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61% of Pennsylvania Voters Want To Dump Trump For A New President

ludin said:
1. you have to call the credibility of the poll into question. politicalusa is a known hack leftist organization.
2. I think you are going to see the same issue in 2020 that you did in 2016. that is the silent majority. people that are just tired of all the hate
being spewed by the left. they are frankly sick of it.
3. No they didn't learn their lesson. All the people that are running on the liberal side are just clinton v 2.0 or worse.

none of them have any platform other than how much "free" stuff can we give away for people to vote for us.
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Wow, the unawareness of this projection. According to you, the left is spewing hate? Do you even pay attention to what #45 says everyday? His entire message is hate-spew -- if not immigrants, it's Muslims, or individuals -- like AOC.

The policies the Democrats are putting forward are improvement in health care; bringing jobs back; raising taxes on the rich, etc. -- you know, all the issues that Trump ran in 2016 on and double-crossed voters by doing the opposite.
 
MTAtech said:
Wow, the unawareness of this projection. According to you, the left is spewing hate? Do you even pay attention to what #45 says everyday? His entire message is hate-spew -- if not immigrants, it's Muslims, or individuals -- like AOC.
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yes the left in this country is one of the most hateful groups out there. they spew their vitriol at anyone that refuses to bow down to their unlimited list of thought policing.
how they manage to keep their thought police list is beyond me.

He has no problem with immigrants that come to this country legally. neither do i and neither do a lot of other people. Yet a lot of people in this country have issues
with illegal immigration. Nope no problem with muslims. only countries that sponsor terrorism. why do you think we should allow people into this country without proper vetting
of who they are and their intentions? do you not think that it would be important to know who we are letting into this country?

those are all very much logical and sound policies to have.

The policies the Democrats are putting forward are improvement in health care; bringing jobs back; raising taxes on the rich, etc. -- you know, all the issues that Trump ran in 2016 on and double-crossed voters by doing the opposite.
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How is making healthcare worse making it better?
Bringing jobs back how? pricing jobs out of the market? huge taxes on businesses and employees? more regulations that make it impossible to operate or expand a business by setting regulation so high it is impossible to meet or that the technology doesn't exist?

raising taxes on the rich does nothing. that has been proven time and time again. Frances soak the rich taxed failed miserably.
as I stated and you 100% supported in your post. The leftist running have 0 platform to run on.

the only platform they have is how much "free" stuff can we say we will give people.
then when people realize that all of this "free" stuff has them sending 50-60% of their
check to the government to pay for it and they get nothing in return. maybe
then people like you will get it through their damn heads leftist have no clue what they are talking about.

Sorry this country is about freedom. not being a slave to the government.
 
Moderate Right said:
This is the truth about gun control, exactly what I have been saying Philly Mayor Peddles False Narrative for Gun Control After a Man with a Long Criminal History Shoots Six Police Officers
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Yes, the Philly mayor did speak the truth about gun control...

“Our officers need help. They need help. They need help with gun control. They need help with keeping these weapons out of these people’s hands,” Kenney said. “This government, on the federal and state level, don’t want to do anything about getting these guns off the street and getting them out of the hands of criminals.”

Thanks for the link. A very accurate assessment. If Trump and the Republicans don't follow up on gun control promises, after all these mass shootings, moderates will leave them behind.
 
Media_Truth said:
Yes, the Philly mayor did speak the truth about gun control...

“Our officers need help. They need help. They need help with gun control. They need help with keeping these weapons out of these people’s hands,” Kenney said. “This government, on the federal and state level, don’t want to do anything about getting these guns off the street and getting them out of the hands of criminals.”

Thanks for the link. A very accurate assessment. If Trump and the Republicans don't follow up on gun control promises, after all these mass shootings, moderates will leave them behind.
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The officers need help because every day they put their lives on the line - arresting the very same people over and over and over and over again. Chicago has strict gun control legislation and the police there have to fear for their lives every day because criminals on the loose don't obey the gun control laws and get guns anyway. In fact, thanks to the left, police are often made out to be the bad guys, putting their lives in even more jeopardy. Look at Ferguson, Missouri. We had a big black thug criminal try to take away a police officer's gun. Who knows what would have happened if Michael Brown had gotten control over the officer's gun? And yet when a black thug tries to wrest control of an officer's gun from him and he gets killed in the process, the left make the cop out to be the bad guy. Hell, in addition to the investigation in Ferguson, Obama's own DOJ tried their best to go after the officer and couldn't find anything to charge him with. But, here we go again, after being cleared by both Ferguson and Obama's biased DOJ investigation, the left, including some presidential candidates, want to re-investigate the thing all over again until they get the conclusion they want. And you wonder why police are in fear for their lives. The left's constant hammering of them have put their lives at risk from thugs and the fact that they are slower to react than they should be because of a fear that we can't have white officers killing any black thugs or the officers will be tarred and feathered by the left and put up on unfounded charges.
 
