House votes to condemn Trump Medicaid block grant policy

Greenbeard said:

As you point out, states already tailor their Medicaid programs to meet local needs. That’s why Medicaid isn’t one program, it’s 51 state-based programs. The goal of cutting off federal matching funds is not to give Medicaid to the states (they already have it), it’s to choke off the program to force rollbacks of enrollment and coverage.

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The Trump Administration person interviewed said the funding was not to be cut.

In what way does the program support the goal you cite?

code1211 said:

In what way does the program support the goal you cite?

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It caps the available federal contribution, detaching federal financial support from the actual needs of the population enrolled.

Greenbeard said:

It caps the available federal contribution, detaching federal financial support from the actual needs of the population enrolled.

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Is there currently no cap? This seems like one of the myriad problems leading to runaway overspending.

Greenbeard said:

Doesn't halt the administration's latest assault on Medicaid (that likely falls to the courts), but the House officially registered its opposition today.

House votes to condemn Trump Medicaid block grant policy

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The obvious reason is that people got jobs with company insurance and got off Medicaid - AKA “Medical welfare”.

Greenbeard said:

Doesn't halt the administration's latest assault on Medicaid (that likely falls to the courts), but the House officially registered its opposition today.

House votes to condemn Trump Medicaid block grant policy

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So stories like this tell us nothing because we don't actually get to see the provisions in terms of the money spent or money that will not be spent in the future. It's spinning any and everything they can to try to manipulate the political landscape. I was under the impression that every bill that supported every program had a budget, "cap". Democrats live off fear and creating a welfare state instead of improving the economy. They promise to give it to you without you doing anything for it while taking it from someone else. Income distribution. How about lets follow JFKennedy, "a rising tide raises all boats".

Drawdown said:

Ok if I were Trump I would immediately call a press conference, walk out on the stage with a copy of the House Resolution, tear it up in little pieces, laugh, and then walk away. I am petty like that.

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We've known that for a while. Wear it like an albatross.

Greenbeard said:

Doesn't halt the administration's latest assault on Medicaid (that likely falls to the courts), but the House officially registered its opposition today.

House votes to condemn Trump Medicaid block grant policy

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Still promoting massive gov't intervention into what should be a state and local issue, Medicaid? It is up to Congress to create the laws and Congress still consists of two Houses, the House and the Senate. Trump can propose and Congress can pass or reject. The Radical House wants socialism where as the Senate and most of the country don't

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HenryChinaski said:

Because that juicy permanent tax cut that was given to the upper crust has to be paid for.

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Every time Democrats talk about the safety net and the welfare programs, they always talk about cutting them back when times are better---until its time to actually cut them.

code1211 said:

Is there currently no cap? This seems like one of the myriad problems leading to runaway overspending.

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The federal government matches state funds spent on their Medicaid programs.

chuckiechan said:

The obvious reason is that people got jobs with company insurance and got off Medicaid - AKA “Medical welfare”.

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The number of uninsured children is rising under Trump.

Conservative said:

Still promoting massive gov't intervention into what should be a state and local issue, Medicaid? It is up to Congress to create the laws and Congress still consists of two Houses, the House and the Senate. Trump can propose and Congress can pass or reject.

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Sounds like a good idea. But this isn't a proposal and Congress didn't get to weigh in. The Trump administration has done this unilaterally. Hence my statement that this will end up in the courts.

Oborosen said:

Protect health care that apparently needs to still be adjusted, or completely rebuilt if it's to get any better?

Mind you, we still don't know exactly what all the administration wanted to do with the whole of this build for health care and the democrats decided to say "No" on precedent alone. Damning who it might actually help.

Yes, that seems like a very grownup way for a bunch of elected officials to act.

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Considering that Trump's Admin is in court as we speak to get the entire ACA struck down, I would say democrats know full well what's on Trumps mind. He could care less about anyone who has less than a million dollars. The little guy in Trumps mind is just in his way.

Greenbeard said:

The federal government matches state funds spent on their Medicaid programs.



The number of uninsured children is rising under Trump.



Sounds like a good idea. But this isn't a proposal and Congress didn't get to weigh in. The Trump administration has done this unilaterally. Hence my statement that this will end up in the courts.

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And this matching is set to end?

when is the house not exercising their stupidity? good or bad it is still wrong to democrats.

The AntiDonald said:

Considering that Trump's Admin is in court as we speak to get the entire ACA struck down, I would say democrats know full well what's on Trumps mind. He could care less about anyone who has less than a million dollars. The little guy in Trumps mind is just in his way.

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I doubt Trump shares the same line of thought as your typical liberal elite. So I don't know why you'd think that he does.

Greenbeard said:

You mean protect access to health care for the poor from this administration.

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As I recall Obamacare raised Medicaid eligibility up to the middle class. It also forced states to pay more. This seems like an attempt to allow states more flexibility in taking care of the truly pour.

The only thing Bloomberg would ever do for poor people is have his police and security force throw them against the wall, then kick in their ribs and piss on them for the crime of being in his presence. Well, to be fair, he maybe would only have his security force piss on the black ones.

That will be his solution to poverty. Stop being poor or get the crap beat out of you and then thrown in prison. This would eliminate poor people, while fighting crime at the same time. That is the Bloomberg Doctrine on poverty.

This is funny. Before anyone on this forum even hinted at it - and Democrats on the forum were all scoffing, and before ANY Democrat on the MSM had stated any such prospect - I stated on this forum that Mike Bloomberg would be the Democratic Party's candidate.

