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Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

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Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993 | HuffPost

A former aide to Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden said this week that he sexually assaulted her in 1993, her most detailed account to date of his alleged inappropriate behavior.

Tara Reade, who was at the time serving as an aide in Biden’s senate office, told podcast host Katie Halper that Biden kissed her and penetrated her with his fingers without her consent. Reade said she pushed Biden off of her and he allegedly became annoyed and said: “Come on, man! I heard you liked me.”

“It was like everything shattered in that moment,” Reade told Halper in the interview, which was posted Wednesday. “He was, like, my father’s age. He was this champion of women’s rights in my eyes. I couldn’t believe it was happening.”

Reade alleges that after she pulled away from Biden, he pointed in her face and said, “You’re nothing to me.”

Last April, Reade was one of eight women to accuse the former vice president of inappropriate touching. Reade told the Intercept’s Ryan Grim this week that she only told the media part of her story at the time because she received an onslaught of harassment that instantly quieted her.
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The bolded above is the most disturbing part to me. The cult-like behavior Biden stans have to bully and silence a potential victim of sexual assault is abhorrent and should be condemned.
 
Not surprising really. Democrats have a tendency to mistake candidates' personal sense of entitlement with "strong leadership"
 
Drawdown said:
Not surprising really. Democrats have a tendency to mistake candidates' personal sense of entitlement with "strong leadership"
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Never say that about Democrats as long as you know what Donald Trump does.
 
CMPancake said:
Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993 | HuffPost



The bolded above is the most disturbing part to me. The cult-like behavior Biden stans have to bully and silence a potential victim of sexual assault is abhorrent and should be condemned.
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Lot's of projection in that statement.... "cult-like????" Really.

I suggest you remove the skyscraper from your own eyes (I suspect you would support Trump) before you worry about the splinter's in others. In other words, you have long since surrendered your moral authority since you are more than happy to engage or sanction such behaviors yourself. Pathetic.

Drawdown said:
Not surprising really. Democrats have a tendency to mistake candidates' personal sense of entitlement with "strong leadership"
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You as well
 
upsideguy said:
Lot's of projection in that statement.... "cult-like????" Really.

I suggest you remove the skyscraper from your own eyes (I suspect you would support Trump) before you worry about the splinter's in others. In other words, you have long since lost your credibility to worry about the moral short-comings of others since you are more than happy to engage in such (via proxy) yourself.
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Just say you don't actually care about sexual assault and move on.
 
CMPancake said:
Just say you don't actually care about sexual assault and move on.
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No, but you lack the standing to even bring up this issue. I will await from someone with credibility to suggest there is something to see here.

For one, if this were a sincere concern of yours (and everyone here knows its not), you wouldn't be Trump supporter...

The 25 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct - Business Insider

Meanwhile, I would be more concerned about the 10's of thousands of deaths that Trump's negligence may have caused. That seems a much bigger election issue to me (besides the 25 allegations of sexual misconduct).
 
CMPancake said:
Just say you don't actually care about sexual assault and move on.
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Is this the same aide as in Zimmers' week old thread above? asking for a friend before they go to the trouble of getting all worked up again.

Or does Biden have twenty accusers waiting in the wings, like Trump does?
 
upsideguy said:
No, but you lack the standing to even bring up this issue. I will await from someone with credibility to suggest there is something to see here.
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How much credibility does someone need to have in order to believe the allegations of a sexual assault victim? Where do you personally place that bar?

upsideguy said:
For one, if this were a sincere concern of yours (and everyone here knows its not), you wouldn't be Trump supporter...
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I'm not a Trump supporter, not by a long shot. However, this thread is not about my politics. This thread is about Joe Biden and the allegations against him of sexual assault.

upsideguy said:
The 25 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct - Business Insider

Meanwhile, I would be more concerned about the 10's of thousands of deaths that Trump's negligence may have caused. That seems a much bigger election issue to me (besides the 25 allegations of sexual misconduct).
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This thread is not about Donald Trump and the allegations against him. If you want to make a thread about so, I'll happily engage. Please stay on topic.

