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The Whisteblower: Trump is a national security threat

Dans La Lune said:
The Whistleblower suggests that Trump is a threat to national security because he made a promise to a foreign leader about a matter of 'urgent concern'. We will learn about this, and I don't expect the nature of the promise, and who the promise was made to, will benefit Trump.

Here's is Cenk's TYT commentary:


And from Talking Points Memo:

The Whistleblower Complaint Is About Trump | Talking Points Memo
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Lookit! Another democrat sourceless slander of President Trump by the lying left in their zeal to bring Trump down with lies heaped on top of lies. Shame on them. They make themselves enemies of America by rejecting the elected government and laws of America.
 
marke said:
Lookit! Another democrat sourceless slander of President Trump by the lying left in their zeal to bring Trump down with lies heaped on top of lies. Shame on them. They make themselves enemies of America by rejecting the elected government and laws of America.
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Simple question: If it is determined that Trump has engaged in criminal behavior and is proven, will you support Trump for doing it?

Yes or No. No other answer will be accepted.
 
beefheart said:
Simple question: If it is determined that Trump has engaged in criminal behavior and is proven, will you support Trump for doing it?

Yes or No. No other answer will be accepted.
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No. Are you referring to while in office?
 
Renae said:
A Progressive didn't like something Trump did, the media fawns, the TDS'ers feel vindicated...


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LOL That is the best you got? How is Obama stating the obvious anything like Trump siding with Putin over our own intelligence agencies in Helsinki?

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Renae said:
A Progressive didn't like something Trump did, the media fawns, the TDS'ers feel vindicated...


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Here's why nothing happened to Obama after this came out...

First, he is referring to an upcoming lame duck presidency where the political ramifications really don't apply to the president anymore. He was speaking a well-known political truth.

Second, he promised nothing to anybody other than being able to do more in negotiations because of the first point.

Third, his comment had nothing to do with a current investigation into his administration that involved the Russians...any investigation for that matter.

So, yeah, this video is a nothingburger. Show what, if anything, in this video, that was illegal.
 
marke said:
Lookit! Another democrat sourceless slander of President Trump by the lying left in their zeal to bring Trump down with lies heaped on top of lies. Shame on them. They make themselves enemies of America by rejecting the elected government and laws of America.
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A) It's not sourcesless. The fact that WE don't know the source is the purpose of being a whistleblower.
B) This isn't Democrats. It's the national intelligence investigator general, who ruled this source credible.
 
Jason Warfield said:
Here's why nothing happened to Obama after this came out...

First, he is referring to an upcoming lame duck presidency where the political ramifications really don't apply to the president anymore. He was speaking a well-known political truth.

Second, he promised nothing to anybody other than being able to do more in negotiations because of the first point.

Third, his comment had nothing to do with a current investigation into his administration that involved the Russians...any investigation for that matter.

So, yeah, this video is a nothingburger. Show what, if anything, in this video, that was illegal.
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All that is well and good but what led up to Obama saying that? Did he ever say?
 
Update: Giuliani just had a full meltdown against Cuomo on this topic. What little remained of his reputation and credibility, which was practically zero, is now in the negative territory. I have never seen someone melt down so badly on live TV. Trump must be terrified of this situation, which is manifested as Giuliani losing his grapenuts. So much for the Hero of 9/11.
 
MTAtech said:
Whistleblower complaint about President Trump involves Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the matter

My guess is that Trump promised the Ukraine $250 million in military aide if his government prosecuted Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son. According to the above article, President Trump and his personal attorney appear to have increased pressure on the Ukrainian government and its justice system in service of President Trump’s reelection campaign.
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That's a pretty good guess
 
Chomsky said:
Say. That's an excellent argument that never occurred to me.
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Well, did he carry her by the *****?

I think that would he at least a misdemeanor if not a full fledged high crime.
 
It seems that 45 and the AG are saying that this POTUS can't be investigated for criminality and what could be charged as high crimes and misdemeanors in an subsequent impeachment proceeding?
 
