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[W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

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Superfly said:
And the investigation? You have nothing to say about the investigation? You know - the one that the FBI “conducted,” but didn’t bother to question any witnesses who could have corroborated Ford’s story?
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This is where you were wrong.
they did interview all the witnesses that she gave.

none of them had any knowledge or could remember any party that she described.
so what is there to investigate?

she couldn't remember the time, the place, the house, or anything else.
she couldn't remember who was at the party or even who invited her to the party.

now her own lawyer said it was a hit job just to put an * by kavanaugh's name if
the abortion came up in court.

Blasey Ford Attorney Admits Abortion 'Motivated' Kavanaugh Accusations
 
This story didn't even last as long as the others in the endless stream of groundless scandal stories.
In this case, the damn story itself never had a chance thanks to the details themselves, however undisclosed they were originally.

Oh well. All is not lost.
At least the usual antagonists got it into the social consciousness regardless of its inherent flaws and it gave something else for the Party to talk about during the election season.
That was the purpose after all, wasn't it?
 
trixare4kids said:
They can try all they want, but as with all other tries of theirs, this is another losing proposition for them; another ****show, another day.
As usual, they have nothing other than they want their guy on the supreme court instead of Kavanaugh.
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They are latching onto nothing but hearsay. It's really pathetic.
 
VanceMack said:
Its always been rather amazing that the woman can get the who, what, when, where, how, and every detail about the incident wrong on numerous occasions, have the instance rebutted by everyone she say was in attendance including the woman...and yet leftists are just full on convinced that it was the TRUTH by golly!!!
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Women (who accuse Republicans) MUST be believed!!!!!!!!

:donkeyfla
 
SheWolf said:
Absurd. If there were nothing abnormal about the gender make up of his clerks, it wouldn’t even a topic of discussion...
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Indeed. How DARE he hire women!!!!

It's TOTALLY sexist!!!!!

Just like if he hired men!!!!

He is a drunken sexist rapist!!!!

:donkeyfla
 
Integrityrespec said:
Someone wrote it out for them after Trump got elected.
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Alrighty then. I suggest we do an investigation to discover who that "someone" is and then impeach his ***.
 
SDET said:
I have seen that kind of logic used in the corporate setting when the goal is to "manage out" somebody. It's also known as being set up to fail or being put in a no-win situation.
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Personally, I don’t know what you’re talking or have personal experience with it. However, gender discrimination isn’t about protecting only women from discrimination.
 
trouble13 said:
I agree with you that he is practicing gender discrimination. Im not sure his reason why but that really does not matter. The fact is he only hires women.

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Agree
 
trixare4kids said:
I'm not interested in playing your word games.
I am still waiting for you to explain why you find it is weird for him to only hire females as his clerks?
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Why do I have to explain my opinions to you? You have been accusing me of speculating. It looks like you’re the person trying to play games.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Only pansy libs care about integrity on the Supreme Court. That's why loser libs lose, El Oh El.
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unfounded claims going back decades are worthless in light of a rock solid resume and years of sterling service.
 
SheWolf said:
Why do I have to explain my opinions to you? You have been accusing me of speculating. It looks like you’re the person trying to play games.
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SheWolf, I likewise was puzzled by your choice of words. I'll grant you that you were just expressing your opinion but could you please clarify what you meant by it being "weird"? Enquiring minds want to know.
 
SheWolf said:
It was politically motivated on the left and right, but the right refused to preform an actual investigation. She still stands by her actual story.
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Actual investigation:

One that gives Democrats what they want.

:donkeyfla
 
Cardinal said:
I would like to see a real FBI investigation done this time instead of the fake one that the Trump administration lied about taking place.

Remember: if Trump felt that an investigation was important enough to fake, then it's an investigation that's important enough to actually happen.
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Real investigation = One that gives Democrats what they want
 
Superfly said:
Did you sexually assault several people, Moot? Because this goes farther than puking on the teacher's shoes at the dance, or urinating on the away team's goalpost.

This is serious, and the victims carry with them the affects of this for the rest of their lives.
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Not that I recall.

