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Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

Winston said:
Bernie could still win :D.

Stranger things have happened this primary.

To answer the people asking who would Bernie supporters find acceptable besides Bernie. I would say Lawrence Lessig, we would find acceptable. But, the parade of wine cave schmoozers that have the temerity to call themselves Democrats is an insult to me, I don't know how you feel about it though.
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Maximus did.

But Bernie's about to be stabbed in the back a 3rd time.

That's a LOT of blood loss.

Prince Andrew it is.
 
3leftsdoo said:
When an alleged sexual assaulter is the *lesser* of two evils...

...it's time to rethink how one votes.

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Hahahaha, so sad but so true. I can see the two debating about it on TV. Biden will claim he does not remember and Trump will claim he pays them appropriately.
 
3leftsdoo said:
When an alleged sexual assaulter is the *lesser* of two evils...

...it's time to rethink how one votes.

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I voted for Hillary twice and I voted for Amy Klobuchar this time.

I think white men should sit out the presidential election for years to come. I have had enough of their sexual shenanigans. You can pretty well bet 100% that a female president would not bring this kind of baggage with her to office. Obama didn't either...no sexual scandals there. A good person all around.

But it is white males who are left standing in this election so what can you do? I won't not vote.
 
cpwill said:
Fair enough - she definitely sounds like a Bernie Sanders fan. Though I understand she started off as a Biden fan before things there went south.

Is being a Bernie Sanders fan enough to say that you should be disbelieved or looked at more skeptically when you come forward as a victim of sexual assault?
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Well, I'm not one of these SJW progressives that adheres to the "believe all accusers" bull****, so it's not a problem for me to call out her credibility.

The fact that she was brave enough a year ago to give an account of Biden being inappropriate that lacked the element of her being assaulted is interesting. What makes it go from interesting to very suspect is the fact that she is a rabid Bernie Bro, and this element of her story only shows up suddenly, after Sanders dramatic fall as the front runner is highly suspect to say the least.

Sorry, but rabid progressives have shown themselves to be capable of disgusting smear campaigns that are frankly, as vile as Trump supporters at this point.

Is it possible she's telling the truth? Yeah, but I tend to doubt it. This screams of political opportunism like what we saw against Clinton, Kavanaugh, Franken, and yes, even Trump. When an accuser just happens to be someone that has serious political differences with the accused, it's common sense to consider whether the accusation is politically based.

I'm not saying the men I cited as examples have done nothing wrong. Most of them have. But, the idea that an accused can have some accusers that are telling the truth, and others with malicious motives should not be a hard concept for us all to retain intellectually.
 
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CMPancake said:
How much credibility does someone need to have in order to believe the allegations of a sexual assault victim? Where do you personally place that bar?



I'm not a Trump supporter, not by a long shot. However, this thread is not about my politics. This thread is about Joe Biden and the allegations against him of sexual assault.



This thread is not about Donald Trump and the allegations against him. If you want to make a thread about so, I'll happily engage. Please stay on topic.



Reade's political views should not determine the credibility of her allegations. Please don't disparage a potential victim of sexual assault.
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Ultimately it is about an election where one must compare the virtues and abilities of Donald Trump to those of Joe Biden. Anyone that would vote for Trump but question the morality or integrity of Joe Biden has NO moral authority do so. I am not interested in an indecent person (as anyone who would vote for Trump has shown the basic human decency and integrity is not an issue for them *, hence they are indecent themselves) questioning the morality of the other guy. They (and by extension you) have zero credibility on this matter.

If someone of respect raises this issue, it would be worth a thought.... but no political operatives trying to deflect for the aberrant moral shortcomings of their candidate.... and their mindless minions that further that cause.

Stick to an issue upon which you have some credibility. This is not one of them.


* - exception - those that regularly called out Trump's indecent behavior .... but, I have never seen a Trump voter do so.
 
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upsideguy said:
Ultimately it is about an election where one must compare the virtues and abilities of Donald Trump to those of Joe Biden.
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You're setting yourself to determine the virtue of two people with credible accusations of sexual assault. This is exactly why Liberals are always so prone to losing.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Democrat response to sexual assault allegation against Biden = Deflect!!!

