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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Other than some seething hate for the GOP, why was supporting Kavanaugh "blind" given how disgusting the efforts to undermine him were, combined with the obvious perjury that the creepy porn lawyer cooked up?
    Because you and the rest didn't care at all if he was innocent or guilty. You all nitpicked your way through the half-assed investigation to legitimize your partisan position; and your pre-determined support was based only on partisan politics. You chose to see Ford as a liar from the beginning, no matter what. It's the same reason people can put their heads straight up Trump's ass and call it fresh air. "Blind" support, no matter the cost.

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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Because you and the rest didn't care at all if he was innocent or guilty. You all nitpicked your way through the half-assed investigation to legitimize your partisan position; and your pre-determined support was based only on partisan politics. You chose to see Ford as a liar from the beginning, no matter what. It's the same reason people can put their heads straight up Trump's ass and call it fresh air. "Blind" support, no matter the cost.
    you're wrong, people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. On one side, we had six FBI background checks, 11 years as a well respected judge, and not a single allegation in the last 30 years of any malfeasance. On the other side, we have venal political operatives, dragging up claims that were 35 years old, were unsupported by credible evidence and in some cases, were obvious perjury. When Two door claimed people witnessed her groping and they all deny even being at a party with her, it was easy to see her as either delusional, mentally ill or a liar.
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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

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    sell books? he's a hard core democrat party activist, who apparently was on the opposite side of the clinton impeachment debacle that Kavanaugh was also involved in.
    He could have sold books last year. And if you are trying to argue that this is about his being a hard core democrat Party activist, last year would have been the time. The two are obviously not connected.

    Either way, he lacks integrity.

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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    He could have sold books last year. And if you are trying to argue that this is about his being a hard core democrat Party activist, last year would have been the time. The two are obviously not connected.

    Either way, he lacks integrity.
    I certainly don't disagree with you on that point-the guy who just came forward is clearly dishonest
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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

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    Huh, that is a pretty big update there, NYT....

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    Thats how the game is played. Put out the smear and poison oeoples minds than quietly insert a correction that most will never read so they can claim it wasnt fake news just an editorial mistake that they corrected as soon as they realized the error. Funny how these damaging mistakes happen perdominiately to republicans. Hey bu dont concern yourself with that, its all very innoncent

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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Kavanaugh was a legacy student. If I recall, he graduated from Yale with a BA cum lade in history. So 40% of history students got A's, huh?

    If the FBI had been allowed to do their job and properly investigate Ford's allegations, it's unlikely that we would need to keep revisiting the issue.
    Theres a strong possibly that if the fbi thoroughly investigated her claims she would be in prison. She should be grateful that the fbi didnt do thier job

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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you're wrong, people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. On one side, we had six FBI background checks, 11 years as a well respected judge, and not a single allegation in the last 30 years of any malfeasance. On the other side, we have venal political operatives, dragging up claims that were 35 years old, were unsupported by credible evidence and in some cases, were obvious perjury. When Two door claimed people witnessed her groping and they all deny even being at a party with her, it was easy to see her as either delusional, mentally ill or a liar.
    On one side, we had a rush job to shove the accusation aside in order to avoid an actual investigation and to hasten the appointment for the political win. This was blind support.

    Everything else you mentioned has nothing to do with it. FBI checks are general in nature and most people do nothing wrong after having done something wrong long ago. Unless the FBI knew to look for something specific, their job applicant or security clearance checks were as routine for Kavanaugh as they are for everybody else. What mattered last year was the investigation that wasn't allowed to happen; and you people used the DNC's botching of what little time they were allowed to have in order to argue a legitimate show of protest.

    It was easy to see Ford as those things, because you wanted one of them to be true. Worse, you really didn't care if they were true because you all wanted to see him appointed before a proper investigation might find him guilty. This is exactly why the GOP rammed him through after circumventing the normal vetting process for Supreme Court nominees. It was yet another exercise in political court-packing.
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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

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    Theres a strong possibly that if the fbi thoroughly investigated her claims she would be in prison. She should be grateful that the fbi didnt do thier job

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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

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    Theres a strong possibly that if the fbi thoroughly investigated her claims she would be in prison. She should be grateful that the fbi didnt do thier job

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    This is not strongly possible at all. Ford was an academic and a career professor who put her entire reputation on the line over this. Someone like her does not throw her life away over partisan stupidity. Go find a Wal-Mart employee or a burger flipper for that nonsense.

    Had the FBI been allowed to properly investigate instead of being pushed aside so that the GOP could ram Kavanaugh through the process before something might be discovered, it is very doubtful that Ford would have been charged with anything. And if the GOP was so sure about Kavanaugh, why not counter Fords lie detector test with one of his own? Translation, Kavanaugh was not a good boy in college and his results would have been all over the place.
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    Re: [W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    they could not compel him to testify. SHE NEVER SAID ANYONE ELSE WAS THERE

    so how could they support her story. It would be hearsay. The best they could do is support her claims that she didn't make this up a couple years ago.

    How would the FBI find the house? She didn't know where it was, who owned it, or who in the group she mentioned lived there. And since all the people she claimed were there, denied it, what was the FBI going to do-canvas 30,000 homes within a 30 mile area of where Two Door Lived and asking them-Hey do you remember a party 35-37 years ago where someone might have groped some girl?
    I'm pretty sure she said about four or five other people were in the house. I also think the yearbook and Mark Judges book lends a lot of credence to her story.

    The FBI could find the house by simply asking other students where Kavanaugh and his buddies liked to party. It sounded like it was a party house with no adult supervision. It probably wasn't that far from where Ford was living since she was able to walk home. I think they could at least narrow it down to the neighborhood if not the exact house...assuming it still exists.
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