Dans La Lune said:
Update: Giuliani just had a full meltdown against Cuomo on this topic. What little remained of his reputation and credibility, which was practically zero, is now in the negative territory. I have never seen someone melt down so badly on live TV. Trump must be terrified of this situation, which is manifested as Giuliani losing his grapenuts. So much for the Hero of 9/11.
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Guiliani is emblematic of all the Trump cult, completely without ethics, willing to do or say anything to save his messiah. What an unctuous little maggot.
 
Video in link.

A whistleblower complaint dubbed a matter of "urgent concern" by the intelligence community’s inspector general may involve a communication between President Trump and a foreign leader, according to reports. Now, a standoff is ensuing between the White House and Congress over access to the details. California Rep. Adam Schiff, chair of the House Intelligence Committee, joins Amna Nawaz to discuss.
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Until whistleblower complaint is revealed, ‘we’re at risk,’ says Rep. Schiff | PBS NewsHour
 
tres borrachos said:
The fact that Atkinson considered the whistleblower's complaint to be credible and troubling means we should have absolutely NO choice but to investigate it. The fact that Trump and his corrupt people and his supporters think it should be ignored is even more troubling.
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No whistleblower has the right to spy on Trump's conversations with foreign leaders and then to form judgments about the conversations. INS clerks who think they should correct the president by leaking secret info to the leftist media and Trump haters in Congress are deluded dummasses who should be fired from their jobs for incompetence.
 
Cardinal said:
That stupid video again. A dollar says you’re completely unable to explain what’s wrong with what Obama said.
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You are onto something. A dollar says the whole scene in the stupid video was planned, rehearsed, staged and acted according to the democrat script intended to promote the lying democrat narrative designed to boost Obama's chances in the 2012 election.
 
Cardinal said:
I can only hope that the whistleblower has the courage to come forward publicly. Yes, I understand the enormous cost that would have to him or her. But the trump admin is 100% corrupt and the acting DNI isn’t going to hand over the complaint to the House.
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Deluded democrat cultist: 'All republicans are wicked, evil, corrupt, dirty and deplorable and all democrats are lovely, sweet, kind, wise, pure, clean and adorable. Whatever is done in support of the democrat party or its leadership is a good thing, whether illegal or not. Whatever is done to undermine republicans is good also, whether legal or not.
 
tres borrachos said:
I hope so too. But I really hope that Congress finds a way to investigate this without putting that person at risk. Congress has oversight, and if both the whistleblower and Atkinson said this is "credible and troubling" means that it has to be investigated.

Trump Fan Nation will continue with their idiotic whatabouts, attacking Schiff, and so on, not caring one little bit if in fact the President did something that is considered by at least 2 people now to be a national security threat.
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Trump did not say anything wrong in spite of this lying buffoon and his tribe of barbarian supporters and followers. Everything Trump says is heard by lots of people. This one jerk was not the only one who would have heard the conversation, and he has no fellow workers sharing his twisted interpretations of things. This whole story will last only until the facts come out and the democrats are once again put to shame for participating in the unjust smear campaign.
 
marke said:
Trump did not say anything wrong in spite of this lying buffoon and his tribe of barbarian supporters and followers. Everything Trump says is heard by lots of people. This one jerk was not the only one who would have heard the conversation, and he has no fellow workers sharing his twisted interpretations of things. This whole story will last only until the facts come out and the democrats are once again put to shame for participating in the unjust smear campaign.
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Do you think being a whistleblower is as easy as disagreeing with your boss and telling someone about it?
 
Dans La Lune said:
The Whistleblower suggests that Trump is a threat to national security because he made a promise to a foreign leader about a matter of 'urgent concern'. We will learn about this, and I don't expect the nature of the promise, and who the promise was made to, will benefit Trump.

Here's is Cenk's TYT commentary:




And from Talking Points Memo:

The Whistleblower Complaint Is About Trump | Talking Points Memo
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Fake News. Investigation reports showing Obama holdovers were conducting a criminal coup attempt will soon be released. This is the bad guys way to get out in front of them and distract.
 
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