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Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

3leftsdoo said:
No partisan BS from me - I despise both parties.

And all that's being debated is whether the victim should be attacked this way or that way.

No thank you!

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Her story is being criticized. When you present a story with contradictions and that has evidence against it, those contradictions and that evidence should come out. That is how our justice system works.

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3leftsdoo said:
People do seemingly strange things, including waiting long times to report rape. People = Strange :shrug: Link?
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They dont normally praise someone who they believed sexually assaulted them for being a hero for sexual assault victims. There is no purpose in doing that. No one has to do that, especially decades later when it has no impact on your life or wellbeing not to do something like that.

Waiting to report is common and psychological.

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trixare4kids said:
What happened to #metoo ?

:ssst: Whatever happened to women should be believed?
Seems like some from the left speak with a forked tongue.
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Show where I've said women should always be believed.

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vesper said:
After what the Left was willing to do to Justice Kavanaugh to stop his nomination is proof that it is all about politics. Until they hold Biden to the same standards they verify the fact they are a party of double standards. In other words they have no standards.
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And those on the right defended Kavanaugh completely through, arguing all sorts of things that they are now presenting as "oh she must be telling the truth". Hypocrisy is evident on both sides of this one.

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roguenuke said:
Still nothing. So far you have yet to counter anything actually posted related to debating this topic. You have repeatedly attempted to smear, blame, mislabel Dems, but that is pretty much it.

Do you believe Reade? Why?

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Because she is a woman
#believeallwomen #metoo
Isnt that the democrats marching orders. Why has that standard been chsnged now that its a prominent democrat on the recieving end of a suspicious allegation?
Why are Democrats willing to risk electing a serial rapist and child molester to the highest office of the land os my question?

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jmotivator said:
Well, clearly we need Senate hearings and we need Joe Biden grilled in front of cameras for hours on end. Then when he gets angry we can all act in utter astonishment at the impropriety of such emotions from a potential national leader.
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Dont forget that we also need the media to badger members of congress to condemn Biden

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trouble13 said:
Because she is a woman
#believeallwomen #metoo
Isnt that the democrats marching orders. Why has that standard been chsnged now that its a prominent democrat on the recieving end of a suspicious allegation?
Why are Democrats willing to risk electing a serial rapist and child molester to the highest office of the land os my question?

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Republicans already did that with Trump according to the terms Republicans have set up for Biden on this thread if we are judging people on their Party.

I, on the other hand, see people as people not Party when it comes to their views. Not all who vote for Biden support completely believing every accusation of sexual assault made. Just as I don't believe Trump supporters all truly believe this claim. Many likely see the flaws in it. Just as not all Dems believed Ford.

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roguenuke said:
Interesting how you have no real argument about this actual topic, just attempts to paint Dems poorly.

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I am sure he probably touched her, He is a very touchy feel type of person. I know more women who are touchy feely , but it's not unknown for men.
 
roguenuke said:
Trump is the absolutely worst President in my lifetime, probably at least the last 100 years. Hillary at least would have ensured we kept strong alliances with other countries, would have gotten help early on (almost certainly) for testing, etc for covid19, would not have been basically a jackass.

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Trump = Probably the 5th best president of the last hundred years

You mentioned your age, which means your political consciousness likely began in the Clinton era, so keep in mind that Bush II is one of the most depraved war criminals in human history; the assertion that Trump is somehow worse is incomprehensible.

Obama was also a monster, though not on Bush II's level, and Hillary a rape-cheerleading, death-drunk sociopath.

Trump is vastly superior to both men - and Hillary - and may be most closely associated with Clinton among presidents of whom you have awareness.

Other presidents worse - in some cases vastly worse - than Trump over the past century include:

Harding
Roosevelt
Truman (another of the worst war criminals in human history)
Kennedy
Johnson (monstrous war criminal and withering bigot)
Nixon (depraved mass murderer)

If you go back farther than 100 years, the list of more horrible presidents gets even longer, including (but not limited to) Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Johnson, Grant, McKinley, Roosevelt and Wilson.

Trump is middling at WORST.
 
roguenuke said:
Her story is being criticized. When you present a story with contradictions and that has evidence against it, those contradictions and that evidence should come out. That is how our justice system works.

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As long as those who are attacking and demeaning her did the same with Ford, I see no inconsistency.
 
3leftsdoo said:
As long as those who are attacking and demeaning her did the same with Ford, I see no inconsistency.
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You are claiming attacks and demeaning against those who are simply pointing out flaws in her story, inconsistencies in what she has said.

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3leftsdoo said:
Trump = Probably the 5th best president of the last hundred years

You mentioned your age, which means your political consciousness likely began in the Clinton era, so keep in mind that Bush II is one of the most depraved war criminals in human history; the assertion that Trump is somehow worse is incomprehensible.

Obama was also a monster, though not on Bush II's level, and Hillary a rape-cheerleading, death-drunk sociopath.

Trump is vastly superior to both men - and Hillary - and may be most closely associated with Clinton among presidents of whom you have awareness.

Other presidents worse - in some cases vastly worse - than Trump over the past century include:

Harding
Roosevelt
Truman (another of the worst war criminals in human history)
Kennedy
Johnson (monstrous war criminal and withering bigot)
Nixon (depraved mass murderer)

If you go back farther than 100 years, the list of more horrible presidents gets even longer, including (but not limited to) Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Johnson, Grant, McKinley, Roosevelt and Wilson.

