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Mike Bloomberg takes 2nd place in new Democratic primary poll, qualifies for Wednesday's debate

Chomsky said:
Why would you bring the bolded up? Are you insinuating that is occurring to any substantive degree?
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Yes. I am. To the degree it moves the needle enough in some places it produces wins where there would otherwise be loses. Its why I want voter ID, if computerized voting there must be a paper trail and not connected to the internet, and registration must be completed and confirmed before the vote. Further votes should be at polling places only. Polling places should be open one standard week (7days) with early open and late closing times. Polling places should be distributed such most everyone has fairly easy access to them. Our votes are valuable and right now they are not secure enough.
 
Fletch said:
Bloomberg is everything you hate about Trump. It will be interesting to see if any of the other candidates on the debate stage will have the balls to take him on. Ive got to admit though, that it will be funny if the evil billionaire Bloomberg steals the nomination from Bernie. Poetic justice :lamo
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Why would you doubt the bolded? They are absolutely going to come after him. And we'll see how he does. Hopefully, they'll have some serious raucous debates. It's good for the party, good for the democratic process, and good for the Dem's chance of electoral success.

But before we fixate on Bloomberg's possible racism, are you aware he is now getting serious support in the African-American community?

Check it out:

Black Voters Turn to Mike Bloomberg
 
PirateMk1 said:
Yes. I am. To the degree it moves the needle enough in some places it produces wins where there would otherwise be loses.
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There's been no evidence of the above. Even Trump abandoned his federal "election cheating" commission (ostensibly) because it found nothing.

Its why I want voter ID, if computerized voting there must be a paper trail and not connected to the internet, and registration must be completed and confirmed before the vote. Further votes should be at polling places only. Polling places should be open one standard week (7days) with early open and late closing times. Polling places should be distributed such most everyone has fairly easy access to them. Our votes are valuable and right now they are not secure enough.
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I'm all with you here. But that would require federal mandate & electoral control, which is likely un-Constitutional.
 
Chomsky said:
I suppose that's one way to attempt to paint the picture. Personally, I don't see anything like this thrown from the Trump camp sticking, due to the source.

Hopefully, the comparison will be on economic track record, businessman, and who will be best for the economy. All, I believe Bloomberg will win. I'm sure he will have the support of the business community.
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It's not thrown from the Trump camp, it's his literal history including his stop and frisk. He's even on records saying the police stop too many white people and not enough minorities. Then there's his whole redlining thing.

Oh, and I guess I should add sexist to both, as he sounds like he gives trump more than a run for his money in that respect as well: Report raises more questions about Bloomberg’s alleged sexual harassment - Vox

Mike Bloomberg rocked by re-emergence of sexist remarks | US news | The Guardian
 
Really looking forward to this debate. Will be interested in the questions asked, who goes on the offensive, and who gets attacked the most.
 
Chomsky said:
I'm thinking a lot of Dems are considering the old axiom,

"Don't bring a knife to a gun fight"

And, they're hoping Bloomberg is packing some serious heat!
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A lot of people I have spoken to have questioned their support of Biden, and they feel comfortable with Bloomberg.
 
Cardinal said:
Bloomberg has based his candidacy on two things:

1)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2)The idea that what Democrats really want isn't a revolutionary change in economic and health care policy, but just for Trump to be gone.
So far 1) is gearing up to be pretty damn accurate. There has to be a fair basis for 2), but we'll just have to wait and see.
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That is exactly what Democrats especially in flyover states have been saying. So far Bloomberg has kept on that path/slogan.
 
Helix said:
I can say that I'll vote against every downticket Republican for at least the next ten years. However, I don't think I can vote for Bloomberg.
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Depending on which state you live in, that might be just fine. If you're in a swing state I think you have to pick your poison.
 
Chomsky said:
Source: (The Week) Mike Bloomberg takes 2nd place in new Democratic primary poll, qualifies for Wednesday's debate

While the article headline refers to Mike Bloomberg's sudden 15pt ascent to the number two spot in the party, which is remarkable in itself, we also can't can't overlook Bernie's rise to dominate the field by 12 pts! Finally, this just might be turning-out to be two-horse race.

Bloomberg has now qualified for Tomorrow's (Wed) Nevada debate stage, where he will be in the odd position of being the rising 2nd place challenger while not being on the state ballot! I think we can predict the field will come after Bloomberg, and coupled with his being untested on the debate exchange it will be an important moment for him and the party.

If Bloomberg performs well and resonates, he could get a nice lift into the heart of the race. At this time, Bloomberg appears to be a legit contender with potential to improve his position and perhaps depose Biden and several others.
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Is the this same Bloomberg that says blacks committ all the crime in big cities, that farmers are lacking grey matter and he could teach anyone to be a famer? That elitise, racist, billionaire.
 
Gondwanaland said:
It would be interesting if he does win, it'll be a New York City racist Billionaire vs another New York City racist Billionaire in the general election.
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I believe there is only one billionaire in the race, and he will probably release his tax returns.
 
