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Poll: 62% of Trump supporters say nothing he could do would change opinion

Sabre said:
You are quite loose with labeling people cultists. If committing yourself to a President makes you a member of a cult then you will have to admit that all those who idolized Obama, no matter what, were and are cultists.
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When one commits themselves to a leader and stays committed regardless of what that leader does, they are a cult member. Their very mindset is Trump Uber Alles.
 
rocket88 said:
Not a cult. Totally not a cult.
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It's not a cult. It's just partisanship, attached more to an individual than a party or ideology.
 
rocket88 said:
He could literally machine gun an antifa protest - on his own - and they'd cheer his hands on approach.
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He and many of his supporters talk positively of a civil war. They are literally rationalizing violence and killing Americans for a greater good
 
Sabre said:
You are quite loose with labeling people cultists. If committing yourself to a President makes you a member of a cult then you will have to admit that all those who idolized Obama, no matter what, were and are cultists.
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Many of the Obama people were cultists. I'm not sure that he would have had the support of 60 percent of his voters "no matter what."

I think probably a lot of the people who answered thst haven't thought out the "no matter what." Suspended the Constitution and ruled as a monarch? Would 62 percent support that? I have no doubt some would, and with Trump it seems that number may be on the high side.
 
Visbek said:
It's not a cult. It's just partisanship, attached more to an individual than a party or ideology.
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Attached to an individual, it is a cult. Like with religion, believe in Jesus, great. Believe in David Koresh? Now it's a cult.
 
SheWolf said:
He and many of his supporters talk positively of a civil war. They are literally rationalizing violence and killing Americans for a greater good
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They overestimate their support. If push came to shove, i have a little more faith that the generals would side with the Constitution.

I have said many times that military action is exactly what it will take to remove Trump from power even after 2 terms. I still think it will, but as of now I have faith in the men and women serving the country.
 
HenryChinaski said:
When one commits themselves to a leader and stays committed regardless of what that leader does, they are a cult member. Their very mindset is Trump Uber Alles.
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As I said, if that is true then so is the cult of Obama, many who still follow him to this day. If you are willing to accept that Obamaites are cultist I will accept your labeling of those who support the President.
 
Visbek said:
It's not a cult. It's just partisanship, attached more to an individual than a party or ideology.
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Sorry, when you follow a leader no matter what he does....and then you go so far to even state that it doesn't matter what he does, you are in a cult. It is the very definition of cult like behavior: societies norms are irrelevant; right and wrong is defined by our leader.

10 Signs You’re Probably In A Cult - Sam & Tanner - Medium

If you find yourself unwilling to see the faults of the leader AND/or consistently overlooking them, you are a cult member. Dismissing this behavior as simple partisanship is to be in denial. Partisans are not divorced from right and wrong; partisans will abandon the leader that has gone too far.
 
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rocket88 said:
Many of the Obama people were cultists. I'm not sure that he would have had the support of 60 percent of his voters "no matter what."

I think probably a lot of the people who answered thst haven't thought out the "no matter what." Suspended the Constitution and ruled as a monarch? Would 62 percent support that? I have no doubt some would, and with Trump it seems that number may be on the high side.
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Maybe some would, but that would be few. I have no doubt that "some would" also on the left, especially those who profess to want socialism and some now even saying communism is now possibly a good idea.
 
PirateMk1 said:
So 45 million Americans are part of a cult?
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Apparently.

Or they just have no imagination at all.

They can't imagine anything trump could do?

I can imagine a huge number of things a person could do that would make me vote against them.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
If you support someone completely independent of their actions and there's nothing they could ever do to make you lose their support, yes, you're in a cult. If 45 million happens to be that number, then that's what it is.

He once joked about being able to murder someone on the street and he wouldn't lose supporters. We all laughed and shook our heads, but it turns out he was absolutely right. Most of you are so drunk on his kool-aid you would defend him, scream that it's all a lie, and start attacking the prosecutors and cops that try to bring him to justice.
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While he continued to eat a baby on live TV.

It was a liberal baby, you see, and trump needed the nourishment only a baby can provide to continue to make America great again.

Why do you hate America?

(Which I wish was a joke.)
 
Captain Adverse said:
Why I still respond to you surprises me. In the first place, I don't agree with your assertion that Trump supporters are "cultists," while those who oppose his Administration with equal "fervor" cannot fall under your same label.

On the one hand you claim an absolute opinion in favor of something is "cultist." Meanwhile you counterclaim that an absolute opinion in opposition to something cannot be "cultist."

Let prove you wrong. There is a nasty little "church" in Westboro Kansas who hate Gays so much they are willing to protest military funerals based on their hatred. Would you not consider them a "cult?"

Love and hate are opposite emotional poles, and "cultists" typically have no problem loving and hating with equal fervor.

I disagree with your demonizing of those who don't agree with your views, it's just typical moral panic tactics. Just know that other's could use you own knife to cut both ways. :coffeepap:
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Westboro would become a cult if the head came out as gay and they kept following him to soldiers' funerals.
 
