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Romney could derail Republican subpoena targeting Bidens

Tanngrisnir said:
ObamacareFail said:
You rationalize away his corruption and incompetence and venerate the man.
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Actually it's you that is rationalizing Biden's corruption.

Biden was carrying out US policy and did nothing illegal with public funds.
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US policy is not and never has been to instruct a foriegn leader to fire a prosecutor or else under the threat of witholding aid. The US and the rest of the world can call for it publicly and privately, however it is not legal to demand it as a quid pro quo for giving aid. The sooner you learn that, the sooner you will grow some credibility.


twumpie was proven to had committed illegal acts,
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That is a bald face lie. The lunatics in the democrat party impeached him on testimony from 2nd and thrid hand witnesses, basically gossip.

n
o matter how much that upsets you.
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I am not upset in the least. I am just arguing a point. That's what posters do on political talk boards. You do understand that, don't you?

No, you don't give a damn that what he did was fully legal. It spoils your false equivalency and false narrative.
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I still find it amusing that you say that with a straight face while claiming what Trump was alleged to have done is illegal.
If roles were reversed, you would be defending Biden and calling Trump a criminal for getting the Ukranian prosecutor fired at the threat of withholding aid.


You simply wouldn't know.
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Yawn.....
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ObamacareFail said:
Tanngrisnir said:
Actually it's you that is rationalizing Biden's corruption.
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LOL! Yet MORE dishonesty from you? You haven't demonstrated any corruption on Biden's part, nor can you nor am I at all interested in figments of your over-active imagination.
US policy is not and never has been to instruct a foriegn leader to fire a prosecutor or else under the threat of witholding aid. The US and the rest of the world can call for it publicly and privately, however it is not legal to demand it as a quid pro quo for giving aid. The sooner you learn that, the sooner you will grow some credibility.
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Yes, it was US policy, no matter how confused that makes you. What was done was completely legal and done for public good, nor can you show that it was illegal. Why is it you can never back up your claims? It's become boring.
That is a bald face lie. The lunatics in the democrat party impeached him on testimony from 2nd and thrid hand witnesses, basically gossip.
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Lulz. You had to lie in order to assert that what I stated was a lied. And it's 'bald faced', not 'bald face'. It wasn't 'gossip'. I knew you didn't watch the hearings. Thanks for admitting to that.
I am not upset in the least. I am just arguing a point. That's what posters do on political talk boards. You do understand that, don't you?
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No, you're spouting out your fantasies that, when called out on, you cannot substantiate.
I still find it amusing that you say that with a straight face while claiming what Trump was alleged to have done is illegal.
If roles were reversed, you would be defending Biden and calling Trump a criminal for getting the Ukranian prosecutor fired at the threat of withholding aid.
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I find it amusing that you have to pretend what Biden did and what your god twump did are ever remotely comparable.
Yawn.....
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Sorry you had to run away from your own claims again.
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Jredbaron96 said:
No, it wasn't, on either count.
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Just the fact that Biden's crack pipe smoking son was employed with Burisma while his dad was vice president alone is unethical.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Just the fact that Biden's crack pipe smoking son was employed with Burisma while his dad was vice president alone is unethical.
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Why? Are the children of politicians not allowed to have jobs?
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Why? Are the children of politicians not allowed to have jobs?
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Never said they should not have jobs. Getting a multi-million dollar job for the sole reason that his cognitively declined daddy was Vice President is not ethical.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Big yawn..... Point is, I will not take any source seriously that allows the reader ti edit the material. I will not bother to click on a link to wikipedia. Case closed.
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That's not how Wikipedia works:

First, YOU cannot simply alter the information without it being reviewed seconds later for legitimacy. Since it can be updated, Wikipedia is a greater source for general knowledge than the family encyclopedia volume bought five years ago.

Second, Wikipedia provides source links to primary documentation for its content. This means that if you don't like a particular sentence, you can click on the source link to see where it came from. Again, the family encyclopedia does not offer this ability to back up its material.

Third, it is for the above two capabilities that university professors will tell a student that he may use Wikipedia for information, but not as a source.


Ergo, you don't bother because you don't want to know.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Never said they should not have jobs. Getting a multi-million dollar job for the sole reason that his cognitively declined daddy was Vice President is not ethical.
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I just don't understand how you people can ignore Trump's long unethical history, and the last three years of presidential ever-lowering standards, but rage about the Biden thing.
 
MSgt said:
That's not how Wikipedia works:

First, YOU cannot simply alter the information without it being reviewed seconds later for legitimacy.
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From personal experience, I can tell you that is simply not always the case.