Trump is middling at WORST.
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All opinions, not shared by any majority of historians.

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roguenuke said:
They dont normally praise someone who they believed sexually assaulted them for being a hero for sexual assault victims. There is no purpose in doing that. No one has to do that, especially decades later when it has no impact on your life or wellbeing not to do something like that.

Waiting to report is common and psychological.

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Don't they? I've seen that and vastly stranger things.
 
roguenuke said:
You are claiming attacks and demeaning against those who are simply pointing out flaws in her story, inconsistencies in what she has said.

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You say tomato, I say rotten tomato thrown hard at her face to silence, humiliate and destroy her, putting any other victims of Biden in fear of likewise speaking up.
 
roguenuke said:
All opinions, not shared by any majority of historians.

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:shrug:

Different historians, different opinions.

Mainstream historians without integrity & dependent on pleasing the oligarchy toe the line of brutal empire.

Bashing Trump is an infantile liberal fad grown into a dangerous movement with destructive implications of vast scope.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Don't they? I've seen that and vastly stranger things.
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Then show us please someone who had nothing to lose by simply not saying anything about their assaulter, praise that assaulter. Note, should not involve a relationship and domestic abuse, since that is different psychologically speaking.

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3leftsdoo said:
:shrug:

Different historians, different opinions.

Mainstream historians without integrity & dependent on pleasing the oligarchy toe the line of brutal empire.

Bashing Trump is an infantile liberal fad grown into a dangerous movement with destructive implications of vast scope.
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Yet you engage in bashing anyone and everyone against Trump, yet bashing him is an infantile fad?

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3leftsdoo said:
You say tomato, I say rotten tomato thrown hard at her face to silence, humiliate and destroy her, putting any other victims of Biden in fear of likewise speaking up.
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Others have spoken out about Biden, and none have said he assaulted them, only that he basically inappropriately invaded their personal space, the same thing this accuse claimed until very recently.

What attacks exactly have been made against her? How is she harmed by them?

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trouble13 said:
Dont forget that we also need the media to badger members of congress to condemn Biden
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Yep, no matter what else is happening in the world or the country, every Democrat must be asked if they condemn Biden for rape... because he did it, and if they point out the lack of evidence then clearly the are woman hating misogynists (or Aunt Tomina if they are women) who think all women should be raped.

As crazy as that sentence is, that is exactly the bull**** environment that the Democrats and their thralls imposed during the Kavanaugh hearings.

Democrats are disgusting.
 
jmotivator said:
Yep, no matter what else is happening in the world or the country, every Democrat must be asked if they condemn Biden for rape... because he did it, and if they point out the lack of evidence then clearly the are woman hating misogynists (or Aunt Tomina if they are women) who think all women should be raped.

As crazy as that sentence is, that is exactly the bull**** environment that the Democrats and their thralls imposed during the Kavanaugh hearings.

Democrats are disgusting.
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What's even more disgusting is being so weak as to be compelled to lie about what the Democrats and Biden actually did.

Meh. Par for the course for twump sycophants. There is no bottom in their pathological lust to rationalize away the evil that is twump.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
What's even more disgusting is being so weak as to be compelled to lie about what the Democrats and Biden actually did.

Meh. Par for the course for twump sycophants. There is no bottom in their pathological lust to rationalize away the evil that is twump.
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The funny thing about your statement is that I have been parodying the Democrats behavior during Kavanaugh hearings. If you don't like what you see then you should turn away from the mirror.
 
jmotivator said:
The funny thing about your statement is that I have been parodying the Democrats behavior during Kavanaugh hearings. If you don't like what you see then you should turn away from the mirror.
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The funnier thing is that you think you have been, but you've simply been exposing your own ignorance and laughable dishonesty.

Like I said, with twump sycophants, there is no bottom.

Thanks for proving my point and it's fun to see you utterly unable to demonstrate your asinine claim about hypocrisy.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
The funnier thing is that you think you have been, but you've simply been exposing your own ignorance and laughable dishonesty.

Like I said, with twump sycophants, there is no bottom.

Thanks for proving my point and it's fun to see you utterly unable to demonstrate your asinine claim about hypocrisy.
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Hah, no. You are living a lie to cover for a miscreant band of disgusting people who would do anything for power.

YOu cheer the destruction of good people for political gain. It's absolutely disgusting, and it is all that the Democrats are anymore.
 
jmotivator said:
Hah, no. You are living a lie to cover for a miscreant band of disgusting people who would do anything for power.

YOu cheer the destruction of good people for political gain. It's absolutely disgusting, and it is all that the Democrats are anymore.
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Sad to see that you hate America so much and live in Happy Backwards Upside Down Land.

Your god is a lifelong mobster and criminal, and nothing he could ever do would change your opinion of him or your desperation to exalt him.

You just keep on proving that there is no bottom.

Thanks!
 
vesper said:
After what the Left was willing to do to Justice Kavanaugh to stop his nomination is proof that it is all about politics. Until they hold Biden to the same standards they verify the fact they are a party of double standards. In other words they have no standards.
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Pretty much says it all.
 
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