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GOP Group to air ads on Fox News calling for Republicans to condemn Trump over Ukraine Scandle

Pound4abrown said:
Total frame job.
It was Rick Perry.
It was, well it was, um, what was the question again?
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Nothing is more sickening than a man that throws others under the bus to avoid accountability.

That's no tough guy, that's a *****boy.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
The abuse of power has already been addmitted to. By Donnie Mosow. On the air.
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You mind citing it, or is this another case where I can make one of you run with a simple question?
 
Obscurity said:
Abused his power by using the office of the presidency to attempt to have a foreign power investigate a dead scandal so Trump could run ads accusing Biden of corruption.

YOU KNOW he would use the info he obtained in ads - true or false - there is no denying it.
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That's an interesting allegation you have there. Would you happen to be able to prove it?

Because it's already apparent that Biden was just mentioned in passing, even with the Ukrainian president and that Cloud strike was the topic.
 
iguanaman said:
How did you come to that conclusion? There are limits to "benefit of the doubt" aren't there? If a mugger points a gun at you and takes your money is it still a robbery if the mugger does not say "give me your money"? :lol:
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Seeing as that wasn't done here. Your assumption is pretty far from proof of any crime, or wrong doing.
 
digitusmedius said:
You're the last person we'd look to as a source for where that "boarder" is. As a thinly disguised trumphumper we know that boarder is non-existent for you.
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Still more personal attacks...

Really enjoying you dismissing yourself at this point.
 
Oborosen said:
Seeing as that wasn't done here. Your assumption is pretty far from proof of any crime, or wrong doing.
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Answer my question. Does mugger have to say "Give me your money" for it to be a crime our not?
 
iguanaman said:
Answer my question. Does mugger have to say "Give me your money" for it to be a crime our not?
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If he takes your money, then it's a crime. It doesn't matter what he said.
That still doesn't change the fact that assumption is all that anyone really has right here.
 
nitroexpress said:
Admissions of what? Kerry bragged of his foreign "friends" helping him against Bush. When interviewed, Kerry said he couldn't release his transcripts as it would be harmful to foreign relations. Sound familiar?

CNN.com - Bush challenges Kerry comments - Mar 16, 2004
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LOL Saying that foreign leaders want you elected instead of your opponent is not help from foreign leaders. They have to do something to help you. You know a "favor".
 
Oborosen said:
That's an interesting allegation you have there. Would you happen to be able to prove it?

Because it's already apparent that Biden was just mentioned in passing, even with the Ukrainian president and that Cloud strike was the topic.
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LOL "Crowdstrike" Do you know that the bipartisan Senate released their report on Russian meddling today. Guess what? Russia did it all. And the crippling sanctions on Putin will remain indefinitely. No chance of them getting removed for any reason.Boy is Putin going to be pissed at Trump...:lol:

Washington — A report released Tuesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee warns that the Kremlin-backed information warfare efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election could evolve, intensify and inspire other actors to make similar attempts in 2020.


The partially redacted, 85-page report is the product of two years of bipartisan, staff-led efforts, and offers a comprehensive look at Russian operatives' activity surrounding the 2016 elections.

Though President Trump continues to dismiss the idea that Russia tried to help his candidacy with its meddling, the panel's report reinforces previous conclusions by the intelligence community about Russian operations in 2016 — including that they were designed to harm Hillary Clinton's chances of success while boosting Mr. Trump's.
The Kremlin-linked Internet Research Agency's (IRA) social media activity "was overtly and almost invariably supportive of then-candidate Trump, and to the detriment of Secretary Clinton's campaign," the committee found.

It also confirmed that the highest echelons of the Russian government directed the IRA's efforts.

"Despite Moscow's denials, the direction and financial involvement of Russian oligarch Yevgeniy Prigozhin, as well as his close ties to high-level Russian government officials including President Vladimir Putin, point to significant Kremlin support, authorization, and direction of the IRA' s operations and goals," the report said.

"President Putin denies any knowledge of Prigozhin's trolling operation. The committee finds this denial to be false," it said. The section that follows is redacted.

Progozhin was among the 13 Russian nationals indicted by the U.S. government in July 2018.
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Senate Intelligence Committee report on 2016 Russian election interference offers roadmap for 2020 meddling - CBS News
 
iguanaman said:
LOL "Crowdstrike" Do you know that the bipartisan Senate released their report on Russian meddling today. Guess what? Russia did it all.



Senate Intelligence Committee report on 2016 Russian election interference offers roadmap for 2020 meddling - CBS News
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So you have nothing else to add to your allegation aside from stuff that's been old news for how long now?

We already know what was done in the 2016 election, that's in past now.

None of this has anything to do with proving Trump did what is being claimed.
 
Oborosen said:
So you have nothing else to add to your allegation aside from stuff that's been old news for how long now?

We already know what was done in the 2016 election, that's in past now.