Since it can be updated, Wikipedia is a greater source for general knowledge than the family encyclopedia volume bought five years ago.
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If it were only updated by those that own and publish wikipedia, you might have a point. When the reader can edit the material in real time, it ceases to be a legitimate encyclopedia...and that's whether the edits are checked withing seconds, days, months or years. Only the publisher should do the editing, otherwise it's a blog.

Second, Wikipedia provides source links to primary documentation for its content. This means that if you don't like a particular sentence, you can click on the source link to see where it came from.
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When I consult an encyclopedia, I want to trust the material without necessarily having to always chase down links to sources.

Again, the family encyclopedia does not offer this ability to back up its material.
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However the Family encyclopedia does provide updates....from the publisher....not the reader.

Third, it is for the above two capabilities that university professors will tell a student that he may use Wikipedia for information, but not as a source.
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I am not at this point in my life a university student or professor and do not care what he/she allows or does not allow.

Ergo, you don't bother because you don't want to know.
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Says you. You will just have to live with the fact that I do not take an editable source seriously, especially in regards to politics.
 
MSgt said:
I just don't understand how you people can ignore Trump's long unethical history, and the last three years of presidential ever-lowering standards, but rage about the Biden thing.
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Perhaps when you grow some objectivity you will understand.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Never said they should not have jobs. Getting a multi-million dollar job for the sole reason that his cognitively declined daddy was Vice President is not ethical.
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It's not ethical for kids to bank off of their parents names? In that case half of the rich people on this planet are unethical, including some of our most famous individuals. You sure you wanna go down that route?
 
Oh, he could but he won't. He said he had misgivings about opening this investigation and went right ahead and voted to do so. He's a calculating PoS.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
It's not ethical for kids to bank off of their parents names? In that case half of the rich people on this planet are unethical, including some of our most famous individuals. You sure you wanna go down that route?
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It's not ethical for them to benefit while their dad are still holding an office in the US Government involved in making decisions that may benefit the company they are working for. Can you understand that? After daddy leaves office, no problem. Though in Hunter's case, it again became a publi embarrasment when cognitive decline Joe decided to run for president.
 
ObamacareFail said:
It's not ethical for them to benefit while their dad are still holding an office in the US Government involved in making decisions that may benefit the company they are working for.
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So Donald Trump's children should not be employed in the White House, correct?
 
Jredbaron96 said:
So Donald Trump's children should not be employed in the White House, correct?
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The white house is not private industry benefiting from decisions made at the White House. Do try to understand.
 
ObamacareFail said:
The white house is not private industry benefiting from decisions made at the White House. Do try to understand.
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You're right it's a much more powerful, influential and vital apparatus than a Ukrainian natural gas firm. So it's even worse.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
You're right it's a much more powerful, influential and vital apparatus than a Ukrainian natural gas firm. So it's even worse.
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I suppose that you will never get it. Let's try one more time. Hunter Biden with no knowledge of the natural gas business whatsoever, based on his daddy's position as Vice President of the USA, was given a position on the board of Burisma paying millions of dollars a year. That company stood to benefit from decisions made at the White House regarding Ukraine. If you cannot see the conflict of interest, I cannot help you. Meanwhile Ivana Trump and her husband Jared Kushner, both senior advisors to the president do not draw a salary. And none of the private ventures they are involved in have anything whatsoever to do with decisions made at the White House.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I suppose that you will never get it. Let's try one more time. Hunter Biden with no knowledge of the natural gas business whatsoever, based on his daddy's position as Vice President of the USA, was given a position on the board of Burisma paying millions of dollars a year.
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And riding off your parents coattails isn't desirable but it's not illegal nor uncommon.

That company stood to benefit from decisions made at the White House regarding Ukraine.
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Such as?

If you cannot see the conflict of interest, I cannot help you.
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You haven't pointed out anything worth noting.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
And riding off your parents coattails isn't desirable but it's not illegal nor uncommon.
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Riding off your parent's coattails is one thing, riding off your parents coattails to the point where you use such connection to get a job in the private sector in another country that has can openly benefit from daddy being a vice president is another. The latter is in the least, astoundingly unethical.



Such as?

REVEALED: Biden-Linked Burisma Consultant Approached State Dept Official For Ukraine Meeting in 2016 | The National Interest



You haven't pointed out anything worth noting.
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I cannot teach what you refuse to learn.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Riding off your parent's coattails is one thing, riding off your parents coattails to the point where you use such connection to get a job in the private sector in another country that has can openly benefit from daddy being a vice president is another. The latter is in the least, astoundingly unethical.
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If your source for this being unethical is the Nationalist Interest you need to try again.

And of course, they reference John Solomon, who never actually said where he got his sources from and refused to disclose where his information came from.

I cannot teach what you refuse to learn.
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To be able to teach you need to actually understand the topic.

Again, nothing Biden did with regards to Burisma was illegal.
 
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