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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I agree that they dont really match stories or names (although the accuser has admitted she has changed her name and posts under a pseudonym due to past domestic violence issues).

    However there are some legitimate reasons to question the accuser. For one, her current story does not match the story she sent out last year, even if you consider that she claims to have not wanted to reveal everything at that time. She claimed then that she was used to being the center of attention, admired for her looks and it was someone else who pointed out, protested her serving drinks because Biden found her attractive, yet now her claim is that that incident made her uncomfortable then and all the women she worked with said to go along with it, encouraged her to just do it. She also stated back then that there was no sexuality, no sexual assault to what he did, that it made her feel uncomfortable and that he was exerting power over her and all she wanted was for him to admit to that and apologize. She even stated that her issue with it was she saw herself as an alpha so it felt like him touching her in public (on the neck, shoulders) was a show of power.

    Also her story of the attack needs more details. It doesnt make a lot of sense. There are few places where they could be without chancing someone seeing them during almost any time she would legitimately be working to be called upon to bring that bag to him. And this was before cell phones. How did she know where he was to give him the bag? So she should have been able to state where it happened more precisely given that detail. It was supposed to be a warm day but the building was cold? She stated she put in her resignation or was forced to, in the first story and now she says she was fired.

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    All of a sudden, Democrats don't believe women.

    Color me shocked.

    And THEN what...?

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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Quote Originally Posted by 3leftsdoo View Post
    All of a sudden, Democrats don't believe women.

    Color me shocked.

    I have never said that women should automatically be believed. No one should. What they are saying happened and the facts of their stories should be heard and examined. It is not wrong to question details that do not match. Yes, in recollections, some things could be missed, left out. However, they shouldn't change within a years telling.

    Maybe if you stopped grouping people in ridiculous attempts to smear or praise all based on Party, you could actually truly debate a topic. I'm not even a Democrat. I'm Independent.

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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    What 'smear campaign'?
    The one that started against her when she first came forward.


    You need to adjust that metal hat, Ted.

    It's based on reality.

    Go talk to seals.
    Do you have any credible media sources saying these two women are the same woman? What are you basing this assessment on?

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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Give Alexandra Tara Reade.... QUACK QUACK QUACK... voice! Read her stories.

    Background
    On April 3rd, 2019, Tara Reade spoke out to reporters saying, “[Joe Biden] used to put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck. I would just kind of freeze and wait for him to stop doing that.”[1] Almost immediately, on Twitter, people began sharing her pro-Putin articles. That day, Twitter user @IsaacDovere published a full thread saying, "latest woman to accuse Biden of touching her inappropriately […] wrote in December: 'I love Russia with all my heart … President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader.'" The initial tweet gained over 2,800 likes and 2,200 retweets in a year.
    Tara Reade's Joe Biden Sexual Assault Allegations | Know Your Meme

    In short, Ms. Reade supports Bernie and does not want you to vote for Joe!

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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Quote Originally Posted by Trippy Trekker View Post
    Give Alexandra Tara Reade.... QUACK QUACK QUACK... voice! Read her stories.

    Tara Reade's Joe Biden Sexual Assault Allegations | Know Your Meme

    In short, Ms. Reade supports Bernie and does not want you to vote for Joe!
    Democrat motto:

    Do NOT believe women!

    And THEN what...?

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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I have never said that women should automatically be believed. No one should. What they are saying happened and the facts of their stories should be heard and examined. It is not wrong to question details that do not match. Yes, in recollections, some things could be missed, left out. However, they shouldn't change within a years telling.

    Maybe if you stopped grouping people in ridiculous attempts to smear or praise all based on Party, you could actually truly debate a topic. I'm not even a Democrat. I'm Independent.

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    So you deeply questioned Ford in the same way you're questioning Reade?

    If so, good on you.

    And THEN what...?

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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Quote Originally Posted by 3leftsdoo View Post
    Democrat motto:

    Do NOT believe women!

    The motto is "What ever works, throw as many overboard is you must....UTOPIA is not going to get here without help!".
    We are so screwed....ANNOUNCEMENT: Screwing Around Time is Officially Over.....It has to be.

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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Quote Originally Posted by 3leftsdoo View Post
    Well, except to attack Biden's accuser & make excuses for Biden.

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    What's with your obsession with King Andy?

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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I agree that they dont really match stories or names (although the accuser has admitted she has changed her name and posts under a pseudonym due to past domestic violence issues).

    However there are some legitimate reasons to question the accuser. For one, her current story does not match the story she sent out last year, even if you consider that she claims to have not wanted to reveal everything at that time. She claimed then that she was used to being the center of attention, admired for her looks and it was someone else who pointed out, protested her serving drinks because Biden found her attractive, yet now her claim is that that incident made her uncomfortable then and all the women she worked with said to go along with it, encouraged her to just do it. She also stated back then that there was no sexuality, no sexual assault to what he did, that it made her feel uncomfortable and that he was exerting power over her and all she wanted was for him to admit to that and apologize. She even stated that her issue with it was she saw herself as an alpha so it felt like him touching her in public (on the neck, shoulders) was a show of power.

    Also her story of the attack needs more details. It doesnt make a lot of sense. There are few places where they could be without chancing someone seeing them during almost any time she would legitimately be working to be called upon to bring that bag to him. And this was before cell phones. How did she know where he was to give him the bag? So she should have been able to state where it happened more precisely given that detail. It was supposed to be a warm day but the building was cold? She stated she put in her resignation or was forced to, in the first story and now she says she was fired.
    Hm.

    Well, in some ways, I don't know if the points you raise are necessarily contradictions (ie: earlier complaints about the rubbing/touching etc don't mean that the complaint about sexual assault didn't happen, but, rather, demonstrate a pattern of behavior), but I can certainly see why a shifting story rationally creates doubt.

    Out of curiosity, if I were to look up your posts on Fords' shifting story against Kavanaugh, where did you come down on that?

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    Re: Joe Biden's accuser finally tells her full story - Katie Halper's interview with Tara Reade

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    She changes her story from one thing to another.

    Here she claims other women didnt believe her, encouraged her to serve the drinks. Post is Mar21.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/readealexandra

    Yet, in the story a year ago, what she herself wrote, it was different. She said she sat back in silence in that incident and it was in fact a senior woman was who cautioned her against doing it.

    "I was a former model and actress, so at the time such comments were of no consequence to me. I was asked to do many things based on my looks and I did not know what value my intellect even held at the time, if any.
    However, to a senior female legislative aide, it was not OK and she voiced her objection. She said, “Tara, you do not have to be treated like an object, you do not have to serve cocktails at a function for men because the Senator asked you to do this!”"

    This is from her own story.

    Alexandra Tara Reade: A girl walks into the Senate | TheUnion.com




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    I'd say it's pretty obvious she likes to make things up. She should be dismissed.

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