and is going to **** Trump come voting day November.
 
HenryChinaski said:
It's two separate issues. The policy minus the 6.6 million unemployment and pandemic is an arbitrary reaction to an issue that isn't black and white. You add the timing to this policy and pressing forward with it is a skummy dick move and is going to **** Trump come voting day November.
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The timing of this policy was a year ago. The pandemic is the abnormal. The only reason this is being discussed is because people fought the policy...otherwise the policy would have been enacted last year.

I truly believe that anyone that is stupid enough to think they are going to be able to use the economy based on the pandemic as an election issue is going to be in for a major shock. Only the extremist idiot left that has ALWAYS hated Trump will look at the results caused by the Pandemic and say see? Trump! I mean...that would be as stupid as looking at every other country on the planet being blasted by this and saying...see? Trump too! And Trump there. And Trump. And Trump. And there is Trump. And there. Trump...everywhere.
 
VanceMack said:
The timing of this policy was a year ago. The pandemic is the abnormal. The only reason this is being discussed is because people fought the policy...otherwise the policy would have been enacted last year.

I truly believe that anyone that is stupid enough to think they are going to be able to use the economy based on the pandemic as an election issue is going to be in for a major shock. Only the extremist idiot left that has ALWAYS hated Trump will look at the results caused by the Pandemic and say see? Trump! I mean...that would be as stupid as looking at every other country on the planet being blasted by this and saying...see? Trump too! And Trump there. And Trump. And Trump. And there is Trump. And there. Trump...everywhere.
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If Trump keeps alienating his base refusing to man up and publicly state that the "buck stops with him" rather than his "I take no responsibility" Come November you won't see ".Trump and there is Trump and there. Trump...anywhere"
 
HenryChinaski said:
If Trump keeps alienating his base refusing to man up and publicly state that the "buck stops with him" rather than his "I take no responsibility" Come November you won't see ".Trump and there is Trump and there. Trump...anywhere"
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This policy was not about alienating the base. It was about getting people out of the socialist/commie mindset that capable able bodied adults should be able to sit at home and suck up government benefits and not work. His base understand that. Most reasonable, intelligent people understand that.
 
HumblePi said:
Wow what a great Christian you are. You should give yourself a pat on the back for being such a fine, upstanding Christian. Let me just clarify what you just said. Those 700,000 are unlikely to vote for Trump in November, so they're dispensable and it's fine to just let them starve to death. Is that the gist of it? Oh, I'm sure you will receive redemption on judgement day, after-all --- you're a model Christian, aren't you?

“Looking at his disciples, he said: ‘Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. Blessed are you who hunger now, for you will be satisfied. Blessed are you who weep now, for you will laugh.’”

That's all just Jesus bull****ting, right?
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I would have thought that

"Billy Bob's Uniquely Right (wing) Christian -Thal- -Theu- -Thalu- -Thealug- Bible and Divinity School" [a wholly owned subsidiary of Billy Bob's Only True Original Fundamentalist Four-Square Evangelical Revived Reformed Revealed Biblical Church of Jesus Christ The Perfect Arisen Son Of The Living God World Awakening (Just Send Us Your Folding Money Because Worship Should Be Silent) All Aryan White Soul's Salvation, Redemption, and Witnessing Storefront Mission, B-B-Q, Gun & Body Shop. (INC)]
(minor typographical emphasis added for the hard of thinking)
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might have given you a slight clue.

Obviously I was mistaken.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Did Covid-19 kill executive orders?
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They arent at the stage where an EO is applicable...they are defending the legal challenge of a policy. And no...EO's dont have sway over courts.
 
VanceMack said:
They arent at the stage where an EO is applicable...they are defending the legal challenge of a policy. And no...EO's dont have sway over courts.
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Trump is the first president in history to shrink the size of national monuments. His entire presidency has been about pushing the limits of presidential power, but you are saying he is paralyzed when it comes to changing policy on SNAP requirements. Come the **** on man.
 
HumblePi said:
Trump Pushes to Knock Hundreds of Thousands Off of Food Stamps - Rolling StoneTrump Pushes to Knock Hundreds of Thousands Off of Food Stamps While COVID-19 Death Toll Rises

The USDA wants to remove people from food stamps regardless of the change in the employment environment from coronavirus

While U.S. unemployment claims are shattering an all-time record, due to the coronavirus pandemic, President Trump’s administration is continuing its attempts to throw hundreds of thousands off of the government food-stamp program, known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

Earlier this month, U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell ruled that a change sought by Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue was unlawful and blocked the agency from enforcing it. According to a report by the AP on Wednesday, Perdue said that the “USDA disagrees with the court’s reasoning and will appeal its decision.”

But Howell’s “reasoning” was spot-on, and Perdue’s insistence with going ahead with an appeal is heartless in the face of a pandemic.

The rule change that the USDA is looking to put in place would halt states’ abilities to waive certain federal work- and time-limit requirements for SNAP recipients. As a result, the change would remove approximately 700,000 people from SNAP rolls starting on April 1st.

