Mike Bloomberg takes 2nd place in new Democratic primary poll, qualifies for Wednesday's debate

A few days before the Nevada caucuses, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has taken a 12 percentage point lead in the Democratic presidential contest, according to an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll released Tuesday morning.

Sanders has the support of 31 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, up 9 points from the last Marist poll in December, but coming in at No. 2 is former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, at 19 percent. That's a 15-point jump since December.

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This poll qualifies Bloomberg to participate in Wednesday's Democratic debate, though Bloomberg won't be on the ballot in Saturday's caucuses.

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Source: (The Week) Mike Bloomberg takes 2nd place in new Democratic primary poll, qualifies for Wednesday's debate

While the article headline refers to Mike Bloomberg's sudden 15pt ascent to the number two spot in the party, which is remarkable in itself, we also can't can't overlook Bernie's rise to dominate the field by 12 pts! Finally, this just might be turning-out to be two-horse race.

Bloomberg has now qualified for Tomorrow's (Wed) Nevada debate stage, where he will be in the odd position of being the rising 2nd place challenger while not being on the state ballot! I think we can predict the field will come after Bloomberg, and coupled with his being untested on the debate exchange it will be an important moment for him and the party.

If Bloomberg performs well and resonates, he could get a nice lift into the heart of the race. At this time, Bloomberg appears to be a legit contender with potential to improve his position and perhaps depose Biden and several others.

Bloomberg has based his candidacy on two things:

1)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2)The idea that what Democrats really want isn't a revolutionary change in economic and health care policy, but just for Trump to be gone.

So far 1) is gearing up to be pretty damn accurate. There has to be a fair basis for 2), but we'll just have to wait and see.

Cardinal said:

Bloomberg has based his candidacy on two things:
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1)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2)The idea that what Democrats really want isn't a revolutionary change in economic and health care policy, but just for Trump to be gone.

So far 1) is gearing up to be pretty damn accurate. There has to be a fair basis for 2), but we'll just have to wait and see.

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Correct, many Democrats actually so love Trump they want their own Super Trump - even more egotistical, more arrogant, blurts our more offensive rants, definitely is more racist against black people by a factor of 100, richer and even more an autocratic economic conservative than Trump.

Remember, Bloomberg said he switched to being a Democrat - at age 76 less than 2 years ago - so he can run on the Democratic ticket specifically to prevent any of the real Democratic candidates from being nominated. Simply put, Bloomberg is the anti-liberal, anti-Democratic candidate.

Increasing number of white Democrats will want Bloomberg because they want Trump. With Bloomberg changing and putting a "D" after his name at age 76 in 2018 is the only qualifications he needs to be the Democratic Party's very own Donald Trump.

I WILL REMIND I POSTED THAT BLOOMBERG WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S NOMINEE - starting more than one thread with that prediction - while everyone including everyone including everyone else including all Democrats on the forum scoffed at that.

Many, many times I have posted the Democratic Party is as white controlled racist as back to slavery and has become the corporate-fascist party. Therefore, Democrats supporting Bloomberg - the most racist candidate to run for president since George Wallace - was completely predictable. It will be that Bloomberg is an old, rich white racist billionaire assured him widespread support among white Democrats - particularly old white male Democrats.

A Bloomberg nomination would be akin to Democratic party suicide. I really hate the two party duopoly.

Cardinal said:

Bloomberg has based his candidacy on two things:

1)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2)The idea that what Democrats really want isn't a revolutionary change in economic and health care policy, but just for Trump to be gone.

So far 1) is gearing up to be pretty damn accurate. There has to be a fair basis for 2), but we'll just have to wait and see.

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I'm thinking a lot of Dems are considering the old axiom,

"Don't bring a knife to a gun fight"

And, they're hoping Bloomberg is packing some serious heat!

Helix said:

A Bloomberg nomination would be akin to Democratic party suicide. I really hate the two party duopoly.

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Well, the first rule of governance is you have to attain the position to govern. Do you believe Bernie will succeed against Trump?

Chomsky said:

Well, the first rule of governance is you have to attain the position to govern. Do you believe Bernie will succeed against Trump?

