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[W:179]Trump, Who Slashed Taxes by $1.5 Trillion, Is Pushing Cuts to Food Stamps

Re: Trump, Who Slashed Taxes by $1.5 Trillion, Is Pushing Cuts to Food Stamps

Glad that you admit that it is mostly poor, conservative whites who are on the dole in red states.
That is somewhat true. I forget the per-capita numbers, and you assessment may actually be correct. But I have repeatedly addressed this issue. They use a federal average for the numbers. Red states are lower cost living states. For that reason, jobs also pay less. Because jobs pay less, theye are more of a percentage that qualify for SNAP and other types of assistance.

It's real simple, and it's a problem of the one-size-fits-all mentality of the feds.

But lets' be honest here...you know perfectly well that the right, for decades, has put the onus of welfare on minorities when it was really the conservative whites all along.
What facts do you have? I only see propaganda.

Please elaborate.
 
There is nothing except right-wing orthodoxy that thinks that Democrats "want leaders who will tell them what to do." That statement has no basis in facts. Ironically, it's the right-wing that's backing autocrats.

There is also no empirical evidence that suggests that lower taxes on corporations or the rich produce economic booms in the American economy. None. The fact that conservatives continually believe that is evidence that they are not tethered to facts and evidence.

BOMBSHELL: Study Destroys Theory That Tax Cuts Spur Growth

The tax-cuts of 2017 were a particular dud, not producing the promised growth nor business investment.

I also don't know where you get the idea that Trump's growth rate is 4.2%. There was only an one quarter in his term where the GDP growth rate was originally measured at 4.2%. However, that was revised down to 3.5%. Moreover, it was only one quarter. That's not the average of all quarters. It's also not true that Obama's growth rate was 0.2%. You are just lying. It was more like 2% annual.

Here is the quarterly GDP growth rate since 2009.

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More reading for you:
9 charts comparing Trump economy to Obama, Bush administrations - Business Insider

You seem disinclined to focus on spending cuts as a means to strengthen the economy. What do you think of the robust $100 trillion in new democrat spending being proposed by our energetic democrat bozo candidates?
 
Re: Trump, Who Slashed Taxes by $1.5 Trillion, Is Pushing Cuts to Food Stamps

The short answer is "YES." The 2020 election is in less than a year. When do you think we should pass laws to secure elections from foreign interference and make them more accessible to voters?

Now you are backpedaling. Before, you were claiming that the Democrats in the House weren't doing anything with their time except impeachment. After I provided irrefutable proof that they passed nearly 400 bills and the Senate is merely sitting on them, you make a new argument -- 'they're moving too fast.' Then you can't claim that Democrats are doing nothing, can you? It's actually the Republicans in the Senate not earning their salaries. In any case, if the Senate doesn't think a particular bill is worthy, the proper action is to bring them to a vote and vote them down -- not send them off to the corn field to die of neglect.

I think you should study the bills passed in the house, and read them well. Note the record of why and why not, and look at the voting.

Then...

Why in hell should the senate consider the bills that pass with little or no republican support in the house? How can you guys seriously expect them to waste time on bills that if allowed a vote in the senate, will with no doubt, fail?

They have better things to do than waste time.

Why are the democrats wasting time passing bills they know will fail?

My only answer is the fool people like you.

If you want to blame someone, blame the democrats for their games.
 
Re: Trump, Who Slashed Taxes by $1.5 Trillion, Is Pushing Cuts to Food Stamps

The amazing thing is ..The US government gives (at least) 20 Billion dollars to the fossil fuel industry each year. Hell yeah..let's give billions to the industries that make untold billions in profit per year but at the same time, let's cut food stamps by 4.7 billion dollars to the poor. This hurtful illogical action staggers the #$%# mind. :( One other post says something like "More money back to the people"...Yeah..keep believing that Bulls*it...

Well there's a racial aspect to that as well as good old fashioned corruption. It's well known that industries like fossil fuels donate heavily to politicians, but it's also about white jobs. Coal miners (and farmers for that matter) apparently need subsidies when their industries flag, even as in the case of farmers, when they are directly disadvantaged by government policy such as new trade tariffs. There's no call for them to upskill, retrain, move or otherwise improve their circumstances: white voters want to see the government help them directly.