:donkeyfla
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And your response to 25 women accusing the Tangerine Turd of sexual assault? They are all liars no doubt. Deflect my ass.
 
CMPancake said:
You're setting yourself to determine the virtue of two people with credible accusations of sexual assault. This is exactly why Liberals are always so prone to losing.
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25 women. Next.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Give it time. Accusers will pop out of thin air.
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That they will. Regardless of the credibility of the accusations, I figured that they would come out.

Not taking a side on this one or future ones yet, just predicting that some if not all of them will be manufactured.
 
Winston said:
You see no evidence of Bernie's strength because you have a conviction that America won't choose a socialist on the grounds that socialism is a distasteful ideology. Since Booker couldn't mount a challenge to Bernie in the primary, yet you view him a stronger candidate than Bernie what sort of "evidence" are you basing your posts from?
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If you had only stopped with your first seven words, you would have been honest for a change. ;)
 
Top Cat said:
25 women. Next.
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So does Biden need to sexually harass and/or assault 25 women for you to care, or do you just not care because Biden is a democrat.
 
CMPancake said:
Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993 | HuffPost



The bolded above is the most disturbing part to me. The cult-like behavior Biden stans have to bully and silence a potential victim of sexual assault is abhorrent and should be condemned.
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Given that this is the "Me Too" era, this must be believed and must be true. So why aren't democrats and women's rights activist going crazy over this and wanting Joe to drop out of the race. I know why, he is a democrat and democrats never hold their own to the same standards. Requiremnet #1 for being a democrat. Must be a hypocrite with no moral or ethical standards that you can not and will not change at a moments notice for political gain.
 
Phys251 said:
If you had only stopped with your first seven words, you would have been honest for a change. ;)
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You want to be honest about centrism losing to a game show host? Didn't think so.
 
MovingPictures said:
Well, I'm not one of these SJW progressives that adheres to the "believe all accusers" bull****, so it's not a problem for me to call out her credibility.
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Ah, but you know who did come out in favor of that position?

Joe Biden. :)


The fact that she was brave enough a year ago to give an account of Biden being inappropriate that lacked the element of her being assaulted is interesting. What makes it go from interesting to very suspect is the fact that she is a rabid Bernie Bro, and this element of her story only shows up suddenly, after Sanders dramatic fall as the front runner is highly suspect to say the least.
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Hm. And were you equally highly suspect when Ford only suddenly remembered that Kavanaugh had raped her when he got out forward as a potential SCOTUS justice?

Does the news since then that she was motivated by the desire to "put an asterisk next to his name in case he ever ruled on ROE" impact that suspicion?




Sorry, but rabid progressives have shown themselves to be capable of disgusting smear campaigns that are frankly, as vile as Trump supporters at this point.
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Along with moderate progressives. People are generally awful, and tribalism encourages that.

Is it possible she's telling the truth? Yeah, but I tend to doubt it. This screams of political opportunism like what we saw against Clinton, Kavanaugh, Franken, and yes, even Trump. When an accuser just happens to be someone that has serious political differences with the accused, it's common sense to consider whether the accusation is politically based.
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This woman was a staffer for Biden, and is still a member of the same party. I don't think there is as much a political difference.

I'm not saying the men I cited as examples have done nothing wrong. Most of them have. But, the idea that an accused can have some accusers that are telling the truth, and others with malicious motives should not be a hard concept for us all to retain intellectually.
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Solid Concur. I would also point out, however, that we are naturally quicker to reach for that explanation when the person being accused is someone we support politically.
 
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Winston said:
You want to be honest about centrism losing to a game show host? Didn't think so.
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Reading some of yours and others' posts here, I'm getting the sense that some Sanders supporters want the accusation to be credible. After all, y'all are all about burning down the house, even when it's already on fire. Maybe y'all just want to finish America off. Who knows with you people any more. :shrug:
 
Phys251 said:
Reading some of yours and others' posts here, I'm getting the sense that some Sanders supporters want the accusation to be credible. After all, y'all are all about burning down the house, even when it's already on fire. Maybe y'all just want to finish America off. Who knows with you people any more. :shrug:
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Like all things, I want what is true to surface and for that truth to be widely known and accepted by Americans. It's got nothing to do with political convenience.
 
