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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    How many threads on the same topic? It's an age old conundrum..
    Odd how you don't seem to mind the thousands of Trump threads on the same topic.
    That's different though, right?
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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Quote Originally Posted by hermit View Post
    If it's true what she said, then go after Biden and prosecute him.

    But for crying out loud, Trump has already set the standard for this type of behavior and obviously sexual assault of females doesn't matter when you are running for President or when you are President.

    So get real. Trump followers have NO leg to stand on in this matter.
    OH, okay, we can play this game: Does that mean that Democrats, given their defense of Bill Clinton, are wrong to point out Trump's many abuses?

    OR

    And, agreeably, this is sort of a radical position, so, stick with me for a second on it....


    What if it's bad, no matter who's doing it?

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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Anything any Democrat is ever alleged to have done to a woman is not a problem anymore because TRUMP!

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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post
    Someone who describes Vladimir Putin as a “compassionate, caring, visionary leader”, as Reid did, automatically has a higher bar of credibility to clear.
    I have not seen anyone link this, though I have seen accusations of her support for/love for Putin fall apart upon inspection (specifically, Tansgrinnr's attempt to claim she was a nutcase on Dr Phil). Generally you are pretty credible, though - do you have a link to this statement by her?

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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Honestly the coverage regarding this is not dissimilar to the mental gymnastics the media and punditsphere demonstrated in excusing and minimizing Bloomberg's own missteps with women back when he was thought to be the only viable moderate alternative to Sanders; sadly all the more evidence that establishment Dems and their allies only really seem to care about championing women and speaking out against sexual assault so long as it can be weaponized or otherwise leveraged to service their political ends and is as a stance totally disposable when inconvenient, even going so far as to smear apparent victims.
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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I have not seen anyone link this, though I have seen accusations of her support for/love for Putin fall apart upon inspection (specifically, Tansgrinnr's attempt to claim she was a nutcase on Dr Phil). Generally you are pretty credible, though - do you have a link to this statement by her?
    The Intercept article mentions it— don’t know if any other sources have mentioned it, but she didn’t deny writing the article.

    Time’s Up Declines to Fund Joe Biden #MeToo Allegation

    “ The references to Dovere, a reporter with The Atlantic, and Painter stem from their Twitter posts that highlighted favorable comments Reade had made about Putin in a now-deleted post on Medium. “What if I told you that everything you learned about Russia was wrong?” she had written in one 2018 post. “President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader. … To President Putin, I say keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love. To all my Russian friends, happy holiday and Happy New Year.””

    She apparently tried to justify her comments by invoking “imperialism” and “skepticism of American exceptionalism”.

    The irony of using “imperialism” as an excuse to support Vladimir Putin, while ignoring his Crimean adventure, apparently still hasn’t registered with some on the left.
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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    OH, okay, we can play this game: Does that mean that Democrats, given their defense of Bill Clinton, are wrong to point out Trump's many abuses?

    OR

    And, agreeably, this is sort of a radical position, so, stick with me for a second on it....


    What if it's bad, no matter who's doing it?
    Of course it's bad no matter who's doing it.

    I said prosecute Biden if he did something wrong. But to me it's a double standard. Trump set the bar. Clinton was a long time ago and who care? Kennedy was a womanizer as well and that was yesterday.

    Trump is today. And if he can grab 'em by the pu**y and be accused of countless situations of sexual assault, and nobody cares enough to boot him from office (let alone put him in office in the first place), then anything goes.

    No man should get a pass for sexually mistreating females but it happens ALL the time. So let's transform our entire society, I'm all for that. But in the meantime, if Trump gets pass after pass, then so does Biden.
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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Tara Reade's allegations have not changed over time. Please do not dishonestly slander a potential victim of sexual assault.



    You're attempting to poison the well of a potential victim of sexual assault. You need to take a step back and see just how poor the optics are on that.



    The story has been picked up by Media from both left and right-wing spectrums. What media source do you need to publish this story in order to take the allegations seriously?



    This isn't a matter of elections, or ideology. You're attempting to bury a sexual assault allegation for no real reason but to defend the accused. Reade was hesitant to speak publicly of her sexual assault because of people like yourself.
    It’s.....interesting how she didn’t actually include the claim of assault last year when she first came forwards. Like I said before, her story has shifted....funnily enough, right along with the rapidly declining chances of Bernie Sanders being the nominee.

    Funny how that works.

    We’ve already established that it’s supposedly okay to go on about what good things a brutal communist dictatorship does this election season, so I’m not too concerned about “optics”.

    Again, my main point is that the situation requires a higher standard of proof than normal due to, amongst other factors, the alleged victim’s sketchy political beliefs and praise of a brutal dictator.

    Funny how her “hesitancy” disappeared along with Bernie’s chances.

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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Quote Originally Posted by hermit View Post
    Of course it's bad no matter who's doing it.

    I said prosecute Biden if he did something wrong. But to me it's a double standard.
    People who excuse Clinton and Trump's behavior are absolutely being hypocrites, and showing that they value tribalism more than actually protecting women from sexual predators when they excuse or seek to defend "their" guys for it.

    Trump set the bar.
    No - Trump failed to clear the bar. Simply because someone wins an election does not mean their previous actions were moral or acceptable.

    Clinton was a long time ago and who care?
    Probably his victims.

    Kennedy was a womanizer as well and that was yesterday.
    Not really with the people around today, and yes, that should definitely tarnish Kennedy's memory.

    Trump is today. And if he can grab 'em by the pu**y and be accused of countless situations of sexual assault, and nobody cares enough to boot him from office (or even put him in office in the first place), then anything goes.
    No, it doesn't. One abuse does not excuse another simply because that other happens to be a member of a different tribe.


    No man should get a pass for sexually mistreating females but it happens ALL the time. So let's transform our entire society, I'm all for that. But in the meantime, if Trump gets pass after pass, then so does Biden.
    Then your moral compass is as broken as those you complain about. Why is Trump bad and unacceptable, if you are suddenly willing to accept it on your own side?

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    Re: Joe Biden Accused Of Sexually Assaulting Senate Aide In 1993

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    People who excuse Clinton and Trump's behavior are absolutely being hypocrites, and showing that they value tribalism more than actually protecting women from sexual predators when they excuse or seek to defend "their" guys for it.



    No - Trump failed to clear the bar. Simply because someone wins an election does not mean their previous actions were moral or acceptable.



    Probably his victims.



    Not really with the people around today, and yes, that should definitely tarnish Kennedy's memory.



    No, it doesn't. One abuse does not excuse another simply because that other happens to be a member of a different tribe.




    Then your moral compass is as broken as those you complain about. Why is Trump bad and unacceptable, if you are suddenly willing to accept it on your own side?
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