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Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Against

If that statement wasn't coerced or the result of editing then the doctors and psychologists will quickly come to the conclusion that the child isn't transgendered.
Yep you're wonderful doctors and psychologists can't possibly do anything wrong it's not like they're human or anything.
 
Yep you're wonderful doctors and psychologists can't possibly do anything wrong it's not like they're human or anything.

Why would they seek to treat a child for being transgendered when there is no diagnosis supporting her/him being transgendered? Is this also the work of the nefarious Deep State?

If you are so informed on the treatment, please explain to me in detail to me what treatment will happen for an 8-year-old child if Luna is actually diagnosed transgendered. Do you really believe that her insurance won't question any care or demand a second opinion by a qualified provider?
 
It is established that the biological sex of the child is male. The child is also asserting that her gender is female.
because the mom told him he was female.



...yes, that's mostly due to the stigma, discrimination and abuse experienced by transgender individuals.
So pushing a child into that is wrong. Why would anyone do that unless they are abusive assholes?
In addition, many find their condition distressing, and when society tries to deny their condition or force them to adhere to gender norms, life becomes incredibly difficult.
So because of that it would probably be something you should try and avoid.


Cool story, bro. That's not what is happening here.
mostly because her mom and dad both told her no sweetie you're a girl you just have short hair.
A lot of details were presented to the court, including by Family Child Services and a court-appointed psychologist. The child has been saying for years that she's a girl. The child never told any of her therapists or other interviewers that "Mommy forces me to dress like a girl, and I don't like it, and I don't want to be called Luna." No one, not even a doctor hired by the father, proved that the mother is forcing the child to become transgender.
the boy has said that mom tells him that he's a girl. It's on video.


:roll:

I'm curious, if your doctor tells you that your symptoms are caused by cancer, do you berate your doctor for claiming that her lab coat magically turns her opinions into fact? Or do you only reserve it for situations where what is happening clashes with your preferred political views of the world?
Behavior in biology are two very different things.
 
Why would they seek to treat a child for being transgendered when there is no diagnosis supporting her/him being transgendered?
same reason you're defending it. I think it's the show that this is somehow legit and that anybody who thinks otherwise is some unsophisticated wackadoodle mouth breather.

You don't realize that psychologists disagree on this sort of thing.
If you are so informed on the treatment, please explain to me in detail to me what treatment will happen for an 8-year-old child if Luna is actually diagnosed transgendered.
treatment? Is transgenderism a disease?

The idea is the child is a boy don't call him Luna don't let him wear dresses. Don't brainwash him into believing he's a girl.

First Do no harm.

Do you really believe that her insurance won't question any care or demand a second opinion by a qualified provider?
Insurance doesn't pay for good parenting.
 
It is established that the biological sex of the child is male. The child is also asserting that her gender is female

No. HIS mother is doing that.
 
Doctors who push pseudoscientific conspiracy theories to promote their anti-LGBT agenda cannot be trusted.

So some doctors can't be trusted.

And - coincidence no doubt! - you trust the doctor$ facilitating this madness.

And you do not trust the docTors who oppose it.
 
Your "possibilities" are nonsense with no basis in the actual facts of the case, and most of them are downright insulting.

There is no scientific evidence whatsoever that parents who recognize gender dysphoria are "secretly" suffering from MBP and fooling everyone around them -- in this case, that includes multiple specialists in the field, Family Child Services, a court-appointed psychologist, a doctor hired by the defense, a jury and a judge.

There is also no indication from the case that the woman is being vindictive and taking it out on the child. Again, the court found that there was no abuse on either parent's part.

And no, gender dysphoria in children is not a "fad."

Thanks, but no thanks, for your biased "analysis" that has no basis whatsoever in any facts.

Reality DOES have a strong bias.

Unfortunate that this troubles you.
 
Multiple therapists, Family Child Services, a court-appointed psychologist, a doctor hired by the father, a Dallas jury and a judge all disagree with you on that one.

Gender dysphoria (which is not the cause of all instances of transgenderism) is real. It can manifest in very young children. The mother is, as already noted, NOT asking for medical or surgical intervention, what she wants is to adopt an "affirmation" approach that follows the child's lead about their gender identity.

:roll:

Again: No one is talking about surgery on a minor. That is extremely rare, and few doctors will even consider it. They aren't even talking about any medications until the child is much older.