Tigerace117 said:
Someone who describes Vladimir Putin as a “compassionate, caring, visionary leader”, as Reid did, automatically has a higher bar of credibility to clear.
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Reade's political views should not determine the credibility of her allegations. Please don't disparage a potential victim of sexual assault.
 
CMPancake said:
How much credibility does someone need to have in order to believe the allegations of a sexual assault victim? Where do you personally place that bar?



I'm not a Trump supporter, not by a long shot. However, this thread is not about my politics. This thread is about Joe Biden and the allegations against him of sexual assault.



This thread is not about Donald Trump and the allegations against him. If you want to make a thread about so, I'll happily engage. Please stay on topic.



Reade's political views should not determine the credibility of her allegations. Please don't disparage a potential victim of sexual assault.
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If someone goes on and on about how Hitler wasn’t so bad, or how Stalin was really a hero, then that absolutely does affect their credibility. I would hope someone wouldn’t lie about such a thing, but I absolutely believe that someone who admires KGB Vlad that much would be willing to do so.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Is this the same aide as in Zimmers' week old thread above? asking for a friend before they go to the trouble of getting all worked up again.
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I don't know, I don't follow Zimmer or his threads. However, the OP has a link to the story.

Manc Skipper said:
Or does Biden have twenty accusers waiting in the wings, like Trump does?
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How many allegations of sexual assault would Joe Biden need to have in order to believe Tara Reade?
 
CMPancake said:
I don't know, I don't follow Zimmer or his threads. However, the OP has a link to the story.



How many allegations of sexual assault would Joe Biden need to have in order to believe Tara Reade?
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How many threads on the same topic? It's an age old conundrum..
 
Tigerace117 said:
If someone goes on and on about how Hitler wasn’t so bad, or how Stalin was really a hero, then that absolutely does affect their credibility. I would hope someone wouldn’t lie about such a thing, but I absolutely believe that someone who admires KGB Vlad that much would be willing to do so.
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That's not how treating sexual assault allegations work for decent people. If all it took for you to doubt an allegation of sexual assault was one quote about Putin then it's obvious that you weren't all too concerned about the sexual assault at all.
 
Manc Skipper said:
How many threads on the same topic? It's an age old conundrum..
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It seems like you're more concerned that people are sharing the allegations instead of the actual allegations.
 
CMPancake said:
That's not how treating sexual assault allegations work for decent people. If all it took for you to doubt an allegation of sexual assault was one quote about Putin then it's obvious that you weren't all too concerned about the sexual assault at all.
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Again, like I said before fawning over brutal dictators means that a higher burden of proof is required. What we have here is someone who was in the tank for Bernie all the way, who, as I said, fawned over KGB Vlad, and whose story has been mainly pushed by Glenn “Let’s ignore the people of Mali desperately begging for help to fight against Islamic terrorists because the West is bad” Greenwald and the Intercept.

That, for baseball fans, consists of strikes one, two and three.
 
CMPancake said:
It seems like you're more concerned that people are sharing the allegations instead of the actual allegations.
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The allegations are weak, and not credible.

But you Bernie supporters are working extra hard to get Trump re-elected.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Again, like I said before fawning over brutal dictators means that a higher burden of proof is required.
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If Tara Reade mirrored your political beliefs would her allegations as they are now be more valid in your eyes?


Tigerace117 said:
What we have here is someone who was in the tank for Bernie all the way, who, as I said, fawned over KGB Vlad, and whose story has been mainly pushed by Glenn “Let’s ignore the people of Mali desperately begging for help to fight against Islamic terrorists because the West is bad” Greenwald and the Intercept.

That, for baseball fans, consists of strikes one, two and three.
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What we have here is someone trying to bully and silence a potential victim of sexual assault because it's politically inconvenient. I wish I can say this is a "mask off" moment, but it's to be expected.

Puigb said:
The allegations are weak, and not credible.