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I don't know. I do know that I don't think that I can hold my nose this time if it's Bloomberg, though. I have intensely disliked his agenda for almost twenty years.

The party changed the rules for Bloomberg to participate in the New Hampshire debates and he refused. I dont know that he really wants to be on the stage...at least not yet. (and certainly not after some of the recent revelations).

Helix said:

I don't know. I do know that I don't think that I can hold my nose this time if it's Bloomberg, though. I have intensely disliked his agenda for almost twenty years.

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He's claiming a different agenda. His unknown cannot be worse than the known. For one, he's already acknowledged making a mistake.

ecofarm said:

He's claiming a different agenda. His unknown cannot be worse than the known. For one, he's already acknowledged making a mistake.

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He's a hyper-motivated nanny stater. **** that. He has also completely ****ed himself with the minority vote. He's the worst choice in the current Democratic field.

Helix said:

He's a hyper-motivated nanny stater. **** that. He has also completely ****ed himself with the minority vote. He's the worst choice in the current Democratic field.

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I don't care what he is. There's nothing that could be nominated and I don't vote blue. I'm not a Dem, I'm an anti Trump. And there's no changing it. I'm Blue Wave no matter what; every single contest on the form. If someone tries to compare anyone and Trump, I'll laugh in their face.

"Can't hold my nose". What kinda bs is that? I'm pro gun, a fiscal conservative and a hawk. And I'm supposed to worry about your sensitivities? Haha. Don't cry too much.

My vote is not about politics. It's about the country. It's about decency. It's about law and order. I don't give a **** about politics. Politics ain't got a damn ****ing thing to do with this election.

Helix said:

I don't know. I do know that I don't think that I can hold my nose this time if it's Bloomberg, though. I have intensely disliked his agenda for almost twenty years.

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Fair enough. I'm torn here, though I will absolutely vote for the eventual nominee.

However at this time, I do believe Bloomberg to be the most electable if the Bro's don't stay home in protest.

But straight-up? I am beyond ecstatic that we can have this conversation within one party! We're talking "big-tent" spelled capital B-I-G! That makes me feel better about re-joining the Dems after many years' absence. I want to see diversity in opinion & ideas, and broad acceptance among my fellow party members. And it looks like we're getting it! Good for us!

ecofarm said:

I don't care what he is. There's nothing that could be nominated and I don't vote blue. I'm not a Dem, I'm an anti Trump. And there's no changing it. I'm Blue Wave no matter what; every single contest on the form. If someone tries to compare anyone and Trump, I'll laugh in their face.

"Can't hold my nose". What kinda bs is that? I'm pro gun, a fiscal conservative and a hawk. And I'm supposed to worry about your sensitivities? Haha. Don't cry too much.

My vote is not about politics. It's about the country.

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This is the race in a nutshell. You are voting blue come hell or high water and I am doing same voting red. Which leaves really only one question. Who has the numbers? We wont know for sure till November.

ecofarm said:

I don't care what he is. There's nothing that could be nominated and I don't vote blue. I'm not a Dem, I'm an anti Trump. And there's no changing it. I'm Blue Wave no matter what; every single contest on the form. If someone tries to compare anyone and Trump, I'll laugh in their face.

"Can't hold my nose". What kinda bs is that? I'm pro gun, a fiscal conservative and a hawk. And I'm supposed to worry about your sensitivities? Haha. Don't cry too much.

My vote is not about politics. It's about the country. It's about decency. It's about law and order. I don't give a **** about politics.

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I can say that I'll vote against every downticket Republican for at least the next ten years. However, I don't think I can vote for Bloomberg.

Helix said:

He's a hyper-motivated nanny stater. **** that. He has also completely ****ed himself with the minority vote. He's the worst choice in the current Democratic field.

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With all respect Helix, it appears Mike Bloomberg has recently risen to the number two choice among African-American voters (as he now also appears to be the number two among the party at-large).

Reference: (Daily Best) Black Voters Turn to Mike Bloomberg

PirateMk1 said:

This is the race in a nutshell. You are voting blue come hell or high water and I am doing same voting red. Which leaves really only one question. Who has the numbers? We wont know for sure till November.