Enabling of this fad is a troubling trend.
 
Nota' has not reduced anything of mine to rubble because she is still convinced that the mother makes treatment decisions. We have tried to explain to her about the details of the process but she still believes the insane conspitarial rantings of LifeSiteNews andother extremists website aboiut the process. I am tired of trying to have a rational conversation with either her or Dixon because they are so deep in the hole that they cannot be reached with logic or facts.

I don't think any of these characterizations are warranted.

But I continue to believe you to be well-meaning if repetitive and inflexible.

If we were to bend this conversation toward discussing a more gender-neutral option for kids, in which girls who are distinctly un-girly (whatever that ultimately means) and boys who are not so boyish (whatever that means) are offered alternatives rather than make-up princess vs first person shooter, I'm all for it.

Girls playing football and boys wearing dresses?

No problem for me.

But except in VERY rare cases, they're going to remain biologically male and female.

That the social options for children of BOTH genders can be expanded and intermingled is a winning argument as far as I'm concerned.

But not this business with a 7 year old played out against a backdrop of a bitter divorce/custody battle.
 
Where do you get this nonsense from?

Nobody is telling a boy that he is a girl. The situation is 180° different. It is the little girl telling the Dr that she has felt like a girl and letting her dress and groom herself how she is comfortable as well as having others use the proper gendered pronouns.

Boys with long hair wearing dresses = No problem

It was a thing for a long time; the norm in some strata.

Girls with short hair in pants = No problem

Expand those gender norm options!

But boys will still be boys, and girls still girls.

Literally.
 
why? What I'm saying makes perfect sense to everyone except for those trying to earn woke points.

Brainwashing a little boy into believing he's a little girl is abusive on face value.

It's madness to suggest it isn't.

so he's in the custody of the state?
This is the stupidest part of it. What if the kid says he's a cat?

Why in the hell would I abusive doctors take a kids game of pretend and **** him over like this.

Playing dress-up is perfectly acceptable. Lots of kids do it. Are those kids all trans now?

Some good points. :thumbs:
 
You believe that it is true but belief without facts is only an opinion. The fact that you claim to know all only proves that you are an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. I am wasting my time tellling you this because you won't change because you are convinced that you are far more intelligent than you actually are and you cannot change. If you were even half as informed as to your claim that you are you would keep your mouth closed and learn instead you mouth off about what you don't know about but you can't because you lack the ability for introspection.

The child doesn't need to know what being transgendered is. The child knows enough that their psychological gender identity is incongruent with the biological gender because she has said that she feels like a girl, despite her biology. The medical transition treatment doesn't begin for 5+ years and things may or not may not change in the interim, so the child will be allowed to live in the gender identity they choose while they are being closely monitored by teams of Drs and psychologists. That is all that is necessary at this point. I don't need to know about the genetics of cancer and chemical oncology to have had multiple needle biopies for breast cancer.

Expanding/blending gender concepts = Awesome

Pretending a boy isn't a boy = Awful
 
Boys with long hair wearing dresses = No problem

It was a thing for a long time; the norm in some strata.

Girls with short hair in pants = No problem

Expand those gender norm options!

But boys will still be boys, and girls still girls.

Literally.
Pople used to say that women who wore pants would be lesbians. Women who wear short skirts are accused of being sluts. I'm wearing fake leather leggings and a tunic sweater as I type this to you, so am I a lesbian or am I a slut?

Transgdered people have always existed and the numbers are stable as a few in every thousand. The numbers aren't increasing and there will be no new fad of being transgendered, despite your fears. Why does it bother you that transgendered people exist and this child is getting the care that is medically necessary while she is still young enough before her body physically matures in the wrong gender? The child is only 8 years old so there will be no medical treatment beginning for another 4-5 years. At this point is to just watch and wait with psychological counseling and testing.
 
I never said that gender dysphoria is the default, so don't put words into my mouth. I have told you before but you still won't change because you would have to reconsider your opinion if you did. I have read the PDF multiple times but it doesn't say what you are convinced that it does. You are constantly jumping to unsupported conclusions because it suits your viewpoint. Visbeck has also tried to educate you but you are resistant to facts because your mind is made up. You are somehow convinced that something nefarious is happening in this child's care because of your ignorance and the lies that you have been fed, but obviously there are no facts to support what you believe.