None of this has anything to do with proving Trump did what is being claimed.
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You deny that the "Crowdstrike" discussion Trump had was about trying to pin the DNC hacking on Ukraine so that Trump can have an excuse to remove Russian sanctions? Barr is running around the world right now doing essentially the same thing. It's pathetic and a supreme waste of money and time. Or AG job is to try and get our allies to help him prove conspiracy theories to help Russia? That does not seem corrupt to you?
 
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iguanaman said:
You deny that the "Crowdstrike" discussion Trump had was about trying to pin the DNC hacking on Ukraine so that Trump can have an excuse to remove Russian sanctions? Barr is running around the world right now doing essentially the same thing. It's pathetic and a supreme waste of money and time. Or AG job is to try and get our allies to help him prove conspiracy theories to help Russia? That does not seem corrupt to you?
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That is a strange assumption to jump too at this point.
 
As you scroll down what you find are the pre-Trump GOP who worked for Reagan and the Bushes. You don't like them because they don't support Trump...but you cannot deny that they support traditional platform planks of the GOP.

Now, I grant you that Kristol is an odious turd and he is not that smart. I won't disagree with you there.
 
American said:
So McCabe confessed, he should be arrested.
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Then why hasn't he been? This was a couple of years ago.

Maybe Trump is stretching the truth? He probably "confessed" to mot being a Trumpian. Trump thinks that's a crime. Do you?
 
You guys remember when some Republicans were worried about Trump and potential international events? Well, the few who are intelligent AND realized that Trump was an idiot from the beginning.

Well here we go...
 
Its so sad that some members of the GOP have to spend hard earned money buying time and space, to remind other members of the GOP that they have to stand up for decency and moral authority, and they have to be patriotic enough to put country over politics.

Sadder still, it won't do any good.
 
Moot said:
"Republicans for the Rule of Law (RRL), a conservative group whose stated purpose is "defending the institutions of our republic," will run a series of advertisements on Fox News this week to encourage Republicans in Congress to speak out against President Donald Trump's alleged abuses of power in the Ukraine scandal.

The videos will run every day this week on Fox & Friends and Special Report with Bret Baier starting Tuesday in the congressional districts of 15 House Republicans and the home states of 12 Senate Republicans, including Reps. Adam Kinzinger, Rob Woodall, Susan Brooks, Will Hurd and Fred Upton.

The advertisements are part of an ongoing $1 million campaign recently launched by the group that aims to persuade GOP members to hold Trump accountable. The group has chosen these specific congressional Republicans because "they seemed like some of the most likely to do the right thing," Carson Putnam, RRL's chief of communications told Newsweek...."

GOP Group to Air Advertisements on Fox News Calling for Republicans to Condemn Trump Over Ukraine Scandal​


Finally. Finally, the GOP are showing signs of doing the right thing. They still have a ways to go but this is a good start.

The senate needs 20 GOP senators to help convict Trump on one article of impeachment to remove him from office. A few more pressure groups like this on the right and it could happen.
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Nope. This is a side group to Defending Democracy Together, a 501c4 created by Bill Kristol and others.

They are the old school conservatives who the left hates.

So, is this a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
 
Oborosen said:
That's an interesting allegation you have there. Would you happen to be able to prove it?

Because it's already apparent that Biden was just mentioned in passing, even with the Ukrainian president and that Cloud strike was the topic.
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It's not an allegation. Trump is already running ads about it.
 
Oborosen said:
At least the OP says alleged abuse of power, even though I don't doubt these people would be just as hard pressed to prove as such as the democrats are right now.
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All they have to do is turn on the television. They’re not “hard pressed” at all.

Indeed, the White House is hard pressed to keep their behavior off the tv. That’s why we’re up to eight officials and cabinet secretaries and formers that Trump has instructed (unlawfully) to ignore Congressional subpoenas.
 
Oborosen said:
So you have nothing else to add to your allegation aside from stuff that's been old news for how long now?

We already know what was done in the 2016 election, that's in past now.

None of this has anything to do with proving Trump did what is being claimed.
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The report was released yesterday.

That’s how fast something becomes “old news” to right wingers who denied it right up to the day they wrote it off as “old news”.

And the facts haven’t changed/

But you did try and dance past the Trump campaign’s disloyalty and open eagerness to collude.

And you’re doing your level best to ignore the open attempts to peddle aid for dirt now.
 
TomFitz said:
All they have to do is turn on the television. They’re not “hard pressed” at all.

Indeed, the White House is hard pressed to keep their behavior off the tv. That’s why we’re up to eight officials and cabinet secretaries and formers that Trump has instructed (unlawfully) to ignore Congressional subpoenas.
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Something tells me that you might need to know the extent, of what is lawful and unlawful in this instance.
 
TomFitz said:
The report was released yesterday.

That’s how fast something becomes “old news” to right wingers who denied it right up to the day they wrote it off as “old news”.

And the facts haven’t changed/

But you did try and dance past the Trump campaign’s disloyalty and open eagerness to collude.

And you’re doing your level best to ignore the open attempts to peddle aid for dirt now.
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Actually, I'm asking for proof and have yet to actually get it from anyone that I've currently requested it from.

So I'm just waiting to see which one will actually grow a damn spine at this point.
 
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