Drunken lewd behavior in public seemed to be more acceptable back then. Just look at the kind of teen movies that were out then: Porky's, Revenge of the Nerds, Risky Business, Private School, Spring Break, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, etc. They made that kind of behavior seem "normal." Don't forget, some of the teachers at Kavanaugh's school were enablers or turned a blind eye. So who was Kavanaugh's roll model? Who was there to tell him that he had a drinking problem and his behavior was unacceptable? Apparently, no one.

But unlike Clarence Thomas, Kavanaugh didn't seem to carry that behavior into adulthood or to the workplace. Or at least no one has come forward to suggest that he has.
 
vesper said:
Kavanaugh has had 5 extensive FBI background checks throughout his career for the many positions he served. Nothing came up when he worked in the WH nor when he was appointed to Circuit Judge of Court of Appeals .

Strange this new allegation comes up after Blasey Ford's attorney was caught on tape pretty much making statements that amount to perjury. You want to talk FBI investigations? My bet is the FBI is certainly looking into Ford's attorney over her statements about Kavanaugh and Blasey Ford's real intent.

Judge Napolitano: DOJ Could Investigate Christine Blasey Ford's Attorney For Kavanaugh Comments, Perjury | Video | RealClearPolitics

What is going on is character assassination because Kavanaugh is pro life, The leftists want an asterisk next to his name so Kavanaugh will always be seen with a cloud over his head one they created.

He is young and will be on the bench for many years. Go pound sand.
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You call FIVE FBI investigations actual FBI investigations???????

The FBI needed to investigate him!!!!!!!!

:donkeyfla
 
Moot said:
Not that I recall.

Drunken lewd behavior in public seemed to be more acceptable back then. Just look at the kind of teen movies that were out then: Porky's, Revenge of the Nerds, Risky Business, Private School, Spring Break, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, etc. They made that kind of behavior seem "normal." Don't forget, some of the teachers at Kavanaugh's school were enablers or turned a blind eye. So who was Kavanaugh's roll model? Who was there to tell him that he had a drinking problem and his behavior was unacceptable? Apparently, no one.

But unlike Clarence Thomas, Kavanaugh didn't seem to carry that behavior into adulthood or to the workplace. Or at least no one has come forward to suggest that he has.
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Lets run with your good argument. Lets suppose that when Kavanaugh was a college boy, age 19 or 20 or even 22, he got drunk, whipped out his junk at parties where apparently others were doing similar things. And despite that behavior, he manages a record that gets him into the top law school in the country, where he makes top grades and then manages to spend 11 years on the second most prestigious court in the USA, and not a single person-since the day he started law school until today, has ever suggested he did anything inappropriate.

Now if we use the anti kavanaugh crowd's reasoning, it means that no matter how someone turns their life around, they can never be forgiven for antics which weren't felony level offenses at the time when they were in college or HS.

And if we use that standard, why is Beta O'Rourke even being considered for president given his past?
 
Overitall said:
SheWolf, I likewise was puzzled by your choice of words. I'll grant you that you were just expressing your opinion but could you please clarify what you meant by it being "weird"? Enquiring minds want to know.
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It’s not normal. What is there to debate?
 
SheWolf said:
It’s not normal. What is there to debate?
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No debate. Just a pursuit of understanding what is meant. I guess we could consider what you mean by normal but, I'm satisfied.
 
bomberfox said:
Clinton lost get over it. He got impeached over a blow job. This is only fair.
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No he didn't. Get over that.

He was impeached for lying to federal investigators, just like General Flynn. In addition he was impeached for lying under oath, witness tampering, subborning perjury and use of office to impede an investigation. It wasn't the blow job; it was the cover up.
 
SheWolf said:


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Yep, that's exactly what I was talking about earlier in this thread; it's the "GOP Fix Is In" on steroids that appalled me, because future administrations and legislators are watching this crap actually work, will continue along this path for their own side, and literally destroy our government altogether.

Talk of impeaching Kavanaugh at this point is ludicrous; there's no hard evidence. There is, however, evidence that he lied at both of his judicial confirmation hearings, and two individuals who professed to have that evidence were shunted aside and the FBI never followed up on the allegations.

