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[W:159]What to Know About the Pro-Gun Rally in Richmond, Virginia

Acadia said:
Further, to NOT INFRINGE upon the rights endowed to them by their creator.
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There is no "Creator."

Because Democrats literally think they are God.
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You are confusing Democrats with Trump. :)
 
apdst said:
If the Virginia legislature wasn't passing unconstitutional laws, there wouldn't even be a rally, much less violence. But, as long as Virginia insists on passing these unconstitutional laws, they can't bitch if there's violence.
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What unconstitutional laws are they passing?
 
Captain Adverse said:
Trump has "stoked?"

You mean stating the truth is now "stoking" violence?

The confirmation bias is strong in some. :roll:

There are 95 counties and 39 independent cities in Virginia, and the vast majority of those counties have declared themselves "Second Amendment Sanctuary" locales. That means they intend to refuse to enforce such un-Constitutional laws.

IMO they will rally in force, ANTIFAS and unwanted right-wing groups will also attend (no matter what Trump says or doesn't say), and someone will try to start trouble.

Eventually any laws passed will go through the Courts and up to SCOTUS. I intend to vote for Trump again, as IMHO if he wins he will then be able to appoint up to two more Justices. That would give 2nd-Amendment supporters seven votes re-confirming our 2nd Amendment rights.
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An absurd idea. Imagine if all fanatics did this. There would be no state.
 
apdst said:
The first responsibility of the government is to obey the law. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land and says that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Do away with the proposed anti-gun laws and there would be no protest against the proposed anti-gun laws.



Northam doesn't jack ****. He's lying about having intel about threats so he can justify violating The Constitution. If not for his anti-gun agenda, there would be no rally. If there's violence, 100% of the blame belongs to the anti-gun pieces of **** in the Virginia state government.
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Hold on, sit down, what I'm going to way will come as a shock and I want you to be prepared. There are other constitutional right besides the right to bear arms. The right to free speech. The right to peaceful assembly. The right to peacefully petition the government. These rights are endangered if extremists bent on violence are allowed to bring guns to this rally.
 
apdst said:
The rally wouldn't be taking place if there weren't anti-gun laws being passed in Virginia.

If there's violence, you can blame the anti-gunners. It'll be 100% their fault.
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So much for personal responsibility.
 
Most Democrats support protests, unless by conservatives and then they become hysterical claiming that protesters are terrorists. Their hypocrisy never ends.
 
BlueTex said:
Not even the NRA, in your own article, claims these laws are unconstitutional...
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You vote how the NRA tells you to, do you?
 
joko104 said:
You vote how the NRA tells you to, do you?
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I wasn’t the one making the claim these laws are unconstitutional. They clearly are not.


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joko104 said:
Most Democrats support protests, unless by conservatives and then they become hysterical claiming that protesters are terrorists. Their hypocrisy never ends.
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They support protests where white people scream about blowing up the White House. But they're not terrorists. Oh, no no no!
 
BlueTex said:
I wasn’t the one making the claim these laws are unconstitutional. They clearly are not.


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Oh, well since they CLEARLY are constitutional...

Yeah, those new laws are in the Bill Of Rights word for word - right after it says "SHALL NOT be infringed" are the words "except..." right?

No, wait, I looked. In the Bill Of Rights, there are NO exceptions to SHALL NOT.

Don't you think the same restrictions on buying guns should apply to voting too? After all, requiring an ID is CLEARLY constitutional. ;)
 
joko104 said:
Oh, well since they CLEARLY are constitutional...

Yeah, those new laws are in the Bill Of Rights word for word - right after it says "SHALL NOT be infringed" are the words "except..." right?

No, wait, I looked. In the Bill Of Rights, there are NO exceptions to SHALL NOT.

Don't you think the same restrictions on buying guns should apply to voting too? After all, requiring an ID is CLEARLY constitutional. ;)
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Maryland has already enacted almost identical laws and the 4th circuit has upheld them and the supreme court denied a hearing... In the 4th circuit, this is not even a close call... But then again, I'm sure your "Bill of Rights" argument will be a game changer...
 
joko104 said:
A Democrat arguing for state's rights? :lamo
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Arguing for logic, and you have an illogical response known as an ad hominem. That's no argument.
 
bearpoker said:
Hold on, sit down, what I'm going to way will come as a shock and I want you to be prepared. There are other constitutional right besides the right to bear arms. The right to free speech. The right to peaceful assembly. The right to peacefully petition the government. These rights are endangered if extremists bent on violence are allowed to bring guns to this rally.
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I guess that didn't end up the way you claimed. Nothing happened, no shots fired, no one arrested, and people were polite.

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apdst said:
There wasn't trouble, but if there was, it would have been the government's fault.
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Dude.

Think about it.

Monday was MLK Day. Government workers were off and out of harm's way.

And, to schedule a state employee on that day, to secure the event, would cost them time and a half.

Funny thing about a bunch of people coming together armed like that. No body gets killed.

Where would you rather be standing? In a crowd of gun nutters or at the Mini-Mart in North Chicago?
 
HumblePi said:
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[h=1]Tensions Are High, Extremists Are Expected to Attend. Here's What to Know About the Pro-Gun Rally in Richmond, Virginia [/h]What to Know About the Pro-Gun Rally in Richmond | Time
Officials in Richmond, Va., are taking security precautions as threats of violence from extremist groups are set to overshadow the traditional Lobby Day event where activists meet with state legislators to advocate for a wide range of policy changes.

This year’s Lobby Day on Monday, Jan. 20 comes amid Democratic legislators — who have majority in both the state’s House and Senate following 2019 elections — pushing through gun control measures that many gun proponents disagree with. These measures include background checks on all gun sales, a restriction of sales’ frequency, and allowing localities to ban firearms at public events.


Thousands of pro-gun rights protestors are expected to demonstrate in front of the Capitol building on Monday, and officials have learned of “credible” threats to public safety from out-of-state militias and hate groups.

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Here's some things to keep in mind. First of all, it's the anniversary of Martin Luther King day. It's not just a coincidence that this rally falls on MLK commemoration day. FBI has made several arrests of suspected neo-Nazis before the rally. The rally has attracted the attention of an on-line extremist group called 'the base' which is the english translation of al-Qaeda. People are coming to this rally with weapons and explosives, prepared to cause trouble. The governor has banned all weapons, so it's going to be a total mess and it will make Charlottesville look like a Mr. Rogers tea party.

Trump has stoked up passions for this gun-rights activist rally with a tweet.

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Despite the rabid fearmongering of the media, and the attempts to escalate things with rhetoric by ole Blackface/KKK Cosplay *he never told us which he actually was* Ralph 'Coonman; Northam, the protestors gathered peacefully, protested peacefully and patriotically, picked up after themselves and left the area cleaner than it was when they got there, and then left peacefully. People of all colors and 'races' attended, as did people of all orientations (numerous Gay and Trans folks were there protesting for their right to keep and bear arms).
 
bearpoker said:
Hold on, sit down, what I'm going to way will come as a shock and I want you to be prepared. There are other constitutional right besides the right to bear arms. The right to free speech. The right to peaceful assembly. The right to peacefully petition the government. These rights are endangered if extremists bent on violence are allowed to bring guns to this rally.
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Except these 'extremists' came, exercised every single on of those rights, and left peacefully.
 
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