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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

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    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday said he's "1,000 percent confident" Russia was responsible for hacking the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as part of an effort to interfere in the 2016 election, dismissing the theory that Ukraine played a role in the breach.....


    "I have no evidence [Ukraine] did. Russia stole the emails, not the Ukraine," he added.

    Asked about whether Trump was muddying his defense by pushing the claim, Graham said he thinks it's "always wrong to say things that can't be proven."


    Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC | TheHill

    Wow, even Graham shreds the latest "defense" of trump. to be clear, its not news that the "Ukrainians did it" was a lie. We've always known that. Its news that he's actually saying it.
    I'm even more certain than Graham that the DNC material was not hacked, it was leaked. Forensics work against you Lindsey.

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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    I think it’s a fair to ask if Biden’s missions to Ukraine were to encourage them to work against Trump and republicans in general. Ukraine under the Obama Admin was and still is a corrupt rathole that cannot be written off by partisan hacks. After, no investigation seems too outrageous if the target is a Republican.

    The bigger question is why are democrats not in favor of an investigation? Or was there only one Republican Manafort, and they are protecting the democrat ones?

    And before you TDS rage, you don’t know squat unless you are a part of it. It is an open question. And one I am not afraid to get the answer too.
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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    poor Obo, Ukraine did not "meddle" in our election. I put "meddle" in quotes because you obviously have a magical definition. Someone in Ukraine leaked the fact that manafort was getting illegal payouts from a pro Russian party. You just don't get to equate that to the govt of Russia using its resources to actively attack our democracy to help trump win.

    and fyi, trump and his house stooges are saying Ukraine hacked us



    Here's testimony from the senior director for Europe and Russia on the National Security Council.

    Based on questions and statements I have heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that Russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country—and that perhaps, somehow, for some reason, Ukraine did. This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves.

    https://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ght=propagated (Fiona Hill Testifies ‘Fictions’ on Ukraine Pushed by Trump Help Russia)
    Strange, still upset that the Ukraine was still meddling, and now you're just going to throw in whatever you can...

    I honestly don't' care what Trump, or his people say. They have just as capable of being wrong as you are.
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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday said he's "1,000 percent confident" Russia was responsible for hacking the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as part of an effort to interfere in the 2016 election, dismissing the theory that Ukraine played a role in the breach.....


    "I have no evidence [Ukraine] did. Russia stole the emails, not the Ukraine," he added.

    Asked about whether Trump was muddying his defense by pushing the claim, Graham said he thinks it's "always wrong to say things that can't be proven."


    Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC | TheHill

    Wow, even Graham shreds the latest "defense" of trump. to be clear, its not news that the "Ukrainians did it" was a lie. We've always known that. Its news that he's actually saying it.

    So is Graham still calling for an investigation into the Biden's? It appears so....

    Push to investigate Bidens sets up potential for Senate turf war | TheHill
    DEMOCRAT 2020

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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Yes, he did by referring to the English origins of American law

    However, Prof Turley also also agreed with the other scholars that “it is possible to impeach a president for noncriminal acts.”

    Turley made no statement in regards to Trump acting like an absolute monarch, though others have mentioned the similarities.

    Yes, public displays of childish idiocy does invite derision from adults and also a desire to educate the ignorant - which was what the "three propagandists" tried to provide to the hearing, though it was rather obvious that some attendees seemingly preferred "childish behaviour" over adult-like actions.



    1) There were no "Democrat-Socialists" on the Congressional Panel, there were however Democratic Representatives and some others who cast shame upon their party's history of more adult-style behaviour.

    2) Very adult-like to cast aspersions upon a person who has a differing political viewpoint but not unexpected. Personally, I viewed it as another statement about Trump's apparent desire to make himself King, a monarch with the ability to ennoble people.

    3) The thing about skunks, you don't know they are nearby unless they see you as a danger, that is if nobody within a mile of your location has upset one. If you happen upon a skunk and it starts to "dance" - run away. Did you know that skunks are immune to snake venom? They like eating snakes.
    That's an interesting bit of info on Skunks being immune to Snake venom.

    The link below shows Matt Gaetz asking if any of the Constitutional experts called by the Democrat-Socialists have personal knowledge of a single material fact in the Schiff report, there was silence.

    In this case, silence speaks volumes.

    Three of them, all obviously Trump haters, spent the entire hearing employing the presumption of guilt. They based their firmly held presumptions on absolutely nothing. According to their silence, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

    This, again, speaks volumes.