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I'm voting blue in every office down to city comptroller. Don't miss a box.

Chomsky said:

Fair enough. I'm torn here, though I will absolutely vote for the eventual nominee.

However at this time, I do believe Bloomberg to be the most electable if the Bro's don't stay home in protest.

But straight-up? I am beyond ecstatic that we can have this conversation within one party! We're talking "big-tent" spelled capital B-I-G! That makes me feel better about re-joining the Dems after many years' absence. I want to see diversity in opinion & ideas, and broad acceptance among my fellow party members. And it looks like we're getting it! Good for us!

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I'm not a Bernie or nothing bro. I'd vote for any of the nominees except Bloomberg.

Chomsky said:

Source: (The Week) Mike Bloomberg takes 2nd place in new Democratic primary poll, qualifies for Wednesday's debate

While the article headline refers to Mike Bloomberg's sudden 15pt ascent to the number two spot in the party, which is remarkable in itself, we also can't can't overlook Bernie's rise to dominate the field by 12 pts! Finally, this just might be turning-out to be two-horse race.

Bloomberg has now qualified for Tomorrow's (Wed) Nevada debate stage, where he will be in the odd position of being the rising 2nd place challenger while not being on the state ballot! I think we can predict the field will come after Bloomberg, and coupled with his being untested on the debate exchange it will be an important moment for him and the party.

If Bloomberg performs well and resonates, he could get a nice lift into the heart of the race. At this time, Bloomberg appears to be a legit contender with potential to improve his position and perhaps depose Biden and several others.

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It would be interesting if he does win, it'll be a New York City racist Billionaire vs another New York City racist Billionaire in the general election.

Helix said:

I can say that I'll vote against every downticket Republican for at least the next ten years. However, I don't think I can vote for Bloomberg.

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Nonsense. When you're done with this drama, you'll have the perspective necessary.

ecofarm said:

I don't care what he is. There's nothing that could be nominated and I don't vote blue. I'm not a Dem, I'm an anti Trump. And there's no changing it. I'm Blue Wave no matter what; every single contest on the form. If someone tries to compare anyone and Trump, I'll laugh in their face.

"Can't hold my nose". What kinda bs is that? I'm pro gun, a fiscal conservative and a hawk. And I'm supposed to worry about your sensitivities? Haha. Don't cry too much.

My vote is not about politics. It's about the country. It's about decency. It's about law and order. I don't give a **** about politics. Politics ain't got a damn ****ing thing to do with this election.

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Damn! You're really garnering my respect, here! :thumbs:

We've got to start a club ...

ecofarm said:

I'm voting blue in every office down to city comptroller. Don't miss a box.

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Oh I wont. I will make sure to vote early and often as the saying goes. Maybe find some dead people to vote as well, Chi town style.

PirateMk1 said:

This is the race in a nutshell. You are voting blue come hell or high water and I am doing same voting red. Which leaves really only one question. Who has the numbers? We wont know for sure till November.

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Bingo!

For quite a long time I was saying this race will be won by who can best pull the base (no HRC's need apply!).

Chomsky said:

With all respect Helix, it appears Mike Bloomberg has recently risen to the number two choice among African-American voters (as he now also appears to be the number two among the party at-large).

Reference: (Daily Best) Black Voters Turn to Mike Bloomberg

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I can only imagine the clips that the opposition will have on him. It's bad enough already.

PirateMk1 said:

Oh I wont. I will make sure to vote early and often as the saying goes. Maybe find some dead people to vote as well, Chi town style.

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But here's the difference between us. Your vote is as it would be. My vote is vastly different than every other year in my life except 2018. I've never voted even predominantly for dems. I've always voted mostly republicans. So while your vote is the same it has always been, mine is different than it has always been.

I'm not losing your vote. You're losing mine.

Helix said:

I'm not a Bernie or nothing bro. I'd vote for any of the nominees except Bloomberg.

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And while I suspect you're aware, my "Bro's" reference there was not to you of course ...