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StemExpress CEO admits selling beating baby hearts, intact baby heads in Daleiden hearing

jimbo said:
I'll second that. Reading through this article posted by an obviously biased anti abortion site, there seems to be nothing to support the beating heart claim in their headline. Article states heart tissue. Nothing more.

Somebody needs to explain how you can stick a heart in a box, ship it somewhere, and have it beating upon arrival at its destination.
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Zombie baby.
 
What if...? said:
Zombie baby.
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spud_meister said:
Would you prefer baby heads be sold by the quarter?
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No. The baby heads have to be intact otherwise The Dark Lord won't accept the Democrat's daily baby sacrifice.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, clearly.
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My goodness, that would be really ridiculous to lie about court testimony when the facts will ultimately come out, wouldn't it?
 
nota bene said:
My goodness, that would be really ridiculous to lie about court testimony when the facts will ultimately come out, wouldn't it?
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A source like this doesn't worry about such things, nor does it need to. The whole point is to reinforce what those people already believe, not provide facts.
 
Deuce said:
A source like this doesn't worry about such things, nor does it need to. The whole point is to reinforce what those people already believe, not provide facts.
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I don't think this is their point at all. Facts matter.
 
nota bene said:
I don't think this is their point at all. Facts matter.
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Facts don't matter to the people who run a website like this, no. Their goal is to manipulate in service of an ideology, not inform people. Notice the discrepancy between "supplies" and "sells" even found in just the OP.

Every single case to date of "they're selling baby parts!" has turned out to be "they are compensated for the costs of preparation, storage, and transport." See, you can't just stick organic tissue meant for research in a UPS box.
 
jimbo said:
That part is true. I didn't purport anything. I copied and pasted from the OP. Beating heart and heart tissue are two different substances.

Back to opinion. Mine. I don't think it's likely that beating hearts are being shipped. If they are, how?
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These are apparently called "intact cases," and what this means is an entire intact fetus. No idea what the logistics would require.
 
jimbo said:
I'll second that. Reading through this article posted by an obviously biased anti abortion site, there seems to be nothing to support the beating heart claim in their headline. Article states heart tissue. Nothing more.

Somebody needs to explain how you can stick a heart in a box, ship it somewhere, and have it beating upon arrival at its destination.
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Electricity.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
He really is that desperate.
Attention seeking behavior, that's what Zimmer threads are, it's what they are all about.
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Only to you and them chestnut sized organ between your ears.

You did read the article.

You like the idea of selling baby parts? Doesn’t offend you?

You like the idea of Mengele Ethics in medicine? Of course you do.
 
zimmer said:
Only to you and them chestnut sized organ between your ears.

You did read the article.

You like the idea of selling baby parts? Doesn’t offend you?

You like the idea of Mengele Ethics in medicine? Of course you do.
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How else would I make profit for my delicious BBQ baby ribs?
 
zimmer said:
Only to you and them chestnut sized organ between your ears.

You did read the article.

You like the idea of selling baby parts? Doesn’t offend you?

You like the idea of Mengele Ethics in medicine? Of course you do.
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Did you catch the switch from “selling” to “supplying?”
 
nota bene said:
So do you think LifeSite was lying about what was testified to in court?
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Look how desperate you are to believe their hyped and untrue garbage.
 
SMTA said:
Look how desperate you are to believe their hyped and untrue garbage.
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And look how obvious what you’re trying to do is. You’re quoting a legit question I asked of someone else. None of my six posts is “desperate.” In only one do I even express an opinion.

Unlike you, SMTA, I’m interested enough in the topic to have searched for unbiased sources reporting on the Daleiden and Merritt hearing. Perhaps you can produce one…or explain why the hearing is not being reported on by the MSM.

Or perhaps you can refine my Google search: daleiden and merritt hearing - Google Search
 
nota bene said:
And look how obvious what you’re trying to do is. You’re quoting a legit question I asked of someone else. None of my six posts is “desperate.” In only one do I even express an opinion.

Unlike you, SMTA, I’m interested enough in the topic to have searched for unbiased sources reporting on the Daleiden and Merritt hearing. Perhaps you can produce one…or explain why the hearing is not being reported on by the MSM.

Or perhaps you can refine my Google search: daleiden and merritt hearing - Google Search
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You are guilty of incorrect assumptions in your zeal to crucify me.
I researched them and found enough varied information to confirm that their information and presentation was heavily slanted and targeted for ultra-right targets, and of questionable validity.
That is called garbage where I come from.
Your desperation to disparage me has failed.
 
SMTA said:
You are guilty of incorrect assumptions in your zeal to crucify me.
I researched them and found enough varied information to confirm that their information and presentation was heavily slanted and targeted for ultra-right targets, and of questionable validity.
That is called garbage where I come from.
Your desperation to disparage me has failed.
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Crucify you? Wow.

I admire your diligent research that has discovered "varied information." Thanks so much for sharing what you ferreted out with the rest of us posting on this thread.
 
jimbo said:
According to the posted article, here's what was said in court regarding the heart issue:

"Does StemExpress supply fetal hearts to Stanford?” he asked Doe 12.

She hesitated to answer because, she said, “there’s so much targeting of researchers.”

However, Judge Christopher Hite told her the question was relevant.

“Yes, we have provided heart tissue to Stanford,” Doe 12 said.
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Is there any question that fetal tissue was supplied by donation through Planned Parenthood and Stem Express? Is this even a question?
The question is whether the supply was sold for the intent of direct profit or they were donated and Planned Parenthood recouped costs associated with donation.

So what is the relevance of the question.
 
I am still trying to figure out the headline. How do you sell a "beating heart".

If you want to wonder why Life Site News and their sources are not believed and even laughed at....start there.

Now, could it be possible to restart the heart? Sure, we see that in cardiac transplant and open heart surgery.
 
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nota bene said:
Crucify you? Wow.

I admire your diligent research that has discovered "varied information." Thanks so much for sharing what you ferreted out with the rest of us posting on this thread.
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You talk down to me the way you do, and you will always be addressed in kind.
You reap what you sow.
 
zimmer said:
Because they love the children.
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Zimmer, read the title of your article.

Now tell me how they supply still beating hearts to another facility.

Now tell me you still think Life Site News is worth anybody's time as a reliable source.
 
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