My viewpoint is suported by medical facts and stanrads of care that I have posted on multiple occasions.

Relevant medical facts = Demonstrable irregularities in the child's XY makeup

Standards of care = A shifting social construct, like gender
 
Expanding/blending gender concepts = Awesome

Pretending a boy isn't a boy = Awful

A transgendered girl was never a boy, despite the biology, so they aren't pretending. The same goes for a transgendered boy not being a girl.
 
Relevant medical facts = Demonstrable irregularities in the child's XY makeup
You don't seem to understand the difference between intersex and transgendered. Intersexxed people have ambiguous physical gender. Transgendered people do not have ambiguous biological gender. Being transgendered has to do with their psychological gender identity (the male or femaleness of who they feel that they are) that is incongruent with their biological gender.

Standards of care = A shifting social construct, like gender

Gender roles always shift as society evolves. Gender does not and has nothing to do with the medical standards of care which lay out the diagnosis and treatment process.
 
If that statement wasn't coerced or the result of editing then the doctors and psychologists will quickly come to the conclusion that the child isn't transgendered.

The child = A child

The boy = A boy
 
It is established that the biological sex of the child is male. The child is also asserting that her gender is female.

...yes, that's mostly due to the stigma, discrimination and abuse experienced by transgender individuals. In addition, many find their condition distressing, and when society tries to deny their condition or force them to adhere to gender norms, life becomes incredibly difficult.

Cool story, bro. That's not what is happening here.

A lot of details were presented to the court, including by Family Child Services and a court-appointed psychologist. The child has been saying for years that she's a girl. The child never told any of her therapists or other interviewers that "Mommy forces me to dress like a girl, and I don't like it, and I don't want to be called Luna." No one, not even a doctor hired by the father, proved that the mother is forcing the child to become transgender.

:roll:

I'm curious, if your doctor tells you that your symptoms are caused by cancer, do you berate your doctor for claiming that her lab coat magically turns her opinions into fact? Or do you only reserve it for situations where what is happening clashes with your preferred political views of the world?

Expanding/redefining gender = Awesome

Saying boys aren't boys = Awful
 
Yep you're wonderful doctors and psychologists can't possibly do anything wrong it's not like they're human or anything.

Well, doctors who disagree are quacks.

Doctors on the *woke* side = Trustworthy

Doctors on the *unwoke* side = Untrustworthy
 
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Why would they seek to treat a child for being transgendered when there is no diagnosis supporting her/him being transgendered? Is this also the work of the nefarious Deep State?

If you are so informed on the treatment, please explain to me in detail to me what treatment will happen for an 8-year-old child if Luna is actually diagnosed transgendered. Do you really believe that her insurance won't question any care or demand a second opinion by a qualified provider?

It'$ a my$tery to be $ure...
 
Pople used to say that women who wore pants would be lesbians. Women who wear short skirts are accused of being sluts. I'm wearing fake leather leggings and a tunic sweater as I type this to you, so am I a lesbian or am I a slut?

Transgdered people have always existed and the numbers are stable as a few in every thousand. The numbers aren't increasing and there will be no new fad of being transgendered, despite your fears. Why does it bother you that transgendered people exist and this child is getting the care that is medically necessary while she is still young enough before her body physically matures in the wrong gender? The child is only 8 years old so there will be no medical treatment beginning for another 4-5 years. At this point is to just watch and wait with psychological counseling and testing.

If there's medical evidence which demonstrates the boy is XY irregular, it's a medical issue.

Otherwise, change those gender norms, but don't claim a boy is a girl.
 
A transgendered girl was never a boy, despite the biology, so they aren't pretending. The same goes for a transgendered boy not being a girl.

Let's support change for gender norms.

In the meantime...

James = Boy

If he wants to go by J (gender neutral), bless his little heart.

:)
 
You don't seem to understand the difference between intersex and transgendered. Intersexxed people have ambiguous physical gender. Transgendered people do not have ambiguous biological gender. Being transgendered has to do with their psychological gender identity (the male or femaleness of who they feel that they are) that is incongruent with their biological gender.

Gender roles always shift as society evolves. Gender does not and has nothing to do with the medical standards of care which lay out the diagnosis and treatment process.

You don't seem to understand what I understand.

Change gender norms.

Boys = Boys
 
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