But when it comes to helping people of color, who before the racists scream "racism" (in a fit of highly ironic pique) it has been demonstrated are disproportionate beneficiaries of social programs like food stamps, oh no they have to "pull up their bootstraps" and "stand on their own two feet".
 
Re: Trump, Who Slashed Taxes by $1.5 Trillion, Is Pushing Cuts to Food Stamps

Yes. All the time. In fact my husband and I own a struggling convenience store. We accept EBT and we shop often to fill it. I may be still asleep but I'm not getting your point.

Convenience stores are notorious for being expensive. The price breakdown is not relevant to buying groceries at a real grocery store.

Buying ingredients for a meal is cheaper than buying prepared foods. But that does not really matter since it is not our choice what someone else wants to buy.

The concept of liberty is more important than your desire to dictate what other people eat.
 
Re: Trump, Who Slashed Taxes by $1.5 Trillion, Is Pushing Cuts to Food Stamps

Convenience stores are notorious for being expensive. The price breakdown is not relevant to buying groceries at a real grocery store.

Buying ingredients for a meal is cheaper than buying prepared foods. But that does not really matter since it is not our choice what someone else wants to buy.

The concept of liberty is more important than your desire to dictate what other people eat.

It's about access. If the poor and rural folks don't have access to supermarkets because there aren't any in their area...but there are plenty of fast food chains...then they don't really have a choice, do they?

• Low-income zip codes have 25 percent fewer chain supermarkets and 1.3 times as many convenience stores compared to middle-income zip codes. Predominantly black zip codes have about half the number of chain supermarkets compared to predominantly white zip codes, and predominantly Latino areas have only a third as many.46

• Low-income neighborhoods have half as many supermarkets as the wealthiest neighborhoods and four times as many smaller grocery stores, according to an assessment of 685 urban and rural census tracts in three states. The same study found four times as many supermarkets in predominantly white neighborhoods compared to predominantly black ones.38

• Another multistate study found that eight percent of African Americans live in a tract with a supermarket compared to 31 percent of whites.42


•Among affluent neighborhoods in Atlanta, those that are predominantly white have better grocery store access than those that are predominantly black, indicating that race may be a factor independent of income.30

• In West Louisville, Kentucky, a low-income African American community that suffers from high rates of diabetes, there is one supermarket for every 25,000 residents, compared to the county average of one
supermarket for every 12,500 residents.17

• In Washington, DC, the city’s lowest income wards (Wards 7 and 8) have one supermarket for every 70,000 people while two of the three highest-income wards (Wards 2 and 3) have one for every 11,881 people.20 One in five of the city’s food stamp recipients lives in a neighborhood without a grocery store.37

http://thefoodtrust.org/uploads/media_items/grocerygap.original.pdf
 
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I guess Obama should get credit for the economy improving from extremely bad to just bad, while the economy improved under Trump from bad to pretty good, relatively speaking.

Yes, but the debt based economics is going to crash hard and we can credit Reagan with starting that little storm..Also note that corporate debt is twice as high as the last crash so the next crash will be much bigger....
 
Yes, but the debt based economics is going to crash hard and we can credit Reagan with starting that little storm..

I credit the debt mess we are in to greedy politicians who made themselves rich allocating government spending to projects promoted by their big campaign donors.
 
I credit the debt mess we are in to greedy politicians who made themselves rich allocating government spending to projects promoted by their big campaign donors.

Capitalism is not self sustaining in the later years of operation so change is inevitable, the US is still using quantitative easing-not good. One of the reasons I voted for Trump was his campaign promise to pay down the debt yet he has made it worse not better.
 
Re: Trump, Who Slashed Taxes by $1.5 Trillion, Is Pushing Cuts to Food Stamps

It's about access. If the poor and rural folks don't have access to supermarkets because there aren't any in their area...but there are plenty of fast food chains...then they don't really have a choice, do they?

