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Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky's Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

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Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

OscarLevant said:
Trump won Ky by 30 points in 2016, this is a very red state. This is a bad omen for repubs in 2020
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This is great! I guess there goes the narrative that impeachment is ruining the Dems. Moscow Mitch might not sleep too good tonight.


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Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

Bevin had all sorts of issues and Beshear's father was a popular governor. I will agree it might be seen as a slap against Trump given he campaigned for Bevin last night but there were tons of ads of people who said

I suport Trump, and I still support Trump but I am not voting for Bevin again
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

it appears the Libertarian might be the reason-the last report I JUST saw has Bevin and Beshear at 49% each and the libertarian at 2%
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

CBS has yet to call the race. BTW Beshear was up 10% in the polls a few months ago
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

TurtleDude said:
Bevin had all sorts of issues and Beshear's father was a popular governor. I will agree it might be seen as a slap against Trump given he campaigned for Bevin last night but there were tons of ads of people who said

I suport Trump, and I still support Trump but I am not voting for Bevin again
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Yeah, we predicted that would be the narrative, but Trump won by 30%, still, you gotta admit, it's not a good omen for repubs in 2020, and where were all those "I'd rather be a Russian than a democrat" Trumpsters? Hmmmmm? They fell asleep? what?
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Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

OscarLevant said:
and where were all those "I'd rather be a Russian than a democrat" Trumpsters? Hmmmmm? They fell asleep? what?
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Maybe they read the transcript.
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

Maybe the jacket was too much.

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Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

OscarLevant said:
Yeah, we predicted that would be the narrative, but Trump won by 30%, still, you gotta admit, it's not a good omen for repubs in 2020, and where were all those "I'd rather be a Russian than a democrat" Trumpsters? Hmmmmm? They fell asleep? what?
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Do you think Trump will lose Kentucky? I was amazed at how the Beshear camp really stressed voters who claimed they were still Trump supporters but didn't like Bevin-who did come off as arrogant and elitist.
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

Apparently Kentucky likes socialism.
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

Dans La Lune said:
Apparently Kentucky likes socialism.
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They certainly used to. Appalachia saw some of the most brutal bloodshed during the fight against capitalist control during the early 20th century. If you ever want to read some really nutty stuff, look up the Battle of Blair Mountain - ten thousand miners once laid siege to an entrenched police position, and even made some decent advances before the National Guard put down the uprising. The battle may have been a loss, but the war for the right to organize labor unions sure as hell succeeded.
 
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TurtleDude said:
Bevin had all sorts of issues and Beshear's father was a popular governor. I will agree it might be seen as a slap against Trump given he campaigned for Bevin last night but there were tons of ads of people who said

I suport Trump, and I still support Trump but I am not voting for Bevin again
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...but its consistent with most of the races we have seen since Trump was elected.... an erosion of Republican performance vis a vis what had been normal before Trump. Democrats are winning in districts that once favored Republicans; Republicans are barely winning where they once won going away. This is similar to many of the interim and special elections of 2017 and 2018 that served as the canary for 2018. Is this indicative of 2020? It certainly will not serve to bolster the confidence of Republicans. Some restless nights ahead at the RNC.
 
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upsideguy said:
...but its consistent with most of the races we have seen since Trump was elected.... an erosion of Republican performance vis a vis what had been normal before Trump. Democrats are winning in districts that once favored Republicans; Republicans are barely winning where they once won going away.
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CBS is still saying it is too close to call.

hard to say
 
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Jesse Booth said:
They certainly used to. Appalachia saw some of the most brutal bloodshed during the fight against capitalist control during the early 20th century. If you ever want to read some really nutty stuff, look up the Battle of Blair Mountain - ten thousand miners once laid siege to an entrenched police position, and even made some decent advances before the National Guard put down the uprising. The battle may have been a loss, but the war for the right to organize labor unions sure as hell succeeded.
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I wonder to this day what was wrong with those miners back then? They had jobs in the most hellish backbreaking conditions many dying from black lung but they had jobs the ungrateful bastards. This is the way republicans think of business. To hell that the job is life threatening and medically deadly because after all the owners of the mine probably never stepped foot inside of it. Pay a pittance to those who are making you even more wealthy and tell them they should be happy to have a job. Unions bad, living wages bad, keeping the top ten percent the top ten percent, good.
 
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bongsaway said:
I wonder to this day what was wrong with those miners back then? They had jobs in the most hellish backbreaking conditions many dying from black lung but they had jobs the ungrateful bastards. This is the way republicans think of business. To hell that the job is life threatening and medically deadly because after all the owners of the mine probably never stepped foot inside of it. Pay a pittance to those who are making you even more wealthy and tell them they should be happy to have a job. Unions bad, living wages bad, keeping the top ten percent the top ten percent, good.
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Good meme, but quotation marks are your friend.
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

Been watching this, all counties are in, but I believe it hasn't been officially sanctioned by the Election Board. Trump and the RNC went all-in on this, and they accused Beshear of impeachment non-stop. It didn't work. And the Dem-GOP numbers in the urban, and especially surburban areas, were far more Dem leaning than the previous election.

So good job, Dems. One Statehouse down, many more to go. Learn the lesson: Run the right candidate for the local race. Give them the room they need. Be the inclusive big-tent party.
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

upsideguy said:
...but its consistent with most of the races we have seen since Trump was elected.... an erosion of Republican performance vis a vis what had been normal before Trump. Democrats are winning in districts that once favored Republicans; Republicans are barely winning where they once won going away. This is similar to many of the interim and special elections of 2017 and 2018 that served as the canary for 2018. Is this indicative of 2020? It certainly will not serve to bolster the confidence of Republicans. Some restless nights ahead at the RNC.
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I can't stop chuckling at this bon mot:

Tom Arnold on Twitter: "Today Kentucky spoke with one voice loud & clear: “We are all Rand Paul’s next door neighbor” #KYGov"
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

PoliSciXtina said:
This is great! I guess there goes the narrative that impeachment is ruining the Dems. Moscow Mitch might not sleep too good tonight.


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Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

bongsaway said:
I wonder to this day what was wrong with those miners back then? They had jobs in the most hellish backbreaking conditions many dying from black lung but they had jobs the ungrateful bastards. This is the way republicans think of business. To hell that the job is life threatening and medically deadly because after all the owners of the mine probably never stepped foot inside of it. Pay a pittance to those who are making you even more wealthy and tell them they should be happy to have a job. Unions bad, living wages bad, keeping the top ten percent the top ten percent, good.
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Those in non-diverse areas will almost always vote culture over their own economic well being.
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

TurtleDude said:
CBS is still saying it is too close to call.

hard to say
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5000 votes out of 1.4M total votes is pretty close. I am actually surprised there is not an automatic re-count provision.

Either way, however, my point stands.... the Dems have been "over-performing" since Trump was elected.
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

upsideguy said:
5000 votes out of 1.4M total votes is pretty close. I am actually surprised there is not an automatic re-count provision.

Either way, however, my point stands.... the Dems have been "over-performing" since Trump was elected.
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Not much different than when Obama and Bush and Clinton were in office. CBS just called it for Beshear. one commentator I heard said the libertarian cost Bevin reelection.
 
Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

TurtleDude said:
Not much different than when Obama and Bush and Clinton were in office. CBS just called it for Beshear. one commentator I heard said the libertarian cost Bevin reelection.
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Does it matter? It's not a blame game. The vote is in bevin lost.
 
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