Why it's so hard to take things as they are? It's really odd to me that what's disgusting is something to be proud of for Tumpsters. Seriously if you can't even see how Trump is lying all the time, how it's possible? Maybe Trump told that he's not lying? Like he told how smart he is. Do Trump's base think that Trump is very stable genius with unmatched wisdom? In my way of thinking anyone who say something like that about himself is a nut job. There's lot of proof about Trump's stupidity and base can't see it - well, that's interesting.

Let's think something truly horrible (that's for you Trump supporters): if you see Trump raping 5 year old in live TV, do you still support Trump? If that's not bad enough, how about dropping nukes within US borders, is that bad enough? If Trump can do absolutely anything and it's always - and forever - right, you're just evil moron and nothing more.
 
rickc said:
The really bad part about the die hard trumpsters is they will still be out there after trump is gone.

We know their true feelings now and it is not a pretty sight.

Right wing media created.them. now they are destroying the party of the right.
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That was always the danger of deciding to play on emotional.manipulation as opposed to rational dialog.

The former requires a never ending ramping up of the messaging as their target audience develops a tolerance to accompany their addiction to the neurochemicals involved

More red meat, more often.

Which is why they are also dangerous.

They will turn on those who cut off their supply, not those who addicted them in the first place.
 
HenryChinaski said:
For your sake, I hope that Trump never goes Jim Jones and calls on you to drink that kool-aid.:shock:
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I have a pitcher of anti-freeze handy just in case!

:usflag2:
 
Captain Adverse said:
Hmmm... also from that same poll citation:

Poll: 62% of Trump supporters say nothing he could do would change opinion - Axios

Does this also make THOSE citizens a "cult?" :coffeepap:
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CA, this only proves you're smart. Sadly it means you're dishonest. You know there is a difference between holding someone accountable for their words and actions and someone saying they will never hold them accountable. Your conservative masters appreciate your obedience. don't reply to me if you agree I'm right.
 
Sabre said:
As I said, if that is true then so is the cult of Obama, many who still follow him to this day. If you are willing to accept that Obamaites are cultist I will accept your labeling of those who support the President.
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Only the OTHER cult is a cult!!!!

:2mad:

:thumbs:

:donkeyfla
 
PirateMk1 said:
He didn't even get 19 minutes to settle into the office before your side started calling for his head. Technically he didn't even get the day after the election. So why would his supporters not defend him no matter what considering those circumstance? Why should they believe your side? Your side made it very clear you hate his guts and will do whatever it takes to remove him, and this was right from the get go, no chance to prove himself, no quarter no nothing. Obama got time, nobody called for his head after he was elected. For what its worth I am glad your side decided to go to war straight from the start. It kept Trump from making deals with you. He would have made deals with you. Lots of deals. Many would have been to my detriment. So I really appreciate you hate his guts as it kept Trump on my side and that you keep trying to throw him in jail you have made and enemy of him. He don't like you at all. Which is good for me as deals with the Dems will be far and few between and as one sided as he can make them to my favor.
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wah wah wah. And besides being incredibly whiny, you're also a hypocrite. We don't have to lie to criticize poor widdle twump. You and yours lied non stop about President Obama. and your conservative masters used your ignorance to sabotage the recovery. Democrats wont undermine America for their political agenda. republicans have repeatedly.
 
Democrats have some bizarre view that if a person has any difference of opinion from President Trump, then that person must vote for the corporate fascism, racism, bigotries, hate mongering, USA-hating socialist Democratic Party.

I'm not pro-Republican. I am intensely anti-Democrat.
 
Higgins86 said:
I believe it! I never thought I would see Americans turn on John McCain and attack his war record all because he spoke out vs Trump.
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But you sat quietly when republicans attacked Kerry. they can only do that when you don't hold them accountable.
 
3leftsdoo said:
I have a pitcher of anti-freeze handy just in case!

:usflag2:
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If Trump called you personally and asked you to kick your dog while you're dressed in tutu, I'd wager that you would without question.
 
apdst said:
You didn't notice Liberals attacking McCain's war record in 2008?

Some on left target McCain's war record - POLITICO
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poor ap, you should learn to read

"after retired general and Barack Obama supporter Wesley Clark said he didn't think that McCain’s service as a fighter pilot and prisoner of war was relevant to running the country. Obama has consistently praised McCain's service, and called him "a genuine American hero." "
 
Sabre said:
You are quite loose with labeling people cultists. If committing yourself to a President makes you a member of a cult then you will have to admit that all those who idolized Obama, no matter what, were and are cultists.
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Sab, you're simply ignoring the facts. Your cult literally foamed at the mouth about deficits for 8 years and now you obediently sit quietly concerning deficits as your cult leaders balloon the deficit. That's literally a textbook example of a cult.
 
Vern said:
poor ap, you should learn to read

"after retired general and Barack Obama supporter Wesley Clark said he didn't think that McCain’s service as a fighter pilot and prisoner of war was relevant to running the country. Obama has consistently praised McCain's service, and called him "a genuine American hero." "
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He was just crawfishin. Know whatta mean, Vern?
 
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