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Chicago Violence: At Least 3 Killed, 7 Injured in Weekend Shootings

They already exist. CRED Partners with corporations and helps place troubled young men and women with companies with defined career paths beyond making sandwiches at subway. Arne Duncan's mission: Stopping gun violence with CRED

Thank you for sharing that! It's positively inspirational! I honestly believe that people need to be able to see that they can have goals, and then help them work toward those goals.

What a great guy!
 
Thank you for sharing that! It's positively inspirational! I honestly believe that people need to be able to see that they can have goals, and then help them work toward those goals.

What a great guy!
What inner-cities need is investment capital in those gang infested communities and the offer of opportunities. With Business Community’s Help, CRED Fights Chicago Violence with Jobs | Chicago News | WTTW. This is the story of a young man that was brought in to my firm by a partner and Arnie. I hate to say it but, Arnie and the current Secretary of education. Night and day.
 
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Yes, but the topic of this thread isn't the "internet."

Regardless of the topic it is not me who's 'causing deaths' by my 'silence', that's overly dramatic. We on an internet forum do not have that power. Nor is my 'reluctance' to discuss the issue contributing to Chicago's problems. I, using this platform, have zero influence.

But why is it always Chicago on this site? As others have pointed out Chicago has a higher number of gang related deaths but is hardly unique - a lot of places do.

Is it that Chicago has a Democratic mayor so the Right want to truck that city out as 'failed socialism' or something without detailing specifics? Or perhaps to claim the old talking point that restricting guns doesn't help 'because criminals still get them somehow'; or maybe to deflect from Trump's impeachment scandal.

Or frankly just because it's Tuesday and they need an excuse to say 'thug' because the word they really want is filtered out.

BTW your suggestions for how to solve the problem do have some merit.
 
I'm betting most gang members don't vote.

They do.

Every time a right winger goes on a rant about Chicago, we know Twump and the GOP had a bad day at the office. It's one of the go-to deflections.

Libs love to deflect their shortcomings on Trump, which were in place long before he even announced he was running for President.

And putting a picture of an African American in one's avatar doesn't cancel out the use of dog-whistle terms like 'thugs'.

And ad hominems and false diatribes about a profile pic won't beef up your lack of a logical argument. And for your record a thug is a criminal, which Chiraq has plenty of as evidenced by the article.
 
Dude STFU.

No. What are you going to do about it? Cry harder?

You don’t know anything about the city. And I doubt you could find it on a map.

Boo hoo someone is criticizing the lack of lib leadership in that disgrace of a city. Your trash posts are amusing at best.

It’s nothing but a political talking point for you.

And it's a good one. As long as your Libs allow Chiraq to be the warzone it continues to be this talking point will remain relevant. And we're on a political forum. You don't like it? Tough poop for you.

I’ve lived here my whole life.

I don't care if you live in a garbage bin. Your emotional rhetoric is what I ball up like a scratch sheet of paper. Fix your city since you live in it. Teens are walking to and from school and being shot every day by the thugs that plague your city.

When you start giving two ****s about gun crime in Republican controlled cities like Oklahoma City Oklahoma and Jacksonville Florida then you’ll have a leg to stand on. People are shot in those cities nearly every day.

The thread is about Chiraq. And so far you've failed to bring a compelling point of view.
 
In any case I was there for three days in November and never even saw a 'thug' or a gun.

Staying in a safe five star hotel in the business district downtown where the chances or you being struck by one of those thugs is slim to none doesn't count as you being in Chiraq. Leave downtown and see how nasty of a city Chiraq truly is.
 
But it's not a white guy, so they don't care.

Of course not. Has to be a mass shooter for them to cry about gun control and begging the government to prosecute him. Yet these thugs roam the neighborhoods of Chiraq killing innocent people and not a single sound from them.
 
Are you saying the OP isn't factual? Or, are you saying "right wingers" should not care when people are murdered -- if they're black?

I've been hearing about this issue for years now and there is some truth to the idea that the media (for the most part) ignores when black people are killed. Is that fair to blacks?



In my community, all the "thugs" are lily white. Attitudes like yours are part of the problem, not part of the solution, and as long as you're content to let certain groups of Americans die in silence -- they will continue to die.

And it really shows their racism towards blacks when they constantly tell conservatives to "stfu" about it. They want this issue hush hush because they want the blacks to remain on their political plantation.
 
What inner-cities need is investment capital in those gang infested communities and the offer of opportunities. With Business Community’s Help, CRED Fights Chicago Violence with Jobs | Chicago News | WTTW. This is the story of a young man that was brought in to my firm by a partner and Arnie. I hate to say it but, Arnie and the current Secretary of education. Night and day.


I agree that jobs are essential, and Duncan is right to be asking businesses to hire the young men. I visited the CRED website and it has lofty goals -- if it can reach its goal of reducing gun violence by 80% in five years -- or even a lesser amount -- it's on the right track.
 
Regardless of the topic it is not me who's 'causing deaths' by my 'silence', that's overly dramatic. We on an internet forum do not have that power. Nor is my 'reluctance' to discuss the issue contributing to Chicago's problems. I, using this platform, have zero influence.

But why is it always Chicago on this site? As others have pointed out Chicago has a higher number of gang related deaths but is hardly unique - a lot of places do.

Is it that Chicago has a Democratic mayor so the Right want to truck that city out as 'failed socialism' or something without detailing specifics? Or perhaps to claim the old talking point that restricting guns doesn't help 'because criminals still get them somehow'; or maybe to deflect from Trump's impeachment scandal.

Or frankly just because it's Tuesday and they need an excuse to say 'thug' because the word they really want is filtered out.