I want to know exactly what the FBI was and was not allowed to investigate regarding both of Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings, and who, if anyone, gave them orders to stonewall and ignore allegations of perjury against him. That is what needs to be done now because it will take months and/or years for congressional investigations to get to the bottom of this, and they have quite enough on their plate at the moment.

As for the Dems, they've got an election to win, which will be difficult enough while they are so divided on impeaching Trump (not impossible, but stupid since he'd be acquitted by the senate) and will only make Democratic candidates more vulnerable during the 2020 election.

That's my take on this mess, FWIW.
 
TurtleDude said:
Lets run with your good argument. Lets suppose that when Kavanaugh was a college boy, age 19 or 20 or even 22, he got drunk, whipped out his junk at parties where apparently others were doing similar things. And despite that behavior, he manages a record that gets him into the top law school in the country, where he makes top grades and then manages to spend 11 years on the second most prestigious court in the USA, and not a single person-since the day he started law school until today, has ever suggested he did anything inappropriate.

Now if we use the anti kavanaugh crowd's reasoning, it means that no matter how someone turns their life around, they can never be forgiven for antics which weren't felony level offenses at the time when they were in college or HS.

And if we use that standard, why is Beta O'Rourke even being considered for president given his past?
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Because Beto owned up to what he did and was honest about it from the get go. But then no is accusing him of sexual assault or doing harm to others...and he's not getting appointed to a life long position that could effect all of us. I think there should be more scrutiny for judges than elected officials that can be removed from office. So I'm not sure it's a fair comparison.

I wonder if Kavanaugh had owned up to his behavior and apologized if it would've become the big controversy that it did. But in a way, maybe it's a good thing he didn't or there might not be the #MeToo movement and reckoning against sexual predators and harassers.
 
Moot said:
Because Beto owned up to what he did and was honest about it from the get go. But then no is accusing him of sexual assault or doing harm to others...and he's not getting appointed to a life long position that could effect all of us. I think there should be more scrutiny for judges than elected officials that can be removed from office. So I'm not sure it's a fair comparison.

I wonder if Kavanaugh had owned up to his behavior and apologized if it would've become the big controversy that it did. But in a way, maybe it's a good thing he didn't or there might not be the #MeToo movement and reckoning against sexual predators and harassers.
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that assumes, without proper factual support, he did the stuff partisan hacks claimed he did. the latest story teller is a hard core democrat part operative.

to me-no charges + decades of a perfect record=no grounds to oppose his nomination

NOW, if there were a slew of allegations while he was a judge of harassing or abusive behavior, that would be grounds to hold up or terminate his nomination
 
TurtleDude said:
that isn't exactly what you call a strong legacy connection and that doesn't do a thing to help at Yale Law School. I only know of one guy who (and he missed Magna by one A and had a 800 LSAT) who got any help and his uncle was the DEAN of the Yale Law School (and he got into Stanford, and Chicago and Harvard as well-with no connections)

IIRC Kavanaugh was at worst-3rd in his class at a prestigious highly regarded prep school. Guess what-third at a School like GT prep is going to get you into Yale most of the time without any connections.
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He was still a legacy student. No doubt that lots of people with better grades than Kavanaugh didn't get into Yale because they didn't come from money with connections like he did.

"...Although legacy admittance is frowned on by some, elite universities such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton and many others, have long given preference to students whose family members have attended.

According to a 2011 report in The New York Times , Yale said that 20 to 25 percent of its students were classified as legacy students. A CNBC report from 2017 said that students attending Yale's close rival, Harvard, were three times more likely to get accepted if they had a close family member who had attended.

While none of this necessarily means that Kavanaugh got into Yale unfairly, or that he did not have the required qualifications to attend or succeed, his statement about lacking "connections" is untrue. It's unclear why the Supreme Court nominee would feel the need to make such a false statement..."

Kavanaugh Said He Had 'No Connections' to Yale. He Was, in Fact, a Legacy Student​
 
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