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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    She, for whatever reason, has been brainwashing this child for years.


    I find it highly unlikely that you know better about the situation than multiple therapists who have worked with the family for months on this issue.
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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
    Actually mom wants to put him on Puberty blockers beginning at age 8 or 9 yrs old
    No, she doesn't. That was made very clear in court.

    Janicek and Hayes have also made a point to emphasize that the mother is not seeking a medical transition, including puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones — a treatment that Younger is concerned will be given in the near future.

    Puberty blockers are used to block the production of testosterone or estrogen to delay or prevent the development of secondary sex characteristics (e.g. facial hair, voice, breasts, etc.).

    Cross-sex hormone therapy is used next to administer testosterone to females or estrogen to males in an attempt to induce the development of secondary sex characteristics of their opposite biological sex. Transgender individuals must continue this treatment for life.

    Dr. Daniel Shumer, an endocrinologist (a doctor specializing in hormones) called by the mother’s lawyers to testify, said that puberty blockers are used “to buy some time” for those at the start of puberty so that they and their parents can decide if a full medical transition should be made.

    Shumer said that puberty blockers are only ever first used at the beginning of puberty, which for boys is marked by the “Tanner stages of sexual development” and not age. He said that on average, this occurs around age 11 ½ for boys.

    Although Janicek and Hayes argued that the mother did not intend to use puberty blockers prior to puberty, no one has stated that she would not be open to using them when James begins puberty.

    Hearing in Custody Battle Over Alleged Transgender Seven-Year-Old Will Resume Next Week | The Texan


    "She began telling him he’s a girl when he was just three...
    Or, not. That's a claim by the father that apparently didn't hold up in court.
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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

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    I find it highly unlikely that you know better about the situation than multiple therapists who have worked with the family for months on this issue.
    If you think this is good for this boy, you have a variety of screws loose.
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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    No, she doesn't. That was made very clear in court.

    [color=blue]Janicek and Hayes have also made a point to emphasize that the mother is not seeking a medical transition, including puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones — .
    The medical records say otherwise.


    "Odeneal has also repeatedly contended that Georgulas does intend to pursue a medical gender transition for James, citing medical records that note James would be referred to doctors at the GENecis clinic for puberty suppression once he reached eight or nine years old."

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    Dr. Daniel Shumer, an endocrinologist (a doctor specializing in hormones) called by the mother’s lawyers to testify, said that puberty blockers are used “to buy some time” for those at the start of puberty so that they and their parents can decide if a full medical transition should be made.

    Shumer said that puberty blockers are only ever first used at the beginning of puberty, which for boys is marked by the “Tanner stages of sexual development” and not age. He said that on average, this occurs around age 11 ½ for boys.


    Hearing in Custody Battle Over Alleged Transgender Seven-Year-Old Will Resume Next Week | The Texan

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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

    No one ever said the government has no role; and it certainly has a role in protecting the rights of citizens. You know Mengele would be proud of you and your cohorts' support for experimenting with the sex of that boy.
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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    ^ Notice how he doesn't refute the claim that Republican politicians don't care about consent, child abuse, and bodily autonomy. Because he can't.
    A mother trying to mutilate the body of an 8 year old boy, ought to be imprisoned immediately. It's called child abuse. That boys rights trump his mother's sick leftwing desires.
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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    A mother trying to mutilate the body of an 8 year old boy, ought to be imprisoned immediately. It's called child abuse. That boys rights trump his mother's sick leftwing desires.
    And I wouldn't limit the criticism to the bodily mutilation and would extend it to the hormone treatments as well. 80-90 % of these kids expressing feelings of being transgendered, simply lose those feelings over time. I suspect hormone blockers at age 11 brings that down to near 0%.

    Dr. Stephen Levine, a psychiatrist who specializes in human sexuality and has been working in the field for several decades, was called to the stand by Odeneal.

    He testified that eleven studies had been completed showing that when an approach of “watchful waiting” is taken without any affirmation or social transition, “desistance” (identifying with the gender of one’s biological sex) occurred in around 80 to 90 percent of cases after children thought to be transgender continue developing throughout adolescence.
    Hearing in Custody Battle Over Alleged Transgender Seven-Year-Old Will Resume Next Week | The Texan

    Reading the article

    Both witnesses — as well as all of the mother’s witnesses who know James — testified that James has not displayed any signs of distress. Everyone described him as a bright, happy, outgoing child.....
    Those who testified — and even those who diagnosed James with gender dysphoria — said that he has not displayed any such distress.

    Seems the psyche profession is operating under the old view of the DSM where being transgendered is the mental disorder, and not the current DSM view that it is only the transgendered who experience significant distress that have the mental disorder Gender Dysphoria and the other transgenders who do not are perfectly normal from a psychiatric point of view. This kid isn't suffering from any distress but the medical profession is advising radical treatment anyway.

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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
    The medical records say otherwise.
    Dude? I quoted the exact same article. None of the therapists working with the child indicated that was an imminent plan. The endocrinologist you quoted was testifying for the mother, not the father.
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    Re: Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Aga

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Absolutely justified. 7 years old is far too young for a decision like that. I totally, 100% support this kid acting like any gender that makes him happy, but transitioning is a serious decision that only a legal adult can make for her or himself.
    Well it's unfortunate that everything this idiotic thread is based upon is actually a flat lie. The child is the one who wants to act like a girl, and the mother is not in fact forcing any type of transition on him whatsoever. What she has said is that maybe when he's a teenager if he still wants to be a girl she might consider hormone therapy, but that is not at all what is happening right now.

    A jury of 12 Texas decided that not only should the father not get full custody, but 11 out of the 12 jurors actually ruled that the mother should get full custody.

    Just another example of right wing morons grandstanding for a problem that doesn't exist.
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