JMR said:
Depending on which state you live in, that might be just fine. If you're in a swing state I think you have to pick your poison.
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Mango the Clown will take my state easily. however, i don't think that i could vote for Bloomberg even if my vote counted more. i held my nose in 2016, and i'm willing to vote for any of the opposition candidates except him. if the Democrats want to throw the presidential election and let that detestable orange idiot stack the SCOTUS and the courts for the next two generations, they can do it without my help.
 
Chomsky said:
Bloomberg has big-time experience - in running NYC, and in running his (huge) business. And unlike Trump, he and his business have been highly successful. I'm not aware of Bloomberg declaring bankruptcy (but - will stand corrected if I'm in error).
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I don't think he has been found guilty of running a fraudulent university either.
 
Helix said:
Mango the Clown will take my state easily. however, i don't think that i could vote for Bloomberg even if my vote counted more. i held my nose in 2016, and i'm willing to vote for any of the opposition candidates except him. if the Democrats want to throw the presidential election and let that detestable orange idiot stack the SCOTUS and the courts for the next two generations, they can do it without my help.
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I understand that is your position, I just find it hard to understand. :peace
 
JMR said:
I understand that is your position, I just find it hard to understand. :peace
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my position is don't nominate Bloomberg. it's pretty simple.
 
Helix said:
my position is don't nominate Bloomberg. it's pretty simple.
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I guess we will all see how this plays out. Hopefully the Democrats will do a better job of getting the best candidate than the GOP did in 2016. Trump survived throughout getting like 17% support, until they all dropped out. Bloomberg is not going anywhere until the fat lady sings, so other candidates will need to make a very strong case for themselves.
 
JMR said:
I guess we will all see how this plays out. Hopefully the Democrats will do a better job of getting the best candidate than the GOP did in 2016. Trump survived throughout getting like 17% support, until they all dropped out. Bloomberg is not going anywhere until the fat lady sings, so other candidates will need to make a very strong case for themselves.
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maybe they'll eventually make the primary into a "who wants to be president" reality TV show in which everyone is locked in a house. that's a fairly soft "maybe."
 
Gondwanaland said:
It's not thrown from the Trump camp, it's his literal history including his stop and frisk. He's even on records saying the police stop too many white people and not enough minorities. Then there's his whole redlining thing.

Oh, and I guess I should add sexist to both, as he sounds like he gives trump more than a run for his money in that respect as well: Report raises more questions about Bloomberg’s alleged sexual harassment - Vox

Mike Bloomberg rocked by re-emergence of sexist remarks | US news | The Guardian
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I'm vaguely familiar with his record from a higher non-granular level. I haven't seen anything that puts him in the same danger as what Trump is currently doing with Ukraine, pardons, et al.
 
JMR said:
A lot of people I have spoken to have questioned their support of Biden, and they feel comfortable with Bloomberg.
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Exactly! Where do moderates who want Trump out of office, go? Bernie? No way they're going socialist. Warren? Ditto. Buttigieg? Probably a little too young and perceived as lacking in the gravitas to become elected, along with further concerns whether the country will accept a gay President. Klobuchar? Damn, she's ideal, but she'll likely never take the poll position!

So who's left? Bingo! The White Knight! Bloomberg!
 
JMR said:
I don't think he has been found guilty of running a fraudulent university either.
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Thar's just one of a multitude of financial sins ...
 
Cardinal said:
Bloomberg has based his candidacy on two things:

1)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2)The idea that what Democrats really want isn't a revolutionary change in economic and health care policy, but just for Trump to be gone.

So far 1) is gearing up to be pretty damn accurate. There has to be a fair basis for 2), but we'll just have to wait and see.
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#2 is going to be the real test because the Bernie folks and other progressives aren't going to be happy if they're scuttled again. I'm sure Trump's team is going to continue capitalizing on the divide in the Democratic Party.
 
Chomsky said:
Exactly! Where do moderates who want Trump out of office, go? Bernie? No way they're going socialist. Warren? Ditto. Buttigieg? Probably a little too young and perceived as lacking in the gravitas to become elected, along with further concerns whether the country will accept a gay President. Klobuchar? Damn, she's ideal, but she'll likely never take the poll position!

So who's left? Bingo! The White Knight! Bloomberg!
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That's what they are saying, with Mayor Pete for VP. Though every one of them said they would vote for Bernie or Warren if that's the ticket.

Personally I think the eventual nominee should take a second look at Kamala Harris.
 
JMR said:
I believe there is only one billionaire in the race, and he will probably release his tax returns.
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There's that, and if one supports the idea that a business person is an ideal person to be president because of their business savvy, then he should be the top candidate.

:)
 
PirateMk1 said:
If you didnt vote for Trump then your not really changing your vote except for the downside.
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You voted for a Bush? That's all I need to know.
 
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