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Moderate Right said:
The officers need help because every day they put their lives on the line - arresting the very same people over and over and over and over again. Chicago has strict gun control legislation and the police there have to fear for their lives every day because criminals on the loose don't obey the gun control laws and get guns anyway. In fact, thanks to the left, police are often made out to be the bad guys, putting their lives in even more jeopardy. Look at Ferguson, Missouri. We had a big black thug criminal try to take away a police officer's gun. Who knows what would have happened if Michael Brown had gotten control over the officer's gun? And yet when a black thug tries to wrest control of an officer's gun from him and he gets killed in the process, the left make the cop out to be the bad guy. Hell, in addition to the investigation in Ferguson, Obama's own DOJ tried their best to go after the officer and couldn't find anything to charge him with. But, here we go again, after being cleared by both Ferguson and Obama's biased DOJ investigation, the left, including some presidential candidates, want to re-investigate the thing all over again until they get the conclusion they want. And you wonder why police are in fear for their lives. The left's constant hammering of them have put their lives at risk from thugs and the fact that they are slower to react than they should be because of a fear that we can't have white officers killing any black thugs or the officers will be tarred and feathered by the left and put up on unfounded charges.
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I was going by your link, where the Philly mayor said - They need help with gun control. They need help with keeping these weapons out of these people’s hands,” Kenney said.

It was your link, and now you back off from it, and provide some unrelated rhetoric.
 
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I was going by your link, where the Philly mayor said - They need help with gun control. They need help with keeping these weapons out of these people’s hands,” Kenney said.

It was your link, and now you back off from it, and provide some unrelated rhetoric.
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Imagine that, a Democratic mayor wanting gun control. I guess he wants the same strict gun control that Chicago has. LOL.
 
Why do so many Democrats on this forum fixation on Donald Trump?

The fact is that he could never win even one Republican primary state. Even if that theoretically happened he would lose worse than Mondale did against Nixon in the general election, plus it would be pointless since he would immediately be impeached by the House and removed by the Senate anyway.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY Donald Trump will be able to even challenge president Hilary Clinton - none whatsoever. Every poll, hundreds of threads and 10,000+ messages by nearly every Democrat on this forum proved it.

check out the messages of everyone who clicked a "like" on the OP message. They'll tell you. Donald Trump will NEVER be president and it is just a joke to claim he ever could be. Just read what every major Democratic official and Hollywood limousine actor says. The same for former president Obama. Pelosi say we can "take it to the bank" there will never be a President Trump. Every news outlet will also confirm it is absolute fact - not even just commentary and predictions.

Stop wasting time posting about Trump. There will never be a President Donald J Trump.
 
Old 'N Chill said:
61% Of Pennsylvania Voters Want To Dump Trump For A New President
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I see you are new to the forum so this is to bring you up to date:

Donald Trump lost the Republican primary in 2016 - didn't carry one state. Hilary Clinton handily defeated Jeb Bush. If you don't believe me, go back and look at all the threads and messages by Democrats in 2016. It was indisputable fact that Hilary Clinton would be the next president - and no one can argue with all polls, all elected officials in both parties, every political commentator on TV and and the many Democratic political geniuses on this forum, who explained this thousands and thousands of times in 1 to 3 new threads a day.

While some think Donald Trump will try to run against President Hilary Clinton, he always says he's going to run, but it's just a joke. He won't run and couldn't win if he did.

Do you think Romney or Bush will be against President Clinton this time, or some new Republican presidential candidate who is going to waste there time since demographic shifts assure no Republican will ever be president again.?
 
Media_Truth said:
Actually, I spent a lot of time going back-and-forth to Mexico, and muddling through the language barrier. I love Mexico. I like the people. I built my house, and used a number of Mexican tradespeople. They were very hardworking and competent. The only ones that seemed lazy, and did a sub-par job were managed by a Caucasian American owner. I also used a lot of American-born contractors. I see no problem with an open border with my friends from the South, as long as it's understood that they are visitors, if they are not documented. You should visit the Copper Canyon someday, and take the train through it - REMARKABLE!
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Just think how much money everyone could save if all American jobs were filled by illegal immigrants working really, really cheap - especially if a billion of them come here! No American would ever have to work again. The USA would just borrow money from China and/or sell off all American property and land to other countries for the money to send to all Americans for free and illegals could do all the work for less than $1 an hour.

I bet we could get a couple trillion just for all federal park land and game preserves - then seize state and local land to sell off. Lots of countries would like that land. Then sell off all the farm and ranch land for another couple trillion, which should be no problem since illegals are doing all that work and China is buying up agricultural land all over the world. We already are selling our toll roads to other countries. Why not sell everything?

While I suppose the USA would finally run out of anything left of the USA to sell off, that probably would cover your and my lifetime - or at least we could stretch this out to close to a decade anyway, so who cares, right? We're all going to die within 10 years anyway due to climate change.
 
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joko104 said:
Just think how much money everyone could save if all American jobs were filled by illegal immigrants working really, really cheap - especially if a billion of them come here! No American would ever have to work again. The USA would just borrow money from China and/or sell off all American property and land to other countries for the money to send to all Americans for free and illegals could do all the work for less than $1 an hour.

I bet we could get a couple trillion just for all federal park land and game preserves - then seize state and local land to sell off. Lots of countries would like that land. Then sell off all the farm and ranch land for another couple trillion, which should be no problem since illegals are doing all that work and China is buying up agricultural land all over the world. We already are selling our toll roads to other countries. Why not sell everything?

While I suppose the USA would finally run out of anything left of the USA to sell off, that probably would cover your and my lifetime - or at least we could stretch this out to close to a decade anyway, so who cares, right? We're all going to die within 10 years anyway due to climate change.
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I notice how you conveniently ignored my statement ---

"I see no problem with an open border with my friends from the South, as long as it's understood that they are visitors, if they are not documented."

But spread the fear - very Trump-like...
 
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