BTW your suggestions for how to solve the problem do have some merit.

I don't think it's always Chicago, but I agree that I see Chicago mentioned more often than other cities. I always figured it was because Chicago has a notoriously deep history of gang-type activity, dating all the way back to Al Capone and his "gang" who wreaked havoc on the city. Today's gangs are more localized than Capone's were, but they operate along the same lines of violence, group-controlled power, and making money by elusive means.

My point is that I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about it, but I do get what you're saying that some try to make it into a racial thing. The solution, I think, is to bring the conversation around to why it's happening. You may find some who say -- it's because they're black -- but they're wrong because the same type of thing happens in other areas where poverty is a problem. And, that's where I think the conversation would naturally go if we allowed it to go in that direction.

I think it's a matter of people helping people, and I'm really impressed by the CRED program HenryC linked to. I think we have to remember that we're all Americans and we all need to pull together to create solutions.
 
And it really shows their racism towards blacks when they constantly tell conservatives to "stfu" about it. They want this issue hush hush because they want the blacks to remain on their political plantation.


I do get their point because it's a conundrum -- they don't want blacks (as a race) blamed for the problem, but it won't go away unless it's addressed head-on. That makes the issue a bit of a political football. But, it has to be addressed rather than swept under the rug, because solutions are desperately needed.
 
The Liberal will never address the psychotic behavior going on right in their backyard. They care more about the votes of these thugs than they do about the innocent lives being needlessly taken. And Chicago has spilled so much blood over the last 40 years I'm surprised the city isn't abandoned.

And before I hear the moans about gun control Chicago has some of the strictest policies on procuring a legal firearm, and yet the gun violence and overall crime rates are record numbers, annually.

Chicago Violence: At Least 3 Killed, 7 Injured in Weekend Shootings – NBC Chicago

It's because their backyard isn't their backyard. Chicago is segregated. I live 5 miles from a minority area - there's crime that goes on there but I don't care at all, since it's not my backyard.
 
Didn't say you were.

You did. Stop backtracking.

I said you're being dishonest by pretending the obvious failure of a single city ban means no gun control can work.

You're being dishonest by even attempting to now claim that gun control has ever worked.
 
It's because their backyard isn't their backyard. Chicago is segregated. I live 5 miles from a minority area - there's crime that goes on there but I don't care at all, since it's not my backyard.

It's their backyard. Libs have majority political control over Chiraq.
 
The Liberal will never address the psychotic behavior going on right in their backyard. They care more about the votes of these thugs than they do about the innocent lives being needlessly taken. And Chicago has spilled so much blood over the last 40 years I'm surprised the city isn't abandoned.

And before I hear the moans about gun control Chicago has some of the strictest policies on procuring a legal firearm, and yet the gun violence and overall crime rates are record numbers, annually.

Chicago Violence: At Least 3 Killed, 7 Injured in Weekend Shootings – NBC Chicago

Have any suggestions as to how to improve the situation or is this just a bitchin' session for republicans?
 
No. What are you going to do about it? Cry harder?



Boo hoo someone is criticizing the lack of lib leadership in that disgrace of a city. Your trash posts are amusing at best.



And it's a good one. As long as your Libs allow Chiraq to be the warzone it continues to be this talking point will remain relevant. And we're on a political forum. You don't like it? Tough poop for you.



I don't care if you live in a garbage bin. Your emotional rhetoric is what I ball up like a scratch sheet of paper. Fix your city since you live in it. Teens are walking to and from school and being shot every day by the thugs that plague your city.



The thread is about Chiraq. And so far you've failed to bring a compelling point of view.
At least you admit that you don’t care about the roots or solutions to inner-city gun violence. As long as you can score political internet points then you’re happy. Go take a look at OK city local news and look at their rash of shootings over the weekend or Jacksonville Florida’s. But those cities aren’t controlled by Democrats so no political Internet points for you. The solutions to ending inner-city gang gun violence is business reaching out with job opportunities such as Arnie Duncan’s program CRED as well as investment capital in those disenfranchised problem areas. And no, gang members do not vote. Many of them have criminal records and a large number are under 18 years old. They care about voting about as much as they do about crocheting.
 
The Liberal will never address the psychotic behavior going on right in their backyard. They care more about the votes of these thugs than they do about the innocent lives being needlessly taken. And Chicago has spilled so much blood over the last 40 years I'm surprised the city isn't abandoned.

And before I hear the moans about gun control Chicago has some of the strictest policies on procuring a legal firearm, and yet the gun violence and overall crime rates are record numbers, annually.



Chicago is a nice place. If you visit, you'd never know there was a problem.

The gang activity is in 1 or 2 neighborhoods out of a hundred neighborhoods.
 
It's because their backyard isn't their backyard. Chicago is segregated. I live 5 miles from a minority area - there's crime that goes on there but I don't care at all, since it's not my backyard.
I live in Rogers Park which including Andersonville are the most ethnically diverse neighborhoods in the city and probably the country. East Indian, Orthodox Jewish, Vietnamese, Nigerian, Mexican, Guatemalan, Ethiopian and Swedish. These are the ethnicities that immediately come to mind. A bland demographic breakdown in Rogers Park alone is 24% white 24% black and 24% Hispanic. I don’t consider that segregation.
 
Chicago is a nice place. If you visit, you'd never know there was a problem.

The gang activity is in 1 or 2 neighborhoods out of a hundred neighborhoods.
You’re pretty much correct. Gang violence is concentrated in a few neighborhoods on the south and west sides. And it does spill over onto the north side occasionally.
 
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