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    'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    It seems like Trump's immigration policy is taking its toll on its economy. As told in one story, Vega, the owner of many oil rigs in New Mexico, cannot find eonugh legal immigrants to operate them. He has decided to do things the legal way by not hiring illegals, partly because of Trump's hardline stance on illegal immigration
    'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers - Reuters

    About two years ago, ICE stepped up operations in the Permian area, according to Lea County employers.

    I know people, my peers, that have been hit by immigration audits, and they were told, specifically, that the Permian Basin was targeted because of the vast amount of workers that were coming here, said Finn Smith, president of Hobbs-based Watson Hopper Inc.
    Conservatives often complain about illegal immigrants taking their jobs but the fact of the matter is that they take the jobs that US citizens don't want to do. These typically involve lots of physical labor.

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    Re: 'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    Trump doesn't want the kind of immigrant who would be willing to take those dangerous jobs. And he especially doesn't want their families.
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    Re: 'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    It seems like Trump's immigration policy is taking its toll on its economy. As told in one story, Vega, the owner of many oil rigs in New Mexico, cannot find eonugh legal immigrants to operate them. He has decided to do things the legal way by not hiring illegals, partly because of Trump's hardline stance on illegal immigration
    'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers - Reuters



    Conservatives often complain about illegal immigrants taking their jobs but the fact of the matter is that they take the jobs that US citizens don't want to do. These typically involve lots of physical labor.
    There was nothing in that article that says that US citizens don't want to take those oil related jobs. In fact, everyone who was quoted appeared to prefer to hire non-US citizens.

    This article is nothing more than those employers whining because ICE is finally doing their jobs and enforcing the law. I have no sympathy for them.

    They have two solutions:

    1. If they insist on hiring non-US citizens, then they need to lobby Congress to reform the laws to make it more efficient for them to get work permits for non-US citizens.

    2. Hire US citizens.
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    Re: 'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    It seems like Trump's immigration policy is taking its toll on its economy. As told in one story, Vega, the owner of many oil rigs in New Mexico, cannot find eonugh legal immigrants to operate them. He has decided to do things the legal way by not hiring illegals, partly because of Trump's hardline stance on illegal immigration
    'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers - Reuters



    Conservatives often complain about illegal immigrants taking their jobs but the fact of the matter is that they take the jobs that US citizens don't want to do. These typically involve lots of physical labor.
    If you pay enough, you'll find US citizens willing to do the work. Basic economics.

    But God forbid that big business have to actually pay their workers a decent amount! Liberals would never stand for that.
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    Re: 'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    It seems like Trump's immigration policy is taking its toll on its economy. As told in one story, Vega, the owner of many oil rigs in New Mexico, cannot find eonugh legal immigrants to operate them. He has decided to do things the legal way by not hiring illegals, partly because of Trump's hardline stance on illegal immigration
    'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers - Reuters



    Conservatives often complain about illegal immigrants taking their jobs but the fact of the matter is that they take the jobs that US citizens don't want to do.
    These typically involve lots of physical labor.
    Absolute horse ****. If companies are whining about not being able to employ immigrants its because they do not want to pay Americans enough money to do those jobs in the first place. Assuming you are actually employed and American you wouldn't work at work at your job if it offered significantly less money.So why would you expect other Americans as well?
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    Re: 'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Absolute horse ****. If companies are whining about not being able to employ immigrants its because they do not want to pay Americans enough money to do those jobs in the first place. Assuming you are actually employed and American you wouldn't work at work at your job if it offered significantly less money.So why would you expect other Americans as well?
    And it has nothing to do with poor working attitudes of Americans and lack of education/training? It is amazing how the "pay excuse" is used in all of these discussions and yet nothing about work attitudes... it is especially funny when the complaints come about jobs in one of the best paid industries in the US, where the average wage is 200k a year. Are you telling me that no American is willing to work for 200k a year?



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    Re: 'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    It seems like Trump's immigration policy is taking its toll on its economy. As told in one story, Vega, the owner of many oil rigs in New Mexico, cannot find eonugh legal immigrants to operate them. He has decided to do things the legal way by not hiring illegals, partly because of Trump's hardline stance on illegal immigration
    'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers - Reuters



    Conservatives often complain about illegal immigrants taking their jobs but the fact of the matter is that they take the jobs that US citizens don't want to do. These typically involve lots of physical labor...
    ...for 10 or 12 hours a day at wages below the minimum with few or no benefits.

    Of course nobody wants those jobs. Why do you support the exploitation of minority immigrants?

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    Re: 'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    It seems like Trump's immigration policy is taking its toll on its economy. As told in one story, Vega, the owner of many oil rigs in New Mexico, cannot find eonugh legal immigrants to operate them. He has decided to do things the legal way by not hiring illegals, partly because of Trump's hardline stance on illegal immigration
    'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers - Reuters



    Conservatives often complain about illegal immigrants taking their jobs but the fact of the matter is that they take the jobs that US citizens don't want to do. These typically involve lots of physical labor.
    Trump doesnt make the laws. Hes just enforcing then. Whats congress doing to change the laws to allow more legal immigrants in who have job offers?

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    Re: 'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    If you pay enough, you'll find US citizens willing to do the work. Basic economics.

    But God forbid that big business have to actually pay their workers a decent amount! Liberals would never stand for that.
    And here I thought it was the liberals who were in favor of a living wage.

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    Re: 'Broken system' starves U.S. oil boom of immigrant workers

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    If you pay enough, you'll find US citizens willing to do the work. Basic economics.

    But God forbid that big business have to actually pay their workers a decent amount! Liberals would never stand for that.
    Ohfer****sakes.
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