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Biden mistakenly says he was VP during 2018 Parkland shooting

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Cardinal said:
So what? Trump just gave a thumbs up in a photo op with a baby whose parents were murdered while shielding it from a White Nationalist terrorist's bullets.

A little perspective is in order.
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Sure.

Problem is the public expects nothing of Trump, and something of Biden.

Biden is not the Teflon Don.
 
aociswundumho said:
She set herself up for that by lying about her ethnicity in order to further her career. Trump will certainly capitalize on her mendacity.
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Nope, he shot that wad prematurely and that has no power anymore.
Liz showing her test results is the equivalent of a college football team losing the first game of the season.
Season has just begun, son. ;)

If that's all Trump can muster, he might as well just sit and call her a poopy-head.
 
Surrealistik said:
Sure.

Problem is the public expects nothing of Trump, and something of Biden.

Biden is not the Teflon Don.
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Yes, I know that there's no bar for trump. What's your point?
 
Cardinal said:
Yes, I know that there's no bar for trump. What's your point?
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That trying to lean into or deflect to Trump's indiscretions is not at all an effective counter or means of excusing Biden's. That these gaffes will actually stick to and plague Biden, and undermine his viability and electability.
 
Surrealistik said:
That trying to lean into or deflect to Trump's indiscretions is not at all an effective counter or means of excusing Biden's. That these gaffes will actually stick to and plague Biden, and undermine his viability and electability.
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Then better it happen now while there are still plenty of other candidates to choose from
 
Surrealistik said:
That trying to lean into or deflect to Trump's indiscretions is not at all an effective counter or means of excusing Biden's. That these gaffes will actually stick to and plague Biden, and undermine his viability and electability.
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Who's "excusing" Biden's gaffes? Not me. But it's a fact of reality that if he wins the Primary, then come November 2020, the nation will choose between Biden's gaffes and Trump's narcissism, lies, criminality and racism.

Nobody pulls the lever in a voting booth without mind paid to the alternative.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Then better it happen now while there are still plenty of other candidates to choose from
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Absolutely.

I think the sooner the party recognizes Biden as the liability he actually is, the better.
 
Cardinal said:
Who's "excusing" Biden's gaffes? Not me. But it's a fact of reality that if he wins the Primary, then come November 2020, the nation will choose between Biden's gaffes and Trump's narcissism, lies, criminality and racism.

Nobody pulls the lever in a voting booth without mind paid to the alternative.
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Ultimately I feel Biden is a dangerous liability for the general, and the longer this primary goes on, the worse he looks. The Obama halo and lack of public exposure has managed to mask this from most people thus far, but I don't think it's going to hold, and the sooner this is understood, the better.
 
zimmer said:
Join us at www.debatepolitics.com to enjoy The Daily Gaffe hosted by Comatose Joe Biden.

It seems Joe thinks he’s still VP.

How many gaffes is that? he had a 3-Fer in one setting, getting the cities wrong last week. I think he’s doing better than One a Day.

Join us tomorrow for another wild and whacky ride on the The Daily Gaffe hosted by Comatose Joe Biden... brought to you by Prevagin... and Depends.

Prevagin... helps you remember, and if you forget... as Comatose Joe so often does, Depends will be there to save the day!!!
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Right now Trump is still leading.
 
zimmer said:
It seems Joe thinks he’s still VP.

How many gaffes is that? he had a 3-Fer in one setting, getting the cities wrong last week. I think he’s doing better than One a Day.

Join us tomorrow for another wild and whacky ride on the The Daily Gaffe hosted by Comatose Joe Biden... brought to you by Prevagin... and Depends.
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Here is your Trump, the "stable genius", click on the arrow after you get through the first page of his ignorant and false comments.....to proceed page by page to page 13. Talk about a wacky ride, and this is from the sitting Ignoramus In Chief. :roll:

All False statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact
 
marke said:
Do you think it best not to suggest a former vice president may be suffering from mental illness? What about suggesting a sitting president is suffering from mental illness?

My dad had Alzheimers when he passed away. There are some indications I may have early stages of the disease myself. I don't care. I am going to get sick and die or just die some day anyway, and I don't care if people say it looks like I may be dying from one disease of another. Everyone should prepare to meet God because their time on earth is inescapably limited.
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For one, we don't know, we are only guessing. Secondly, why make the implication if for nothing else but political smearing.
Everyone, including Biden, deserves some dignity. My last point, anyone, left, right, in between, should just stop throwing about insults. They do it is no excuse.
 
zimmer said:
Join us at www.debatepolitics.com to enjoy The Daily Gaffe hosted by Comatose Joe Biden.

It seems Joe thinks he’s still VP.

How many gaffes is that? he had a 3-Fer in one setting, getting the cities wrong last week. I think he’s doing better than One a Day.