    In truth, there is one person who had actual, first hand testimony of what the President said he wanted and how he said he wanted it. Sondland testified that Trump said he wanted Zelensky "to do the right thing".

    So far, this is the only evidence giving an insight into what the president wanted and how he wanted it. More importantly, what he ordered and how he ordered it.

    EVERYTHING else is assumption, presumption, wild guessing, made up crap and outright lies.

    3/4 of the "Constitutional Law Experts" accept the assumption, presumption, wild guessing, made up crap and outright lies as evidence. Hacks!

    One of them has fantasies that Trump named his 13 year old son "Baron" in an effort to install him as a member of a yet to be established American royalty. She displays issues that reach far beyond political bias.

    WATCH: Republican’s ‘Raise Your Hand’ Question At Impeachment Hearing Goes Viral | The Daily Wire
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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    Code, that response is just sad. The reason you’ve posted such a convoluted mess is because you’re desperately looking for any excuse to not accept that Trump is lying. How you’ve made it this far without acknowledging he’s a lying POS is not really surprising. It’s just how cults work.

    anyhoo, what your cult leaders are not telling you is that trump is lying about "Ukraine meddling". And he's literally spewing a "Ukraine not Russia" lie. that's just trump again sucking up to putin. And the only reason we got this "Ukraine not Russia" lie was he's trying to lie his way out of impeachment. I'm guessing you missed the part where every witness confirmed quid pro quo even the republican witnesses. Nunes was so exasperated he referred to his own witnesses as "your witnesses".

    Please link to the quote from Trump saying "Ukraine not Russia".

    There was only one witness who claimed to have spoken to Trump directly asking what Trump wanted. He testified that he wanted the Ambassador to tell Zelensky to do the right thing.

    Everyone else only repeated assumptions, presumptions, wild guessing, made up crap and outright lies and did so repeating second, third and fourth hand rumors.

    Of course, you buy into the repeated assumptions, presumptions, wild guessing, made up crap and outright lies and do so repeating second, third and fourth hand rumors.

    No surprise there.
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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    Nothing in your response is true.
    Please link to the evidence showing that any charge in this sham impeachment is based on an actual fact that occurred in the real world.

    So far, there is one eye witness account giving an insight into the thinking of the president in this. That eye witness was Sondland.

    He said that he was directed to tell Zelensky to do the the right thing.

    Is telling someone to do the right thing a crime? How perverted must a person's view of the world be to determine that doing the right thing is a wrong thing?

    To the Democrat-Socialists, apparently, yes, doing the right thing is a crime. This sham impeachment proves the degree to which their perversion dictates their world view.
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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday said he's "1,000 percent confident" Russia was responsible for hacking the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as part of an effort to interfere in the 2016 election, dismissing the theory that Ukraine played a role in the breach.....


    "I have no evidence [Ukraine] did. Russia stole the emails, not the Ukraine," he added.

    Asked about whether Trump was muddying his defense by pushing the claim, Graham said he thinks it's "always wrong to say things that can't be proven."


    Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC | TheHill

    Wow, even Graham shreds the latest "defense" of trump. to be clear, its not news that the "Ukrainians did it" was a lie. We've always known that. Its news that he's actually saying it.
    That's encouraging. I like Lindsay Graham - this is the first time in weeks I've said "like" as opposed to "used to like." I'm happy he seems to be regaining his good sense and nature. He also stated that Congress won't be sending each other subpoenas when impeachment reaches the Senate. Good for him.

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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    He needs to tell his boy Kennedy.
    I have a feeling Kennedy will come around.

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    Re: Graham says he's '1,000 percent confident' Russia, not Ukraine, hacked DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Please link to the evidence showing that any charge in this sham impeachment is based on an actual fact that occurred in the real world.

    So far, there is one eye witness account giving an insight into the thinking of the president in this. That eye witness was Sondland.

    He said that he was directed to tell Zelensky to do the the right thing.

    Is telling someone to do the right thing a crime? How perverted must a person's view of the world be to determine that doing the right thing is a wrong thing?

    To the Democrat-Socialists, apparently, yes, doing the right thing is a crime. This sham impeachment proves the degree to which their perversion dictates their world view.
    You sweet boy. This is how the real world works: Just because the lookout spots the feds before money changes hands, doesn't mean there wasn't a drug deal going on.

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