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Mike Bloomberg takes 2nd place in new Democratic primary poll, qualifies for Wednesday's debate

Nonsense. When you're done with this drama, you'll have the perspective necessary.

You aren't going to shame me into team Bloomberg. Save your keystrokes.
 
I'm not a Bernie or nothing bro. I'd vote for any of the nominees except Bloomberg.

This has been frustrating me a lot lately. I like Bernie but I have never been a Bernie or bust person at all. I will vote for anyone but Bloomberg. Right now all we have is polling and a lot of that is based off of people not really knowing who Bloomberg is and has more to do with him just throwing millions of dollars at ads. I look forward to the debate but electing a republican billionaire to the top of the democratic ticket is just too much for me.
 
Bingo!

For quite a long time I was saying this race will be won by who can best pull the base (no HRC's need apply!).

I will be surprised with all the animosity, if the percentage of voters voting this year is under 70%. People are standing line in primaries, to vote for people running unopposed. I suppose controversial candidates are one way to cure voting apathy.
 
It would be interesting if he does win, it'll be a New York City racist Billionaire vs another New York City racist Billionaire in the general election.
I suppose that's one way to attempt to paint the picture. Personally, I don't see anything like this thrown from the Trump camp sticking, due to the source.

Hopefully, the comparison will be on economic track record, businessman, and who will be best for the economy. All, I believe Bloomberg will win. I'm sure he will have the support of the business community.
 
I will be surprised with all the animosity, if the percentage of voters voting this year is under 70%. People are standing line in primaries, to vote for people running unopposed. I suppose controversial candidates are one way to cure voting apathy.
You may very well be right. And you know what? This is a good thing. We need voter participation in order to have a more effective democracy.
 
But here's the difference between us. Your vote is as it would be. My vote is vastly different than every other year in my life except 2018. I've never voted even predominantly for dems. I've always voted mostly republicans. So while your vote is the same it has always been, mine is different than it has always been.

I'm not losing your vote. You're losing mine.

You assume I vote straight red tickets. I dont normally and haven't. I am not even a registered Republican. I think they are for the most part ******s. I voted normally that last time around. This year straight red ticket. I dont care how awful they are. Did you vote for Trump? If you didnt how is your vote changing?
 
I can only imagine the clips that the opposition will have on him. It's bad enough already.

But you forget that if Bloomberg prevail in the nomination, he will not be evaluated in a vacuum. He will be evaluated in relation to Trump. All you need to do is show inside a Trump rally, and that claim is gone!

If Bloomberg makes it about the ability to govern and run the economy, Trump is going to have a rough row to hoe.
 
Source: (The Week) Mike Bloomberg takes 2nd place in new Democratic primary poll, qualifies for Wednesday's debate

While the article headline refers to Mike Bloomberg's sudden 15pt ascent to the number two spot in the party, which is remarkable in itself, we also can't can't overlook Bernie's rise to dominate the field by 12 pts! Finally, this just might be turning-out to be two-horse race.

Bloomberg has now qualified for Tomorrow's (Wed) Nevada debate stage, where he will be in the odd position of being the rising 2nd place challenger while not being on the state ballot! I think we can predict the field will come after Bloomberg, and coupled with his being untested on the debate exchange it will be an important moment for him and the party.

If Bloomberg performs well and resonates, he could get a nice lift into the heart of the race. At this time, Bloomberg appears to be a legit contender with potential to improve his position and perhaps depose Biden and several others.

To which I say, go Mike.
 
You assume I vote straight red tickets. I dont normally and haven't. I am not even a registered Republican. I think they are for the most part ******s. I voted normally that last time around. This year straight red ticket. I dont care how awful they are. Did you vote for Trump? If you didnt how is your vote changing?

I voted for Bush. I voted for Jeb. I've voted for many republicans in my time. President, congress, governor, mayor and council. But not this time.
 
You may very well be right. And you know what? This is a good thing. We need voter participation in order to have a more effective democracy.

I have to disagree, more is not necessarily better especially with the education levels the way they are now, a lot of people know much that isn't so. The only reason I would prefer somebody randomly picked from the phone book to have office over any idiot currently running is because they will be more likely to not be disingenuous.
 
I voted for Bush. I voted for Jeb. I've voted for many republicans in my time. President, congress, governor, mayor and council. But not this time.

If you didnt vote for Trump then your not really changing your vote except for the downside.
 
If you didnt vote for Trump then your not really changing your vote except for the downside.

I've voted for more Republicans than Dems in my time. Now I'm voting for none. Never in my life before Trump did I vote a straight ticket. The White House, Congress, the Governor, State legislature, city offices, you name it. Top to bottom, Blue Wave.

The second and hopefully last time I'll ever do that.
 
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I've voted for more Republicans than Dems in my time. Now I'm voting for none.

You made your point. We find out in November who has the numbers to win. We be going for all the marbles. Winner takes all. If that dont motivate people to vote I dont know what will.
 