But you Bernie supporters are working extra hard to get Trump re-elected.
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It's called standards. I do not want someone who has credible allegations of sexual assault levied against them to be the President of the United States. It's really not a surprise that you don't actually care about sexual assault.
 
If it's true what she said, then go after Biden and prosecute him.

But for crying out loud, Trump has already set the standard for this type of behavior and obviously sexual assault of females doesn't matter when you are running for President or when you are President.

So get real. Trump followers have NO leg to stand on in this matter.
 
CMPancake said:
If Tara Reade mirrored your political beliefs would her allegations as they are now be more valid in your eyes?




What we have here is someone trying to bully and silence a potential victim of sexual assault because it's politically inconvenient. I wish I can say this is a "mask off" moment, but it's to be expected.



It's called standards. I do not want someone who has credible allegations of sexual assault levied against them to be the President of the United States. It's really not a surprise that you don't actually care about sexual assault.
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The problem is the allegations aren't credible.

On the other hand, the allegations against the current president, which includes 15+ women, are very credible, especially since it coincides with an actual behavioral pattern, and Trump's own admission that he could sexually assault women cause he's supposedly rich and powerful.

As I said, you're handing the presidency and the SC into Trump and the GOP's hands.
 
CMPancake said:
If Tara Reade mirrored your political beliefs would her allegations as they are now be more valid in your eyes?




What we have here is someone trying to bully and silence a potential victim of sexual assault because it's politically inconvenient. I wish I can say this is a "mask off" moment, but it's to be expected.



It's called standards. I do not want someone who has credible allegations of sexual assault levied against them to be the President of the United States. It's really not a surprise that you don't actually care about sexual assault.
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What we have here is someone whose story noticeably changed significantly over time, who has.......disreputable beliefs, and who is being pushed largely by a source which is likewise disreputable......but since Bernie’s supporters are still pissed he’s been trounced by Biden they are in full blown self righteous indignation mode that anyone would question the straw they are grasping.
 
Just as a running tally, the response from Liberals has been:

A) The victim should not be trusted because she has questionable political beliefs. B) It shouldn't matter because Donald Trump has more sexual assault allegations. And C) We shouldn't talk about this sexual assault allegation because Donald Trump needs to lose the election.

I thought in 2016 Liberals decided that they were better than this, and that victims of sexual assault should have their allegations taken seriously. Continuing to support a candidate with an infamous history of inapporpirately touching people is dangerous and only goes to aide in Donald Trump's reelection.
 
I think Biden may have performed a Quid Poke Quo.
 
Tigerace117 said:
What we have here is someone whose story noticeably changed significantly over time,
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Tara Reade's allegations have not changed over time. Please do not dishonestly slander a potential victim of sexual assault.

Tigerace117 said:
who has.......disreputable beliefs,
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You're attempting to poison the well of a potential victim of sexual assault. You need to take a step back and see just how poor the optics are on that.

Tigerace117 said:
and who is being pushed largely by a source which is likewise disreputable......
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The story has been picked up by Media from both left and right-wing spectrums. What media source do you need to publish this story in order to take the allegations seriously?

Tigerace117 said:
but since Bernie’s supporters are still pissed he’s been trounced by Biden they are in full blown self righteous indignation mode that anyone would question the straw they are grasping.
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This isn't a matter of elections, or ideology. You're attempting to bury a sexual assault allegation for no real reason but to defend the accused. Reade was hesitant to speak publicly of her sexual assault because of people like yourself.
 
CMPancake said:
Just as a running tally, the response from Liberals has been:

A) The victim should not be trusted because she has questionable political beliefs. B) It shouldn't matter because Donald Trump has more sexual assault allegations. And C) We shouldn't talk about this sexual assault allegation because Donald Trump needs to lose the election.

I thought in 2016 Liberals decided that they were better than this, and that victims of sexual assault should have their allegations taken seriously. Continuing to support a candidate with an infamous history of inapporpirately touching people is dangerous and only goes to aide in Donald Trump's reelection.
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Those on the right don't give two ****s about women.
 
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