• Low-income zip codes have 25 percent fewer chain supermarkets and 1.3 times as many convenience stores compared to middle-income zip codes. Predominantly black zip codes have about half the number of chain supermarkets compared to predominantly white zip codes, and predominantly Latino areas have only a third as many.46

• Low-income neighborhoods have half as many supermarkets as the wealthiest neighborhoods and four times as many smaller grocery stores, according to an assessment of 685 urban and rural census tracts in three states. The same study found four times as many supermarkets in predominantly white neighborhoods compared to predominantly black ones.38

• Another multistate study found that eight percent of African Americans live in a tract with a supermarket compared to 31 percent of whites.42


•Among affluent neighborhoods in Atlanta, those that are predominantly white have better grocery store access than those that are predominantly black, indicating that race may be a factor independent of income.30

• In West Louisville, Kentucky, a low-income African American community that suffers from high rates of diabetes, there is one supermarket for every 25,000 residents, compared to the county average of one
supermarket for every 12,500 residents.17

• In Washington, DC, the city’s lowest income wards (Wards 7 and 8) have one supermarket for every 70,000 people while two of the three highest-income wards (Wards 2 and 3) have one for every 11,881 people.20 One in five of the city’s food stamp recipients lives in a neighborhood without a grocery store.37

http://thefoodtrust.org/uploads/media_items/grocerygap.original.pdf

My comment was in response to the poster that I was speaking too (not all expansive).

I agree with your point. But my point was that the government should not dictate what the poor eat.
 
I stand corrected. Trump's bailout to farmers who are being hurt by his tariffs isn't $16 billion, it's $28 billion.



So, Trump is cutting SNAP for people who don't make enough to buy food and paying farmers handouts who are hurt by his tariffs.

28 billion, that is chump change

Obama signs $956 billion farm bill

Obama signs $956 billion farm bill | TheHill
 
28 billion, that is chump change

Obama signs $956 billion farm bill

Obama signs $956 billion farm bill | TheHill

The bill authorizes $956 billion in spending over the next TEN YEARS! Elements of that bill include Food stamps and nutrition; crop insurance; Conservation and the Commodity programs. The entire Food Stamp (SNAP) program ($756 billion) is in that bill.
 
Yes, but the debt based economics is going to crash hard and we can credit Reagan with starting that little storm..Also note that corporate debt is twice as high as the last crash so the next crash will be much bigger....

I do believe a crash is coming. How else is the US going to be able to forgive itself of its obscene debt?
 
I do believe a crash is coming. How else is the US going to be able to forgive itself of its obscene debt?
...says the poster who supported trillions in tax cuts in 2017.
 
Capitalism is not self sustaining in the later years of operation so change is inevitable, the US is still using quantitative easing-not good. One of the reasons I voted for Trump was his campaign promise to pay down the debt yet he has made it worse not better.

Trump will not be paying down the debt no matter what he claimed. At this point nobody can pay down the debt, especially stupidazz bozo fresh congressional starlets with tens of trillions of dollars spending addictions.
 
War is a good way to do it...But you'd better be on the winning side.

The real war to end all wars will soon be fought in Israel and signaling the end of that war will be the triumphant return of the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
Re: Trump, Who Slashed Taxes by $1.5 Trillion, Is Pushing Cuts to Food Stamps

I did answer your question.

Post the answer here. But be aware that asking a question is not answering a question.
 
The bill authorizes $956 billion in spending over the next TEN YEARS! Elements of that bill include Food stamps and nutrition; crop insurance; Conservation and the Commodity programs. The entire Food Stamp (SNAP) program ($756 billion) is in that bill.

Wow, did you read that article? Here is a clip from it.

"He said that the bill saves money even though its total $16.6 billion in savings, including $8 billion in food stamp cuts, is less than Obama wanted to cut from farm programs in past budgets."

Gee, Obama cut way more than Trump did. Why did he want to harm minorities?
 
Wow, look what a little more research turns up on Obama's food stamp aid cut.

"The farm bill cuts $8 billion in food stamps by curtailing the ability of individuals to become eligible for food aid by virtue of receiving heating aid."

He gave them the option of either having heat or eating. The Dims had no problem with that.
 
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