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Justice IG to testify next month on alleged 2016 surveillance abuse

JANFU said:
Not yet. Weaponizing Govt Depts, as Trump has done, I hope is an aberration
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You mean like the IRS denying tax exempt status of conservative get out the vote campaigns to influence an election? Or using the FBI to fabricate a Russian collusion story to influence an election?

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vesper said:
From different accounts that are not CNN or MSNbc, Huffington Post, Media Matters, Daily Kos, NYT, WaPo.
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Seandirect.com?
 
JANFU said:
Not yet. Weaponizing Govt Depts, as Trump has done, I hope is an aberration
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They shoulda thought about that before they weaponized the FBI against Trump.

This is a classic case of the chickens coming home to roost. Although, I doubt the IG's report will be very daming; embarrassing, at best and that's a maybe. The IG is a career bureaucrat. He isn't going to endanger his career by burning fellow bureaucrats.
 
Aberration said:
You mean like the IRS denying tax exempt status of conservative get out the vote campaigns to influence an election? Or using the FBI to fabricate a Russian collusion story to influence an election?

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That's only wrong when it doesn't go their way.
 
Lutherf said:
There would probably the same rioting, fires and looting as we saw the day Obama got elected.
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Mr Person said:
Those liberals are just the scum of the earth, aren't they? No matter what the reality or hypothetical, you just know they're doing the wrong thing. The poopyfaces!


Know what we did see before and after Obama got elected? Years and years of not-liberals accusing him lying about his birthplace, lying about his religion, being racist against white people, hating America, wanting to destroy America (trying to as well), using global warming to transfer wealth to third world countries and several more boatloads of insane reactionary ****. Joke all you like, but...just no.

Now, if wrongdoing occurred, it should be addressed. But it'd be nice if you lot spoke up about FISA abuses 33,000+ warrants ago rather than just the one time one lead to discovery that your dear leader was naughty. It'd also be nice if, assuming there is wrongdoing shown, if your lot do NOT immediately try using the Carter Page FISA warrant to claim either that nothing happened or that it's OK, or worse try to spin it towards the completely unrelated Ukraine thing.

Won't hold my breath though.
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Lutherf said:
Well, the birthers and religion were pretty much a fringe thing but racism, hating America, etc. that was pretty legit and, frankly, it's still going on with his fan base.
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But they were not a "fringe thing." That's the point.

Over several years (4ish I want to say, maybe a bit into 5), polls recorded roughly 40% of self-identified GOPers saying they believed - and these were in separate questions - he was lying about his place of birth, in turn religion. Roughly 20% continued to say they were "not sure."

How many pre-"resistance" liberals would we need to falsely claim to support the GOP just to POE republicans?











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I feel like I missed something.....









YOU ELECTED MR BIRTHER
 
Lutherf said:
Justice IG to testify next month on alleged 2016 surveillance abuse | TheHill



Granted, this would not be the first scheduled testimony that didn't take place if it falls apart but it does give an indication that some of this 2016 stuff will finally get a proper airing.

My guess, for the record, is that Horowitz will make it clear that Trump actually started the investigation into himself as part of a scheme hatched with Putin to discredit Clinton and Schiff. I predict that 15 minutes after this hearing happens we'll see CNN announce that it has a highly placed anonymous source that will release all the documentation proving that Trump set himself up for the sole purpose of promoting his brand internationally.



Actually, it will be kind of interesting to see what comes of this. There was a good bit of political game playing when the initial FISA was released and accusations flew from both sides of the aisle so it will be entertaining to get a third party perspective regarding what actually went on.
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A talking head was saying it’s ~ 1000 pages, due out ~12/11 or so they say. You can be sure that ain’t 1000 letters of commendation. AND that is just DoJ.

This explains the faux impeachment campaign strategy.
 
chuckiechan said:
A talking head was saying it’s ~ 1000 pages, due out ~12/11 or so they say. You can be sure that ain’t 1000 letters of commendation. AND that is just DoJ.

This explains the faux impeachment campaign strategy.
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The talking heads have said a lot about a lot of things. I'm not holding my breath on this report any more than I am for any others. I'm somewhat more optimistic here than I have been with some other stuff but that's only because I've seen the redacted FISA application and read the committee memos regarding it. In this case I at least have some basis for what to expect.
 
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