Join us tomorrow for another wild and whacky ride on the The Daily Gaffe hosted by Comatose Joe Biden... brought to you by Prevagin... and Depends.

Prevagin... helps you remember, and if you forget... as Comatose Joe so often does, Depends will be there to save the day!!!
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Whats noticeably absent is the media dog piling on him, questioning his mental fitness to be potus. Anyone wanns challenge that ifthese gaffes csme from Trump or any Republican for that matter that the medias portrayal would be much more hyperbolic than how they are reporting it?

This is where the media loses its credibility. When a conserative makes a gaffe they react like their hair is on fire. When a democrat makes one they report it in much more subdued manner.

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The media is doing the same thing it did in 2016: giving equal air time to Trump's behavior and the Democratic candidate's gaffes, thereby making them equal.

The self imposed need to appear "fair" in the media always works in the Republicans' favor, because no matter how abhorrently they act, the media will just present some silly thing about the Democrats in order to be "fair." The result of that "fairness" is that Trump is President, and they're doing the same thing that may very likely deliver a second Trump term.
 
aociswundumho said:
You guys underestimated Trump big-time in 2016. In 2020 he's got the incumbent advantage, much more political experience, a huge war chest (over 100 million already) and none of the Dem candidates (imo) will do better than Hillary did.
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Trump's pathway to victory currently looks rougher than a back road through the Andes. He is currently down by double digits in WI, MI and IA... and down by high single digits in PA, OH and AZ.

Tracking Trump: The President’s Standing Across America

He won in 2016 for a variety of reasons, including Russian wind at his back (which he likely to have again), but substantially because of a depressed Clinton vote (no one was excited about her).... with enough independents willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. The benefit is no more, however, as doubt has morphed into disapproval.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...wont-vote-trump-next-year-will-they-vote-all/

With a majority of Americans saying he is unfit for the job... Yes, Trump surprised us all in 2016, but as a consequence, substantially every national election since 2016 has gone against the Republicans, who were waxed in 2018.

The "anyone but Trump" vote is significant. Sorry, but his path to repeat is pretty rough.... and the impeding economic slowdown is going to result in a washed out bridge.

The question in 2020 will not be "will Trump lose?", as much as it will be "how bad will it be for Republicans?"
 
From your mouth to God's ear!

Cardinal said:
The media is doing the same thing it did in 2016: giving equal air time to Trump's behavior and the Democratic candidate's gaffes, thereby making them equal.

The self imposed need to appear "fair" in the media always works in the Republicans' favor, because no matter how abhorrently they act, the media will just present some silly thing about the Democrats in order to be "fair." The result of that "fairness" is that Trump is President, and they're doing the same thing that may very likely deliver a second Trump term.
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You overlook one important detail: While Trump may have a low approval rating, the Democrats can nominate someone with an even lower approval rating and lose.

upsideguy said:
Trump's pathway to victory currently looks rougher than a back road through the Andes. He is currently down by double digits in WI, MI and IA... and down by high single digits in PA, OH and AZ.

Tracking Trump: The President’s Standing Across America

He won in 2016 for a variety of reasons, including Russian wind at his back (which he likely to have again), but substantially because of a depressed Clinton vote (no one was excited about her).... with enough independents willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. The benefit is no more, however, as doubt has morphed into disapproval.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...wont-vote-trump-next-year-will-they-vote-all/

With a majority of Americans saying he is unfit for the job... Yes, Trump surprised us all in 2016, but as a consequence, substantially every national election since 2016 has gone against the Republicans, who were waxed in 2018.

The "anyone but Trump" vote is significant. Sorry, but his path to repeat is pretty rough.... and the impeding economic slowdown is going to result in a washed out bridge.

The question in 2020 will not be "will Trump lose?", as much as it will be "how bad will it be for Republicans?"
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Praxas said:
And trump thinks windmills cause cancer. Sorry I’ll take Biden over trump any day.
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Fortunately, I still have the opportunity to choose neither; plenty of intelligent, eloquent alternative candidates that are available.
 
Surrealistik said:
Fortunately, I still have the opportunity to choose neither; plenty of intelligent, eloquent alternative candidates that are available.
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I agree but if in the end it comes down to trump or Biden I’ll choose Biden.
 
Praxas said:
I agree but if in the end it comes down to trump or Biden I’ll choose Biden.
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Sure, but let us hope it doesn't; he screams liability. Trump can get away with this kind of stuff, and Biden can't; there is no real symmetry here.
 
upsideguy said:
Worrying about gaffes might have been the sport eight years ago, but now we are running against a man with no command of facts and blatant disregard for the truth. Add up all of Biden's gaffes, call that the numerator in comparison to Trump lies (the denominator) and you have fraction that approaches 'nil'.

In simpler terms, its fun to watch those that live in glass houses shooting rock salt out of their shotguns.
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This is a lot more fun.

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