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Hmm, I had a sneaky feeling that having a president that doesn't posses the key emotion of empathy might not be a great idea.
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So this is the rule that demands that able bodied SNAP recipients with no disabilities and no dependents need to work 20 hours per week to be eligible?

This case has been ongoing for months and was NOT initiated during the onslaught of the Coronavirus Outbreak.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Trump is the first president in history to shrink the size of national monuments. His entire presidency has been about pushing the limits of presidential power, but you are saying he is paralyzed when it comes to changing policy on SNAP requirements. Come the **** on man.
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:lamo

You would literally **** kittens if Trump tried to step in and stop a legal court proceeding. Of course...you **** kittens when he doesnt.
 
HumblePi said:
Trump Pushes to Knock Hundreds of Thousands Off of Food Stamps - Rolling StoneTrump Pushes to Knock Hundreds of Thousands Off of Food Stamps While COVID-19 Death Toll Rises

The USDA wants to remove people from food stamps regardless of the change in the employment environment from coronavirus

While U.S. unemployment claims are shattering an all-time record, due to the coronavirus pandemic, President Trump’s administration is continuing its attempts to throw hundreds of thousands off of the government food-stamp program, known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

Earlier this month, U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell ruled that a change sought by Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue was unlawful and blocked the agency from enforcing it. According to a report by the AP on Wednesday, Perdue said that the “USDA disagrees with the court’s reasoning and will appeal its decision.”

But Howell’s “reasoning” was spot-on, and Perdue’s insistence with going ahead with an appeal is heartless in the face of a pandemic.

The rule change that the USDA is looking to put in place would halt states’ abilities to waive certain federal work- and time-limit requirements for SNAP recipients. As a result, the change would remove approximately 700,000 people from SNAP rolls starting on April 1st.

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Hmm, I had a sneaky feeling that having a president that doesn't posses the key emotion of empathy might not be a great idea.
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The typical alpha male types are horrendously overrated.
 
HumblePi said:
Trump Pushes to Knock Hundreds of Thousands Off of Food Stamps - Rolling StoneTrump Pushes to Knock Hundreds of Thousands Off of Food Stamps While COVID-19 Death Toll Rises

The USDA wants to remove people from food stamps regardless of the change in the employment environment from coronavirus

While U.S. unemployment claims are shattering an all-time record, due to the coronavirus pandemic, President Trump’s administration is continuing its attempts to throw hundreds of thousands off of the government food-stamp program, known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

Earlier this month, U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell ruled that a change sought by Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue was unlawful and blocked the agency from enforcing it. According to a report by the AP on Wednesday, Perdue said that the “USDA disagrees with the court’s reasoning and will appeal its decision.”

But Howell’s “reasoning” was spot-on, and Perdue’s insistence with going ahead with an appeal is heartless in the face of a pandemic.

The rule change that the USDA is looking to put in place would halt states’ abilities to waive certain federal work- and time-limit requirements for SNAP recipients. As a result, the change would remove approximately 700,000 people from SNAP rolls starting on April 1st.

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Hmm, I had a sneaky feeling that having a president that doesn't posses the key emotion of empathy might not be a great idea.
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Trump is a worthless ********er.
 
VanceMack said:
If there were a mechanism to put this decision off for a few months, that would be swell. But there isnt and I doubt thats what you would like to see. But maybe Im wrong. Are you OK with this policy change being enacted...just suspended til after things get back to normal?
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sigh

The policy is wrong.

Current circumstances display one reason why the policy is deeply, deeply wrong.

Do you really not know that the COVID-19 stimulus bill includes an additional $15 billion of funding for food stamps?

Continuing to press for the change, right now, taking away food from people who need it and due to no fault of their own can't get a job, is unethical. It's kicking people when they are down.

Do you genuinely not understand that unemployment rates are about to soar, not because people don't want to work, but because they can't?

Is it that difficult to see why this is not the time to change that policy...?
 
Visbek said:
sigh

The policy is wrong.

Current circumstances display one reason why the policy is deeply, deeply wrong.

Do you really not know that the COVID-19 stimulus bill includes an additional $15 billion of funding for food stamps?

Continuing to press for the change, right now, taking away food from people who need it and due to no fault of their own can't get a job, is unethical. It's kicking people when they are down.

Do you genuinely not understand that unemployment rates are about to soar, not because people don't want to work, but because they can't?

Is it that difficult to see why this is not the time to change that policy...?
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So you believe the policy submitted a year ago that requires able bodied adults without dependents to work a minimum of 20 hours a week is 'wrong'?
 
VanceMack said:
So you believe the policy submitted a year ago that requires able bodied adults without dependents to work a minimum of 20 hours a week is 'wrong'?
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Yes it is wrong. People with jobs aren't the ones who need food.
 
VanceMack said:
So you believe the policy submitted a year ago that requires able bodied adults without dependents to work a minimum of 20 hours a week is 'wrong'?
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Yes. I already said that. What part of "The policy is wrong" did you not understand?
 
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