You made your point. We find out in November who has the numbers to win.

I know I have the numbers. You go ahead and clutch those pearls.
 
PirateMk1;1071370884[B said:
I have to disagree, more is not necessarily better[/B] especially with the education levels the way they are now, a lot of people know much that isn't so. The only reason I would prefer somebody randomly picked from the phone book to have office over any idiot currently running is because they will be more likely to not be disingenuous.
And I respectfully disagree here, in turn. I decry the lack of education and factual knowledge I sometimes see in the country, but I very much believe in the egalitarianism of each having a say in the democratic & electorate process.

Now I will admit in Constitutional terms we are not a democracy, and voting was restricted to white men upon our founding. Obviously I know that's not what your espousing. But, I want us to continue being led from that dark place to full participation. I'd make voting mandatory, if it were constitutional and I could get my way.
 
Bloomberg has based his candidacy on two things:

1)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2)The idea that what Democrats really want isn't a revolutionary change in economic and health care policy, but just for Trump to be gone.

So far 1) is gearing up to be pretty damn accurate. There has to be a fair basis for 2), but we'll just have to wait and see.



Bloomberg was mayor of New York City for a while. New York City has a higher GDP than Italy.

So Bloomberg has experience.
 
I disagree. I decry the lack of education and factual knowledge I sometimes see in the country, but I very much believe in the egalitarianism of each having a say in the democratic & electorate process.

Now I will admit in Constitutional terms we are not a democracy, and voting was restricted to white men upon our founding. Obviously I know that's not what your espousing. But, I want us to continue being led from that dark place to full participation. I'd make voting mandatory, if it were constitutional and I could get my way.

Here's the thing. The vote is your to do with as you please. Use it yourself, give it to others, sell it, or just not use it, doesn't matter to me. The only thing I expect is that the vote when cast is above board, no extra votes no illegals voting, and so on. Thats it. Those feel the need to vote should, those who wish not to shouldn't be badgered, its their choice, and it is a choice.
 
Bloomberg was mayor of New York City for a while. New York City has a higher GDP than Italy.

So Bloomberg has experience.
Bloomberg has big-time experience - in running NYC, and in running his (huge) business. And unlike Trump, he and his business have been highly successful. I'm not aware of Bloomberg declaring bankruptcy (but - will stand corrected if I'm in error).
 
Here's the thing. The vote is your to do with as you please. Use it yourself, give it to others, sell it, or just not use it, doesn't matter to me. The only thing I expect is that the vote when cast is above board, no extra votes no illegals voting, and so on. Thats it. Those feel the need to vote should, those who wish not to shouldn't be badgered, its their choice, and it is a choice.
Why would you bring the bolded up? Are you insinuating that is occurring to any substantive degree?
 
I'm thinking a lot of Dems are considering the old axiom,

"Don't bring a knife to a gun fight"

And, they're hoping Bloomberg is packing some serious heat!

Bloomberg is a billionaire authoritarian with a history of racist and sexist rants--you know, the sorts of things you liberals detest in Trump. Yet here you are hoping such a man be the next president. What that says is that you really werent being honest when you attacked Trump for his faults. Its not his faults that really bothered you. Its that he was on the other tribe. An arrogant, out of touch, authoritarian, sexist, racist oligarch of the left is just fine by you.
 
Bloomberg is a billionaire authoritarian with a history of racist and sexist rants--you know, the sorts of things you liberals detest in Trump. Yet here you are hoping such a man be the next president. What that says is that you really werent being honest when you attacked Trump for his faults. Its not his faults that really bothered you. Its that he was on the other tribe. An arrogant, out of touch, authoritarian, sexist, racist oligarch of the left is just fine by you.
From what I've seen, the bolded you refer to are political attacks that I have yet to see fully litigated in the public space. And even if there were to be some truth there, that is only one component in the problems with Trump which are far from limited to only Trump's racism.

We shall see what transpires. But yes, right now it will take a hell of a lot to get me to allow Trump a second term. I don't see anything as of yet from any Dem candidate that come's even close to Trump. And if that remains, I am supporting whoever the eventual Dem nominee may be. Right now, I believe Bloomberg may be best equipped to do the job. That may be subject to change ...
 
From what I've seen, the bolded you refer to are political attacks that I have yet to see fully litigated in the public space. And even if there were to be some truth there, that is only one component in the problems with Trump which are far from limited to only Trump's racism.

We shall see what transpires. But yes, right now it will take a hell of a lot to get me to allow Trump a second term. I don't see anything as of yet from any Dem candidate that come's even close to Trump. And if that remains, I am supporting whoever the eventual Dem nominee may be. Right now, I believe Bloomberg may be best equipped to do the job. That may be subject to change ...

Bloomberg is everything you hate about Trump. It will be interesting to see if any of the other candidates on the debate stage will have the balls to take him on. Ive got to admit though, that it will be funny if the evil billionaire Bloomberg steals the nomination from Bernie. Poetic justice :lamo
 
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