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    Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    Apparently Kentucky likes socialism.
    They certainly used to. Appalachia saw some of the most brutal bloodshed during the fight against capitalist control during the early 20th century. If you ever want to read some really nutty stuff, look up the Battle of Blair Mountain - ten thousand miners once laid siege to an entrenched police position, and even made some decent advances before the National Guard put down the uprising. The battle may have been a loss, but the war for the right to organize labor unions sure as hell succeeded.
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    Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Bevin had all sorts of issues and Beshear's father was a popular governor. I will agree it might be seen as a slap against Trump given he campaigned for Bevin last night but there were tons of ads of people who said

    I suport Trump, and I still support Trump but I am not voting for Bevin again
    ...but its consistent with most of the races we have seen since Trump was elected.... an erosion of Republican performance vis a vis what had been normal before Trump. Democrats are winning in districts that once favored Republicans; Republicans are barely winning where they once won going away. This is similar to many of the interim and special elections of 2017 and 2018 that served as the canary for 2018. Is this indicative of 2020? It certainly will not serve to bolster the confidence of Republicans. Some restless nights ahead at the RNC.
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    Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ...but its consistent with most of the races we have seen since Trump was elected.... an erosion of Republican performance vis a vis what had been normal before Trump. Democrats are winning in districts that once favored Republicans; Republicans are barely winning where they once won going away.
    CBS is still saying it is too close to call.

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    Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    They certainly used to. Appalachia saw some of the most brutal bloodshed during the fight against capitalist control during the early 20th century. If you ever want to read some really nutty stuff, look up the Battle of Blair Mountain - ten thousand miners once laid siege to an entrenched police position, and even made some decent advances before the National Guard put down the uprising. The battle may have been a loss, but the war for the right to organize labor unions sure as hell succeeded.
    I wonder to this day what was wrong with those miners back then? They had jobs in the most hellish backbreaking conditions many dying from black lung but they had jobs the ungrateful bastards. This is the way republicans think of business. To hell that the job is life threatening and medically deadly because after all the owners of the mine probably never stepped foot inside of it. Pay a pittance to those who are making you even more wealthy and tell them they should be happy to have a job. Unions bad, living wages bad, keeping the top ten percent the top ten percent, good.
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    Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    I wonder to this day what was wrong with those miners back then? They had jobs in the most hellish backbreaking conditions many dying from black lung but they had jobs the ungrateful bastards. This is the way republicans think of business. To hell that the job is life threatening and medically deadly because after all the owners of the mine probably never stepped foot inside of it. Pay a pittance to those who are making you even more wealthy and tell them they should be happy to have a job. Unions bad, living wages bad, keeping the top ten percent the top ten percent, good.
    Good meme, but quotation marks are your friend.
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    Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

    Been watching this, all counties are in, but I believe it hasn't been officially sanctioned by the Election Board. Trump and the RNC went all-in on this, and they accused Beshear of impeachment non-stop. It didn't work. And the Dem-GOP numbers in the urban, and especially surburban areas, were far more Dem leaning than the previous election.

    So good job, Dems. One Statehouse down, many more to go. Learn the lesson: Run the right candidate for the local race. Give them the room they need. Be the inclusive big-tent party.
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    Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ...but its consistent with most of the races we have seen since Trump was elected.... an erosion of Republican performance vis a vis what had been normal before Trump. Democrats are winning in districts that once favored Republicans; Republicans are barely winning where they once won going away. This is similar to many of the interim and special elections of 2017 and 2018 that served as the canary for 2018. Is this indicative of 2020? It certainly will not serve to bolster the confidence of Republicans. Some restless nights ahead at the RNC.
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    Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

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    This is great! I guess there goes the narrative that impeachment is ruining the Dems. Moscow Mitch might not sleep too good tonight.


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    Re: Democrat Andy Beshear just unseated Kentucky’s Trump-loving governor Matt Bevin

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    I wonder to this day what was wrong with those miners back then? They had jobs in the most hellish backbreaking conditions many dying from black lung but they had jobs the ungrateful bastards. This is the way republicans think of business. To hell that the job is life threatening and medically deadly because after all the owners of the mine probably never stepped foot inside of it. Pay a pittance to those who are making you even more wealthy and tell them they should be happy to have a job. Unions bad, living wages bad, keeping the top ten percent the top ten percent, good.
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