CMPancake said:
You're setting yourself to determine the virtue of two people with credible accusations of sexual assault. This is exactly why Liberals are always so prone to losing.
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....and yet, Bernie Sanders got trounced by a “liberal”.

After making numerous unforced errors, like going on about how, gee, a brutal communist dictatorship does some nice stuff.
 
Winston said:
Like all things, I want what is true to surface and for that truth to be widely known and accepted by Americans. It's got nothing to do with political convenience.
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Right, right. Your ilk has been itching for something like this to come forward. Now it's happened and y'all are giddy about it. Just look at the Likes on this thread for proof.
 
Phys251 said:
Right, right. Your ilk has been itching for something like this to come forward. Now it's happened and y'all are giddy about it. Just look at the Likes on this thread for proof.
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All I want is for what is true to come out. I have no love for Biden, I think he represents a failed and discredited ideology. But, if he represents a failed and discredited ideology on top of being a rapist. Come on, man. You think that's valuable information to Republicans?
 
Winston said:
All I want is for what is true to come out.
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That was the precise excuse given by anti-Democratic "progressives" when they suckled Wikileaks' teet. What they really want, then and now, is to burn the "establishment" house down. And they have shown no evidence of anything else. :)

I have no love for Biden, I think he represents a failed and discredited ideology. But, if he represents a failed and discredited ideology on top of being a rapist. Come on, man. You think that's valuable information to Republicans?
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You think that people weren't going to come out with accusations against him? Unlike you, I'm keeping my options open. That this accuser has a political motive is a red flag.
 
Phys251 said:
That was the precise excuse given by anti-Democratic "progressives" when they suckled Wikileaks' teet. What they really want, then and now, is to burn the "establishment" house down. And they have shown no evidence of anything else. :)
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Not getting into wikileaks in this thread. Or, burning down the political power structure. Yes, we want the truth to come out. Just like we wanted Alabama to elect the non-rapey candidate to the Senate. If even Alabama could make the right choice, can you?



You think that people weren't going to come out with accusations against him? Unlike you, I'm keeping my options open. That this accuser has a political motive is a red flag.
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I said I want the truth to come out. If the truth is it's bogus, then it's bogus and harmful to all truthful accusers. If it's real, then I think you know the consequences. You lose the moral high ground on grabbin 'em by the ***** to Donald Trump.
 
Winston said:
Not getting into wikileaks in this thread. Or, burning down the political power structure. Yes, we want the truth to come out. Just like we wanted Alabama to elect the non-rapey candidate to the Senate. If even Alabama could make the right choice, can you?
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So you can't deny it. Face it, Saint Bernard has been all about burning down "the establishment." And anti-democrats (lower-case D) know it. Why do you think Russian trolls supported his 2016 campaign? ;)

I said I want the truth to come out. If the truth is it's bogus, then it's bogus and harmful to all truthful accusers. If it's real, then I think you know the consequences. You lose the moral high ground on grabbin 'em by the ***** to Donald Trump.
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You still don't get it. Your desire is not for the truth and the whole truth. Deep down, you and other progressives have been looking for something, anything to take down Joe. And you believe that you've found it. So don't confuse yourself by pretending that truth is really your goal here. :)
 
Tigerace117 said:
....and yet, Bernie Sanders got trounced by a “liberal”.

After making numerous unforced errors, like going on about how, gee, a brutal communist dictatorship does some nice stuff.
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Enjoy your rapist candidate losing the 2020 Presidential election. Don't say I didn't warn you.
 
Phys251 said:
So you can't deny it. Face it, Saint Bernard has been all about burning down "the establishment." And anti-democrats (lower-case D) know it. Why do you think Russian trolls supported his 2016 campaign? ;)



You still don't get it. Your desire is not for the truth and the whole truth. Deep down, you and other progressives have been looking for something, anything to take down Joe. And you believe that you've found it. So don't confuse yourself by pretending that truth is really your goal here. :)
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Stop telling me what I want and what I believe.
 
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