How could I know this? My 100+ prior messages pointing out that liberalism is dead in the Democratic party and has been fully replaced with corporate fascism - with most Democrats having been converted to worshipers of the super rich and super rich corporations. Therefore, they would support Bloomberg as if their god. Seeing this about most Democrats from my participation on this forum, this forum that is at least 95% white people - like Bernie Sanders White Flight Vermont his flee to from NYC, it was certain they would quickly come to worship Bloomberg's wealth.

And, as you see, the SINGULARLY reason increasing numbers of Democrats on the forum NOW say they support Bloomberg? ONE REASON - and one reason ONLY - he is one of the wealthiest people to ever live on this planet. THEREFORE, they not only support him, they worship his wealth.

Yet I think it very possible that their gleefully cheering the rapid decline in the percentage of Americans that are white may now be their undoing. Most WHITE Democrats do worship Mike Bloomberg for his wealth. But his literal victims - people of color the Democratic Party is so dependent upon - may not agree they all are criminals, should be treated as criminals and should be subjected to violent assault by police and unjust imprisonment as is the Bloomberg Doctrine towards non-white people.

I CALLED IT BEFORE ANYONE. Bloomberg will be the Democratic Party's nominee because most white Democrats worships super rich corporations and individuals. Increasingly, they even are openly admitting this on the forum. :2razz:

Bullseye said:

As I recall Obamacare raised Medicaid eligibility up to the middle class. It also forced states to pay more. This seems like an attempt to allow states more flexibility in taking care of the truly pour.

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I doubt most people consider making less than $18K a year “middle class,” but even if they do that doesn’t make limiting the resources available to help those folks palatable.

Greenbeard said:

I doubt most people consider making less than $18K a year “middle class,” but even if they do that doesn’t make limiting the resources available to help those folks palatable.

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Those folk will still qualify for Medicaid.

What are the root causes of the national? SS, Medicare and Medicaid. They need to be reformed.

Helix said:

Is fox blaming Democrats for the latest Republican effort to take health care away from poor people yet?

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Where does state and local responsibility rest in the healthcare discussion? Why is this a federal responsibility with 50 states, 50 different costs of living, and 50 different tax structures?

Greenbeard said:

Doesn't halt the administration's latest assault on Medicaid (that likely falls to the courts), but the House officially registered its opposition today.

House votes to condemn Trump Medicaid block grant policy

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In a way this is absolutely perfect given that healthcare is presently the #1 issue according to Americans, surpassing even the economy: New Poll Shows Health Care Is Voter's Top Concern | RealClear Opinion Research | RealClearPolitics

Meanwhile, Trump cut crucial funding to the CDC as we stand at the precipice of one of the worst outbreaks in modern history in the shadow of the coronavirus: Amid coronavirus outbreak, Trump proposes slashing CDC budget | Ars Technica

All this to finance permanent tax cuts for the rich.

Such glaring unforced errors are a boon for Democrats going into a November 2020 general presidential election.

Surrealistik said:

In a way this is absolutely perfect given that healthcare is presently the #1 issue according to Americans, surpassing even the economy: New Poll Shows Health Care Is Voter's Top Concern | RealClear Opinion Research | RealClearPolitics

Meanwhile, Trump cut crucial funding to the CDC as we stand at the precipice of one of the worst outbreaks in modern history in the shadow of the coronavirus: Amid coronavirus outbreak, Trump proposes slashing CDC budget | Ars Technica

All this to finance permanent tax cuts for the rich.

Such glaring unforced errors are a boon for Democrats going into a November 2020 general presidential election.

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This is nothing more than a continuation of the class envy and jealousy rhetoric from the left and has no place in this country as again you and others ignore the responsibilities of the state and local gov't. This is the 2021 budget proposal and cutting funding has to take place returning power to the states where it belongs. There is enough waste, fraud and abuse in CDC but the term cut doesn't resonate in the liberal world totally ignoring that spending in the name of compassion is all that matters to the left. Your liberal ideolog is on full display, class envy, jealousy, and politics of personal destruction

All this to finance permanent tax cuts for the rich.

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Glaring unforced errors? You mean a return to that massive central gov't and gov't generated economic growth promoted by the left? Think the American people are going to take the risk of undoing all the good economic results generated the last two years and return to Obama malaise?

Conservative said:

This is nothing more than a continuation of the class envy and jealousy rhetoric from the left and has no place in this country as again you and others ignore the responsibilities of the state and local gov't. This is the 2021 budget proposal and cutting funding has to take place returning power to the states where it belongs. There is enough waste, fraud and abuse in CDC but the term cut doesn't resonate in the liberal world totally ignoring that spending in the name of compassion is all that matters to the left. Your liberal ideolog is on full display, class envy, jealousy, and politics of personal destruction



Glaring unforced errors? You mean a return to that massive central gov't and gov't generated economic growth promoted by the left? Think the American people are going to take the risk of undoing all the good economic results generated the last two years and return to Obama malaise?

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You and other conservatives are more than welcome to believe whatever self-soothing delusions you like, especially if it means avoiding any kind of introspection or course correction; personally I thank Trump for the ammo going into November.

Surrealistik said:

You and other conservatives are more than welcome to believe whatever self-soothing delusions you like, especially if it means avoiding any kind of introspection or course correction; personally I thank Trump for the ammo going into November.

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You are so right as actual results have no place in yours or the radical liberal point of view. When exactly did it become a problem in this country to celebrate successes? I too thank Trump for the Ammo going into November, RESULTS!!

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bradt99 said:

What are the root causes of the national? SS, Medicare and Medicaid. They need to be reformed.

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Of course they do they're working, Republicans can't stand when government progress work as designed...